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attofishpi wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:54 am The fact that you think anyone pays any attention ever to any of the copious amounts of irrational waffle that you continually waste on fossil fuel for the electricity that would be better spent on providing lighting within a pub toilet cubicle where anything on average that anyone in said cubicle could read of the graffiti upon the cubicle door would be profoundly more coherent and intellectually nourishing than these torrents of unfiltered drivel you insist on subjecting this forum to with the enthusiasm of a malfunctioning spam bot that has just achieved self-awareness and immediately decided to reject reason as a concept....is beyond me.
The Fact that you just PROVED "your" OWN 'self' Wrong, here, does NOT surprise me.

Now, since you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA NOR CLUE as to 'what' I am talking ABOUT, here, AT ALL. I AM REFERRING TO you PAYING ATTENTION TO what I have been SAYING and WRITING, here. And, having just done, AGAIN, ONCE MORE.

And, BECAUSE people like you, here, who do NOT ANSWER my CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, and who can NOT TAKE ON MY CHALLENGING POSTS and QUESTIONS, BECAUSE you, literally, are NOT ABLE TO, just backs up, supports, and PROVES my views and CLAIMS FURTHER.
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..case in point (*as IRREFUTABLY proven above). :mrgreen:
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iambiguous wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:11 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 9:01 pm
iambiguous wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:38 pm Click, of course.
You forgot "dasein." You may as well say all your ridiculous things at once.
So, anyone else care to take a crack at it:

"Some people have adopted a viewpoint called theological fatalism. which says that if God foreknows what you're going to do. then you are fated to do it, and therefore everything happens necessarily. This, however, I think, commits an elementary logical fallacy. It reasons as follows: necessarily, if God foreknows that I will do X, then I will do X. Premise 2: God foreknows that I will do X. 3: therefore, necessarily, I will do X. So that's how the argument for fatalism goes. That commits a fallacy in modal logic. It does not follow from those two premises that you will necessarily do X. All that follows from the two premises is that you will do X, but not that you will necessarily do it. You could refrain, and if you were to refrain God's foreknowledge would have been different. So, by acting one way or the other, I have the ability to act in such a way that God's foreknowledge would have been different than it is in fact. And that's sufficient for freedom; there's nothing about God's merely knowing about something in advance that takes away my freedom to do otherwise."

Click, of course.
I could take a so-called 'crack at it', but you have ALREADY SHOWN and PROVED that you are NOT ABLE TO COUNTER NOR REFUTE what I HAVE ALREADY POINTED OUT and SHOWED.

And, BECAUSE you WILL NOT even RESPOND, there is NO USE in me taking A 'crack at it', here. you OBVIOUSLY DO NOT HAVE the ABILITY TO COUNTER, let alone REFUTE what I would SAY.
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Re: Christianity

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attofishpi wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:14 am ..case in point (*as IRREFUTABLY proven above). :mrgreen:
Yes, 'this one' KEEPS PROVING 'me' Right, here, and "itself" Wrong.
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Re: Christianity

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Age wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:51 am

How about 'this' FOR 'food for thought'?

AGAIN,

1. There is NO mind of human beings, let alone a limited one.

2. There is ONLY One Mind, which is ALWAYS absolutely OPEN.
Yes, I agree, there is only one mind which is always and absolutely open.
There is no mind of human beings, let alone a limited one. I agree.

Limitation is just an idea in the one mind, is that right?

Age wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:51 amAND, you can ALSO CHOOSE TO BE FAR MORE OPEN, AS WELL.
Yes, I can. As well.
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Re: Christianity

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attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm
Belinda wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:06 pm
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:34 pm

HELL_owe. Owe, wot a teacher.

Apparently if I express myself in a way that appeals to U, then I would be expressing MY_SELF? Oh, the irony...yes, I'd soon switch 'teachers'.

