Nature of human beings

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Ayan Draxler
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Nature of human beings

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Human beings exist at the paradoxical intersection of determinism and free will, reason and irrationality, individuality and collectivity. We are creatures bound by biological imperatives yet capable of transcending them through abstract thought, driven by primal instincts yet yearning for higher meaning. Our consciousness is both a gift and a burden, granting us the ability to reflect on our existence while confronting the inevitability of suffering and death. We construct narratives to impose order on chaos, yet reality remains indifferent to our interpretations. In this tension—between what we are and what we seek to become—lies the essence of our nature: not fixed, but in perpetual self-creation, forever oscillating between the known and the infinite unknown.
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Ayan Draxler wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:51 pm Human beings exist at the paradoxical intersection of determinism and free will, reason and irrationality, individuality and collectivity.
What do you mean by 'paradoxical intersection', exactly?
Ayan Draxler wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:51 pm We are creatures bound by biological imperatives yet capable of transcending them through abstract thought, driven by primal instincts yet yearning for higher meaning. Our consciousness is both a gift and a burden, granting us the ability to reflect on our existence while confronting the inevitability of suffering and death.
Why do you believe that 'consciousness', itself, is some thing that 'you' have, exactly?
Ayan Draxler wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:51 pm We construct narratives to impose order on chaos,
But there is no actual 'chaos'.

you have just constructed the narrative that there is 'chaos'. And, you have created this narrative in order to try to make sense of what you just have not yet come to understand, fully.
Ayan Draxler wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:51 pm yet reality remains indifferent to our interpretations.
Of course.

Human thought has never had to align with Truth, nor with Reality.
Ayan Draxler wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:51 pm In this tension—between what we are and what we seek to become—lies the essence of our nature: not fixed, but in perpetual self-creation, forever oscillating between the known and the infinite unknown.
But there is no actual 'tension'.

What you human beings are is just part of the 'evolving process' of the 'I' coming-to-know It, or thy, Self.
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Ayan Draxler wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:51 pm
Everyone knows the experience of suffering but continued suffering is not inevitable. Buddha teaches the path out of suffering, which teaches the nature of mind.
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Ayan Draxler wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:51 pm
Human beings exist at the paradoxical intersection of determinism and free will, reason and irrationality, individuality and collectivity. We are creatures bound by biological imperatives yet capable of transcending them through abstract thought, driven by primal instincts yet yearning for higher meaning. Our consciousness is both a gift and a burden, granting us the ability to reflect on our existence while confronting the inevitability of suffering and death. We construct narratives to impose order on chaos, yet reality remains indifferent to our interpretations. In this tension—between what we are and what we seek to become—lies the essence of our nature: not fixed, but in perpetual self-creation, forever oscillating between the known and the infinite unknown.
Ayan,

The cosmos is creation, forever new, a process without direction, as is the earth for it is the cosmos. What about life and its adaptation to the ever-changing world? It can be nothing but indeterminate for the indeterminate is what it adapts to, change with no direction. There is in this no such thing as human action, there is but human reaction, always adapting to the larger reality of the cosmos. Motivated response is a reaction, not an independent willed action, but a willed reaction. There is neither free will nor determinism, there is but indeterminacy in a flowing creation. There are choices of reaction, but the one thing in which there are no choices is, one cannot not, NOT react to one's environment. All organisms are reactive creatures, the fact that there are choices of reaction does not change that reality. All being is cause to all other beings, and a being's reaction to other beings is a cause to its outer world. An organism's reactions to all other beings are that organism's apparent reality, formed from the energies that surround it. The unknown for all organisms is the unmanifested energies of ultimate reality in a place of no things.
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