Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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phyllo wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:51 pm Latest news : Trump gives Mexico a one month pause on tariffs until April.

The country which is the source of the overwhelming majority of drugs and migrants.

Anybody wanna try that border security argument again?
Sure. It's easy.

There's a wall between the US and Mexico now...or soon will be. That's going to put one heck of a cramp in the style of the cartels and migrants. But Canada has the largest undefended border in the world -- 5,500 miles of it -- and has, up to now, done almost nothing to stem the tide of alien migrants and drugs from that direction. It makes perfect sense.

Pause your Trump-hatred for a second, and consider the simple logistics. You'll see it's not even surprising.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:01 pm
phyllo wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:51 pm Latest news : Trump gives Mexico a one month pause on tariffs until April.

The country which is the source of the overwhelming majority of drugs and migrants.

Anybody wanna try that border security argument again?
It is all strategy, no? And power-politics.

What do you mean about border security?
There is more to life than 'power', politically and otherwise.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:58 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:41 pm That's correct, I'm bored stiff usually and I just come to a philosophy forum for a little entertainment. And discussing politics is not my interest at all even then, usually.

Politics is not my area, and yet for example how many of you Trump-fans knew what I said would probably happen, that Europe would probably wake up and try to establish a joint military, to oppose Russia? How many of you understand that Trump has NPD? etc. You don't. Then what do you know if politics is your area?
I am in no real sense a fan of Trump. But I am definitely no fan of the formerly reigning power- and culture-elite. And my hope is that— a gamble of course — that a new régime can change certain things, or possibly get things rolling in a different direction.

My interests are sociological and cultural. And a great deal of my own reading is in this area. Those are areas about which you likely care to know little.

If you knew more about why people’s ideas are changing, and what the intellectual sources of these shifts were, you might feel less psychological pain.

And as far as I am aware never once have you discussed things “philosophical”. You avoid saying anything much!

Personally, my larger interest is simply in understanding what is going on, and why.

That is when I have the free time. You know that I am a Tantric Sex instructor with a very busy schedule, right?
Imo once again you didn't say anything of substance. If you want to understand what is going on and why, first you might try to accept what is real and what is fantasy.
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But Canada has the largest undefended border in the world -- 5,500 miles of it -- and has, up to now, done almost nothing to stem the tide of alien migrants and drugs from that direction.
There is no "tide" to stem.
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Trump doesn't want to pay for Canadian oil/gas/electricity/minerals/timber etc., he wants to annex it. That's all there is to it imo.
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phyllo wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:19 pm
But Canada has the largest undefended border in the world -- 5,500 miles of it -- and has, up to now, done almost nothing to stem the tide of alien migrants and drugs from that direction.
There is no "tide" to stem.
There's no stemming the tide, because nobody's minding the store. It's so bad that they don't even have a real Prime Minister right now.
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phyllo wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:04 pm
I am in no real sense a fan of Trump. But I am definitely no fan of the formerly reigning power- and culture-elite. And my hope is that— a gamble of course — that a new régime can change certain things, or possibly get things rolling in a different direction.
It's already being pushed in a different direction ... friendship with Russia and attacks on its traditional friends and allies.

Is that a good direction? A desirable direction?
It was obvious years ago that Trump would make the situation even worse, that's not how to dismantle the Western establishment. AJ happily chose to ignore this fact.
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It's so bad that they don't even have a real Prime Minister right now.
Justin Trudeau is the prime minister of Canada.
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phyllo wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:36 pm
It's so bad that they don't even have a real Prime Minister right now.
Justin Trudeau is the prime minister of Canada.
He's a loathed fraud, who has literally achieved nothing good in his two terms, and has now both stepped down as leader (because of his sheer unpopularity) and has prorogued parliament, so nothing can get done. He's crippled Canada in the moment they most needed to negotiate, because all they've got is him -- and he's demonstrably useless. It would actually be better if they just propped up a broomstick in his seat, and reconvened parliament without him.
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Stop wasting our time.
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phyllo wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:44 pm Stop wasting our time.
Look into it. You'll find its absolutely the case.
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If this is IC not ranting about a public figure (he said he's above such things), what would it be like if he did rant?
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Atla wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:57 pm If this is IC not ranting about a public figure (he said he's above such things), what would it be like if he did rant?
Ironically, it's not a rant. You can check the facts for yourself. I welcome it.
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Atla wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:23 pm Trump doesn't want to pay for Canadian oil/gas/electricity/minerals/timber etc., he wants to annex it. That's all there is to it imo.
And since he will never, ever “annex” Canada, and Canada will not be “annexed”, your “opinion” is as thin as a (Canadian?) dime and will get you as much at Sobeys …

There must be another tree in such a large forest to bark up … 😜
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Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:14 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:57 pm If this is IC not ranting about a public figure (he said he's above such things), what would it be like if he did rant?
Ironically, it's not a rant. You can check the facts for yourself. I welcome it.
And you can check the facts about Trump :)
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