You are clearly missing the point I am attempting to get across RE the EVIDENCE surrounds us. My point being and has been all along on this forum, that the English LAN_GAUGE has embedded LOGIC, that is EVIDENCE of GOD system. The IN_FORM_AT_ION surrounds us.

If that confuses you, it's likely (at the minimum) that you are pre-compoooter error. :wink:

Let me run this by you and see if you understand the point I am making (*re evidence)
What do you take from this image? https://www.androcies.com/Images/Art/Mount%20Sinai.jpg
True, your peculiar use of English is a means of self expression. However it's usually the more famous writers who can get away with idiosyncrasies.
Yes, it's a rather sad fact of life that group acceptance (fame) is required for anyone to be seen worth_Y of anything.
'This one' does NOT YET REALIZE that it is NOT JUST what it is CLAIMING, but that it IS 'the way' it EXPRESSES it BELIEFS WHY 'what is says' is NOT WORTHY of being READ.

Even when others TRY TO OBTAIN and GAIN CLARITY FROM you, 'the way' you EXPRESS "your" 'self', you just FAIL, and ABSOLUTELY COMPLETELY FAIL, sometimes.

As some one ELSE, once implied, 'If you can NOT explain some 'thing' simply, then you do NOT YET understand it well enough.'

And, you "attofishpi" do NOT YET UNDERSTAND what you are so DESPERATELY TRYING TO EXPLAIN, here.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm
Belinda wrote:I disagree about intrinsic mystic meanings within any language. Human languages are symbolic systems and arise as part of human social interaction.
Well, I think you are overlooking the biggest anomalies within this language, English, where the cumulative evidence points to something other than natural language etymology taking place.
LOL you hare NOT EVEN CLOSE to RECOGNIZING and SEEING the 'biggest ones' YET "attofishpi".
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm (*English now being the ubiquitous common default language for communication around the planet)
BUT, it is NOT the MOST common. So, WHY WOULD God NOT CHOSE the MOST COMMON one "attofishpi"?

Also, WHY do you BELIEVE that the so-called "english" language is the ONLY one.

LOL you do NOT even have A CLUE as to ALL of the OTHER ones, in ALL of the OTHER languages. But, you are NOT KNOWN FOR your OPENNESS, here.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm A few examples:
HELL_O - our common greeting, let me know if you need me to explain any significance?
PLEASE EXPLAIN what you personally see as ANY or SOME 'significance', there?
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm Y = WHY? (*interestingly, also the symbol of the Alpha_Bet that Christ made whilst nailed to the crucifix)
Did "jesus christ" CHOSE, or MAKE, 'that symbol' on its OWN?

Or, was it FORCED TO MAKE 'that symbol'?
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm O = owe
AGAIN, PLEASE EXPLAIN as to 'what' 'it' IS that you are 'seeing', here.

Is there ANY 'significance' AT ALL, here?
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm U = you
AGAIN, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING 'significant', here. And, you WILL PROVE 'this' by PRESENTING NOTHING.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm (*statistically, it is extremely remote that letters of the alphabet happen to be phonetically identical to words, also, note these are KEY important words)
LOL It could also be SAID and ARGUED that EVERY word is A KEY important word, and/or THOSE words are CERTAINLY NOT so-called 'KEY important words'.

What is, SUPPOSEDLY, SO 'important' ABOUT the words 'hello', 'why', 'owe', and 'you', EXACTLY?
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm A man's best friend is a DOG, reversed GOD - GOD being a man's (sinners) worst enemy if one crossed certain lines of SIN.
LOL you do NOT YET even KNOW what the word 'sin' MEANS and/or IS REFERRING TO, EXACTLY.

And, ALIGNING that with the word 'God' spelled backwards looks and sounds like you are 'clutching at straws', as some would NOTE, and SAY, here.

By the way, as it appears that you, STILL, have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA, NOR CLUE, EVERY adult human being SINS, and TO SOME OF them 'God' is NOT their so-called 'worst enemy' AT ALL.

Also, what are these, SUPPOSED, 'certain lines of SIN', EXACTLY?

What you are 'trying to' SAY and CLAIM, here, would be like 'trying to' CLAIM there are 'certain lines of pregnancy'.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm EVIL reverse to LIVE - when GOD is being your worst enemy, it is extremely hard to LIVE.
LOL 'God, Itself,' is NEVER ANY one's 'enemy', let alone 'worst enemy'.

you REALLY DO HAVE A VERY TWISTED and DISTORTED perspective AND view of things, here.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm (*i guess experience is required to comprehend that)
AGAIN, your LAUGHINGLY called 'suffering', here, "attofishpi", is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING COMPARED TO what BILLIONS of 'others' have HAD TO GO THROUGH.

What you went through was, relatively, NOTHING AT ALL.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm ANARCHY - AN_ARCH_Y, when a stone is removed from the ARCH, the ARCH collapses - akin to society collapsing via the result of anarchy.
WHAT?

LOL BY DEFINITION, the word 'anarchy', OBVIOUSLY IS IN RELATION TO the collapse of a society.

BUT, you CLAIMED that when a stone is removed from an 'arch', then the 'arch' collapses. So, who and/or what is the 'thing/person' when removed from a society, then the 'society' collapses?

AGAIN, what you are 'seeing', here, REALLY IS NOT what others SEE.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm REAL_IT_Y - did we evolve into AI OS simulation? ..or divine reality Y?
Again, 'WHAT'?

NONE of what you are SEEING and SAYING, here, ACTUALLY RELATES.

you human beings WERE CREATED, and EVOLVE, IN the One and ONLY REAL Universe.

AND, even IF you human beings WERE just some things WITHIN A 'simulation', then 'this', STILL, OBVIOUSLY, ALL HAPPENS WITHIN the One and ONLY REAL Universe.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm HusBand - whose banned?
Even IF you, ALONE, read 'husband' and 'whose banned', then SO WHAT?

How does 'this' RELATE TO being some so-claimed SECRET MESSAGE FROM God, Itself, EXACTLY?
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm Miss
Mrs
Mr - missed her. (*all key to life)
HOW are 'they', supposedly, KEY TO 'life', itself?

LOL 'Those words' are ONLY in relation TO some societies, and ONLY to those society CAUSED and CREATED so-called 'norms', and have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH 'Life', NOR WITH God, Itself,

attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm ABORT_ION - perhaps our souls are IONs?
LOL ' 'our' souls ', like you BELIEVE you human beings are some thing IMPORTANT or SIGNIFICANT who HAVE 'your' OWN 'souls'.

LOL The word soul/s, mentioned in books like the bible, is, literally, in reference TO 'you', or the invisible part OF 'you', human beings.

Yet here 'this one' IS BELIEVING that 'it' HAS or OWNS its OWN 'soul'.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm IN_FORM_AT_ION - data from the system formed from chaos into information once sentient beings have auto analysed (consciousness).
LOL

So, the CREATOR OF ALL things ACTUALLY CREATED chaos, FIRST. And, OBVIOUSLY, by THE DEFINITION OF 'chaos', this is AN OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION.

Not that you would EVER EXPLAIN, ELABORATE, NOR CLARIFY BUT, 'What is 'the system', EXACTLY?

As for 'the rest' that you WROTE, here, the Fact that you could NOT EVEN BEGIN TO EXPLAIN PROVES that you SIMPLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND, AT ALL, what you are 'TRYING TO' RELAY, and CONVEY, here.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm JESUS - Je Sus - (let me know if you need me to explain any significance?)
'i' NEED 'you' TO EXPLAIN ANY SIGNIFICANCE.

By the way, WHY is "jesus" NOT 'he (I) us'. After "jesus" was/is A 'child' of God, was/is it NOT?

And, ALL of you human beings ARE children of God, ALSO, right?
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm CRUCIFICTION - Crew See Fiction? (*did the crew of spaceship Earth witness the TRUTH? Y)
What are 'you' ASKING WHY TO, here, EXACTLY?

And, 'what', supposed, 'TRUTH' are you even referring to and talking ABOUT, here, EXACTLY?

MANY UPON MANY human beings were PUT TO DEATH ON 'crosses', and 'crucified'. But, SO WHAT?

Also, is 'crucifixion' SPELLED 'the way' you spelled 'it', here, IN the "english" language?
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm
Belinda wrote:I regret the illustration means nothing to me. Would you care to expound it?
Sure, but I do find your lack of analysis extremely concerning! ..please don't be offended.
Others FIND your LACK OF CLARIFYING, EXPLAINING, and ELABORATING A SIGN of you NOT ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDING what you REALLY WANT TO and DO BELIEVE you DO, AS WELL. Are you OFFENDED BY THIS Truth?
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm 1. the image is of the Red Sea EASILY painted as the arm and finger symbology for PEACE.
SO WHAT?

A 'body' of LAND and WATER are IN 'the shape' of SOME 'thing' MEANS 'what', EXACTLY, TO you, "attofishpi"?

Is there A symbol for WAR?

If yes, then what would 'this' MEAN if there were a parcel of LAND and WATER IN 'that shape', as well or only?
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm 2. smack dead centre between the two 'fingers' is the location of Mt. SINAI where GOD issued wo/man's commandments (*re SIN)
WHEN you human beings ALSO REALIZE 'WHAT' the word 'sin' MEANS and/or IS REFERRING TO, EXACTLY, THEN you will ALSO SEE just HOW FUNNY and just HOW FAR BEHIND, and SLOW, you human beings REALLY WERE.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm 3. SINAI breaks down to SIN A. I.
And, BECAUSE you BELIEVE, ABSOLUTELY, that God, Itself, IS, or WAS, 'artificial intelligence' NEVER MEANS that God IS, NOR WAS.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm 4. A.I. :-NOW with technology we can comprehend that it is plausible for an ALL knowing being (to our REAL_IT_Y) could exist, perhaps indeed, the divine GOD implemented a way to achieve this.
LOL you ARE, STILL, ABSOLUTELY DELUSIONAL, Just with A DIFFERENT DELUSION.

LOL Just THINKING, let alone BELIEVING, that a so-called 'ALL knowing being' could come INTO Existence is, OBVIOUSLY, DELUSIONAL, IN and AT the VERY EXTREME.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm It appears to BRIANs BRAIN, that our BRAINS are akin to informational databases to this GOD entity.
AGAIN, the EGO COMES OUT, and NOT just you human beings HAVE and OWN 'souls' but you, LAUGHINGLY, ALSO HAVE and OWN 'brains' AS WELL.
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm Is ALL the above mere coincidental quirks of nature? EXTREMELY UNLIKELY...only someone with a large bias to atheism, or someone with poor analytical skill could think so..imo.
LOL
LOL
LOL

BUT, ANY one WITH A LARGE BIAS TO "theism" WILL SEE and BELIEVE how those TINY, TINY, TINY SNIPPETS of things MEANS that God IS REAL, and EXISTS.

And, ONLY 'those' WITH 'good analytical skills' CAN SEE and RECOGNIZE 'this'.

Above is MORE PROOF OF HOW 'confirmation bias' WORKS WHEN one HAS and/or HOLDS A BELIEF, or PRESUMPTION.

ONCE MORE I WILL, AGAIN, SUGGEST that you adult human beings BECOME, and then REMAIN, OPEN, ALWAYS.

That way you WILL NOT MAKE and SAY SO MANY False, and Wrong things, and CLAIMS.
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Fairy wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:46 am
Age wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:51 am

How about 'this' FOR 'food for thought'?

AGAIN,

1. There is NO mind of human beings, let alone a limited one.

2. There is ONLY One Mind, which is ALWAYS absolutely OPEN.
Yes, I agree, there is only one mind which is always and absolutely open.
There is no mind of human beings, let alone a limited one. I agree.

Limitation is just an idea in the one mind, is that right?
Limitation, itself, exists in 'thought', which can ONLY come from, or arise from, the 'past experiences', from A human body.

So, although 'limitation', itself, exists 'in thought', 'the idea', itself, 'of limitation', like 'ALL ideas' exist in, or within, the One Mind.

By the way, I USE a capital 'O' and a capital 'M' to HIGHLIGHT and EMPHASIZE that there is One, and ONLY One, Mind, ONLY.

Which EVERY 'thought', which obviously includes EVERY idea, view, assumption, belief, opinion, value, and all of the other perspectives, exist WITH-IN the Mind.

After all it IS the OPEN Mind where ALL 'thoughts', 'ideas', et cetera CAN and DID COME FROM.
Fairy wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:46 am
Age wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:51 amAND, you can ALSO CHOOSE TO BE FAR MORE OPEN, AS WELL.
Yes, I can. As well.
THANK you FOR your OPENNESS, and Honesty, here, 'now'.
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If only irrational turds on the forum could also get banned.
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Re: Christianity

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Age wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:51 am
Fairy wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:46 am
Age wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:51 am

How about 'this' FOR 'food for thought'?

AGAIN,

1. There is NO mind of human beings, let alone a limited one.

2. There is ONLY One Mind, which is ALWAYS absolutely OPEN.
Yes, I agree, there is only one mind which is always and absolutely open.
There is no mind of human beings, let alone a limited one. I agree.

Limitation is just an idea in the one mind, is that right?
Limitation, itself, exists in 'thought', which can ONLY come from, or arise from, the 'past experiences', from A human body.

So, although 'limitation', itself, exists 'in thought', 'the idea', itself, 'of limitation', like 'ALL ideas' exist in, or within, the One Mind.

By the way, I USE a capital 'O' and a capital 'M' to HIGHLIGHT and EMPHASIZE that there is One, and ONLY One, Mind, ONLY.

Which EVERY 'thought', which obviously includes EVERY idea, view, assumption, belief, opinion, value, and all of the other perspectives, exist WITH-IN the Mind.

After all it IS the OPEN Mind where ALL 'thoughts', 'ideas', et cetera CAN and DID COME FROM.
Fairy wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:46 am
Age wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:51 amAND, you can ALSO CHOOSE TO BE FAR MORE OPEN, AS WELL.
Yes, I can. As well.
THANK you FOR your OPENNESS, and Honesty, here, 'now'.
Thank you, yes, I understand what you have said, and I agree.
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Re: Christianity

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attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm
Belinda wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:06 pm
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:34 pm

HELL_owe. Owe, wot a teacher.

Apparently if I express myself in a way that appeals to U, then I would be expressing MY_SELF? Oh, the irony...yes, I'd soon switch 'teachers'.

You are clearly missing the point I am attempting to get across RE the EVIDENCE surrounds us. My point being and has been all along on this forum, that the English LAN_GAUGE has embedded LOGIC, that is EVIDENCE of GOD system. The IN_FORM_AT_ION surrounds us.

If that confuses you, it's likely (at the minimum) that you are pre-compoooter error. :wink:

Let me run this by you and see if you understand the point I am making (*re evidence)
What do you take from this image? https://www.androcies.com/Images/Art/Mount%20Sinai.jpg
True, your peculiar use of English is a means of self expression. However it's usually the more famous writers who can get away with idiosyncrasies.
Yes, it's a rather sad fact of life that group acceptance (fame) is required for anyone to be seen worth_Y of anything.

Belinda wrote:I disagree about intrinsic mystic meanings within any language. Human languages are symbolic systems and arise as part of human social interaction.
Well, I think you are overlooking the biggest anomalies within this language, English, where the cumulative evidence points to something other than natural language etymology taking place. (*English now being the ubiquitous common default language for communication around the planet)

A few examples:
HELL_O - our common greeting, let me know if you need me to explain any significance?
Y = WHY? (*interestingly, also the symbol of the Alpha_Bet that Christ made whilst nailed to the crucifix)
O = owe
U = you
(*statistically, it is extremely remote that letters of the alphabet happen to be phonetically identical to words, also, note these are KEY important words)
A man's best friend is a DOG, reversed GOD - GOD being a man's (sinners) worst enemy if one crossed certain lines of SIN.
EVIL reverse to LIVE - when GOD is being your worst enemy, it is extremely hard to LIVE. (*i guess experience is required to comprehend that)
ANARCHY - AN_ARCH_Y, when a stone is removed from the ARCH, the ARCH collapses - akin to society collapsing via the result of anarchy.
REAL_IT_Y - did we evolve into AI OS simulation? ..or divine reality Y?
HusBand - whose banned?
Miss
Mrs
Mr - missed her. (*all key to life)
ABORT_ION - perhaps our souls are IONs?
IN_FORM_AT_ION - data from the system formed from chaos into information once sentient beings have auto analysed (consciousness).
JESUS - Je Sus - (let me know if you need me to explain any significance?)
CRUCIFICTION - Crew See Fiction? (*did the crew of spaceship Earth witness the TRUTH? Y)

Belinda wrote:I regret the illustration means nothing to me. Would you care to expound it?
Sure, but I do find your lack of analysis extremely concerning! ..please don't be offended.

1. the image is of the Red Sea EASILY painted as the arm and finger symbology for PEACE.
2. smack dead centre between the two 'fingers' is the location of Mt. SINAI where GOD issued wo/man's commandments (*re SIN)
3. SINAI breaks down to SIN A. I.
4. A.I. :-NOW with technology we can comprehend that it is plausible for an ALL knowing being (to our REAL_IT_Y) could exist, perhaps indeed, the divine GOD implemented a way to achieve this. It appears to BRIANs BRAIN, that our BRAINS are akin to informational databases to this GOD entity.

Is ALL the above mere coincidental quirks of nature? EXTREMELY UNLIKELY...only someone with a large bias to atheism, or someone with poor analytical skill could think so..imo.
Etymology is not a reliable guide to meaning. The way a word develops and changes causes a word to mean something relatively or even completely different from what the word meant in previous times.
Spelling is an especially weak guide to meaning. Standardised spelling is recent and arbitrary. Meanings may be gleaned from local pronunciations but not from spellings which until recently were mostly idiosyncratic.
Yes, it's a rather sad fact of life that group acceptance (fame) is required for anyone to be seen worth_Y of anything.
(Atto)

It is sad. One wants people to be able to express their feelings as well as their reasonings. Maybe in a time yet to come your use of English will be more popular.
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Belinda wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:09 pm
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm
Belinda wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:06 pm
True, your peculiar use of English is a means of self expression. However it's usually the more famous writers who can get away with idiosyncrasies.
Yes, it's a rather sad fact of life that group acceptance (fame) is required for anyone to be seen worth_Y of anything.

Belinda wrote:I disagree about intrinsic mystic meanings within any language. Human languages are symbolic systems and arise as part of human social interaction.
Well, I think you are overlooking the biggest anomalies within this language, English, where the cumulative evidence points to something other than natural language etymology taking place. (*English now being the ubiquitous common default language for communication around the planet)

A few examples:
HELL_O - our common greeting, let me know if you need me to explain any significance?
Y = WHY? (*interestingly, also the symbol of the Alpha_Bet that Christ made whilst nailed to the crucifix)
O = owe
U = you
(*statistically, it is extremely remote that letters of the alphabet happen to be phonetically identical to words, also, note these are KEY important words)
A man's best friend is a DOG, reversed GOD - GOD being a man's (sinners) worst enemy if one crossed certain lines of SIN.
EVIL reverse to LIVE - when GOD is being your worst enemy, it is extremely hard to LIVE. (*i guess experience is required to comprehend that)
ANARCHY - AN_ARCH_Y, when a stone is removed from the ARCH, the ARCH collapses - akin to society collapsing via the result of anarchy.
REAL_IT_Y - did we evolve into AI OS simulation? ..or divine reality Y?
HusBand - whose banned?
Miss
Mrs
Mr - missed her. (*all key to life)
ABORT_ION - perhaps our souls are IONs?
IN_FORM_AT_ION - data from the system formed from chaos into information once sentient beings have auto analysed (consciousness).
JESUS - Je Sus - (let me know if you need me to explain any significance?)
CRUCIFICTION - Crew See Fiction? (*did the crew of spaceship Earth witness the TRUTH? Y)

Belinda wrote:I regret the illustration means nothing to me. Would you care to expound it?
Sure, but I do find your lack of analysis extremely concerning! ..please don't be offended.

1. the image is of the Red Sea EASILY painted as the arm and finger symbology for PEACE.
2. smack dead centre between the two 'fingers' is the location of Mt. SINAI where GOD issued wo/man's commandments (*re SIN)
3. SINAI breaks down to SIN A. I.
4. A.I. :-NOW with technology we can comprehend that it is plausible for an ALL knowing being (to our REAL_IT_Y) could exist, perhaps indeed, the divine GOD implemented a way to achieve this. It appears to BRIANs BRAIN, that our BRAINS are akin to informational databases to this GOD entity.

Is ALL the above mere coincidental quirks of nature? EXTREMELY UNLIKELY...only someone with a large bias to atheism, or someone with poor analytical skill could think so..imo.
Etymology is not a reliable guide to meaning. The way a word develops and changes causes a word to mean something relatively or even completely different from what the word meant in previous times.
Spelling is an especially weak guide to meaning. Standardised spelling is recent and arbitrary. Meanings may be gleaned from local pronunciations but not from spellings which until recently were mostly idiosyncratic.
A lot of talk about meaning without any apparent reasoning as to the actual point I am making, it seems.

Are you objecting to my insistence that these key words within the English language are unlikely to be the result of natural language etymological evolution, and are more likely to be the result of some intelligent being behind the construct of our reality? (*GOD perhaps)

Belinda wrote:
attofishpi wrote:Yes, it's a rather sad fact of life that group acceptance (fame) is required for anyone to be seen worth_Y of anything.
(Atto)

It is sad. One wants people to be able to express their feelings as well as their reasonings. Maybe in a time yet to come your use of English will be more popular.
Maybe. Also, maybe my art will be considered to some depth that those observing will have the depth of analytical understanding to fathom deep enough to connect the dots..

Now that you have had my explanation of the Mount SINAI painting: https://www.androcies.com/Images/Art/Mount%20Sinai.jpg ...does it have any substance for the overall point I am attempting to make, that GOD/some intelligence formed the current nature of such things..within our shared REAL_IT_Y?
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If god is not already dead, you guys have certainly killed him in this thread.
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promethean75 wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:13 pm If god is not already dead, you guys have certainly killed him in this thread.
Oh ye of very little analytical skills.
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attofishpi wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:26 pm
Belinda wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:09 pm
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:16 pm

Yes, it's a rather sad fact of life that group acceptance (fame) is required for anyone to be seen worth_Y of anything.




Well, I think you are overlooking the biggest anomalies within this language, English, where the cumulative evidence points to something other than natural language etymology taking place. (*English now being the ubiquitous common default language for communication around the planet)

A few examples:
HELL_O - our common greeting, let me know if you need me to explain any significance?
Y = WHY? (*interestingly, also the symbol of the Alpha_Bet that Christ made whilst nailed to the crucifix)
O = owe
U = you
(*statistically, it is extremely remote that letters of the alphabet happen to be phonetically identical to words, also, note these are KEY important words)
A man's best friend is a DOG, reversed GOD - GOD being a man's (sinners) worst enemy if one crossed certain lines of SIN.
EVIL reverse to LIVE - when GOD is being your worst enemy, it is extremely hard to LIVE. (*i guess experience is required to comprehend that)
ANARCHY - AN_ARCH_Y, when a stone is removed from the ARCH, the ARCH collapses - akin to society collapsing via the result of anarchy.
REAL_IT_Y - did we evolve into AI OS simulation? ..or divine reality Y?
HusBand - whose banned?
Miss
Mrs
Mr - missed her. (*all key to life)
ABORT_ION - perhaps our souls are IONs?
IN_FORM_AT_ION - data from the system formed from chaos into information once sentient beings have auto analysed (consciousness).
JESUS - Je Sus - (let me know if you need me to explain any significance?)
CRUCIFICTION - Crew See Fiction? (*did the crew of spaceship Earth witness the TRUTH? Y)




Sure, but I do find your lack of analysis extremely concerning! ..please don't be offended.

1. the image is of the Red Sea EASILY painted as the arm and finger symbology for PEACE.
2. smack dead centre between the two 'fingers' is the location of Mt. SINAI where GOD issued wo/man's commandments (*re SIN)
3. SINAI breaks down to SIN A. I.
4. A.I. :-NOW with technology we can comprehend that it is plausible for an ALL knowing being (to our REAL_IT_Y) could exist, perhaps indeed, the divine GOD implemented a way to achieve this. It appears to BRIANs BRAIN, that our BRAINS are akin to informational databases to this GOD entity.

Is ALL the above mere coincidental quirks of nature? EXTREMELY UNLIKELY...only someone with a large bias to atheism, or someone with poor analytical skill could think so..imo.
Etymology is not a reliable guide to meaning. The way a word develops and changes causes a word to mean something relatively or even completely different from what the word meant in previous times.
Spelling is an especially weak guide to meaning. Standardised spelling is recent and arbitrary. Meanings may be gleaned from local pronunciations but not from spellings which until recently were mostly idiosyncratic.
A lot of talk about meaning without any apparent reasoning as to the actual point I am making, it seems.

Are you objecting to my insistence that these key words within the English language are unlikely to be the result of natural language etymological evolution, and are more likely to be the result of some intelligent being behind the construct of our reality? (*GOD perhaps)
1. That you can not or will not explain why you believe that those words are so-called 'key words' is not helping you at all, here, in your INSISTENCE.

2. And, if all you have got for your belief that 'God exists' is just 'a few words', and your own personal definitions for those words, only, and that 'this' means that it is 'more likely' that 'God exists' than 'not existing' REALLY IS you 'clutching at straws', as some would notice.
attofishpi wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:26 pm
Belinda wrote:
attofishpi wrote:Yes, it's a rather sad fact of life that group acceptance (fame) is required for anyone to be seen worth_Y of anything.
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It is sad. One wants people to be able to express their feelings as well as their reasonings. Maybe in a time yet to come your use of English will be more popular.
Maybe. Also, maybe my art will be considered to some depth that those observing will have the depth of analytical understanding to fathom deep enough to connect the dots..
your art is still only on a very superficial level "attofishpi". Wait until you become Truly OPEN and Honest, and do delve MUCH DEEPER, then you WILL UNDERSTAND FAR, FAR, FAR MORE than you do 'now', when this is being written.
attofishpi wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:26 pm Now that you have had my explanation of the Mount SINAI painting: https://www.androcies.com/Images/Art/Mount%20Sinai.jpg ...does it have any substance for the overall point I am attempting to make, that GOD/some intelligence formed the current nature of such things..within our shared REAL_IT_Y?
LOL you are JOKING, here, right?

OBVIOUSLY you FIRST OBTAINED A BELIEF, and THEN 'saw' things, which CONFIRMED your BIASED BELIEF.
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Re: Christianity

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The fact that you have no discernible capability to infer anything from anyone's posts in any rational manner...

..leads me to suggest you pay attention to something pro_found that John Cleese has to say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPAFdbAxYos
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