In defence of Immanuel Can

[Age]

Immanuel is a good guy. I hope there is a God. The world needs a lot of divine help right now, I think.

'The world' has ALL OF the so-called 'divine help' ALL OF the 'time'. you adult human beings are just NOT LISTENING, HEARING, NOR FOLLOWING IT.

And, "immanuel can" is A PRIME example of one who is Truly NOT LISTENING, and NOT HEARING.

A lot of the way "Immanuel can" looks at and sees, and expresses its views goes AGAINST God, Itself, COMPLETELY.

[Fairy]

Yes, he’s right about God.

God is real. I believe.

This is no bs, I’m being serious.

I’ve changed my mind about God. God exists, and Immanuel Can is right.

Even if God is a just a belief, that belief is a just belief. You wouldn’t know belief or be able to have them if they weren’t real.

Is "immanuel can" right about God having male genitals and that 'male being/person' created absolutely EVERY single thing, and thus EVERY single different species, all at ONCE, as well?

He’s right about God as existing for real.

The devil is in the details. But that doesn’t take anything away from God. Only Gods light is real.

[Age]

Immanuel is a good guy. I hope there is a God. The world needs a lot of divine help right now, I think.

Does good exist? Yes, it does. That’s all that’s needed, thank goodness. Feeling good? That’s good then.

If you don’t feel good, then why wouldn’t you want to feel good? Just feel good, it’s a good feeling, try it.

If you don’t like feeling good, then you won’t, and you could always end your own life if you don’t want to live to feel good.

NO human being does NOT want to feel good. So, absolutely NO one has taken 'their own life' because of this.

Human beings take 'their own lives' is because they do NOT see NOR have ANY hope AT ALL.

That’s why you have choices. You can choose to feel good, or you can choose to not feel anything at all.

But, for the uninitiated it feels and seems a LOT HARDER to 'feel good' if and when others are ABUSING you.

Ask yourself, what do you really want to feel.

And, what one wants to feel 'now', can be VERY DIFFERENT FROM what absolutely EVERY one of you wanted to feel 'before'. EVERY one once wanted to feel the EXACT SAME things. Which, by the way, once KNOWING HELPS IN MOVING TOWARDS, and CREATING, 'the world' in which EVERY one once wanted to live IN, and DESIRED.

[Age]

I’m not literally defending IC as a human character I’m sure he’s a lovely human.

I’m defending IC the messenger of Gods words.

But, because of "immanuel can's" BELIEFS it is CONTINUALLY NOT 'passing on' the God's ACTUAL WORDS.

Anyone who believes in God, is right to believe because God is real.

Maybe so, but SPREADING False hope, promises, and LIES is the EXACT OPPOSITE regarding EVERY thing ABOUT God, Itself.

Anyone who doesn’t believe God is real is still a perfect expression of love. God is love.

BELIEVING IN God is One thing, BELIEVING (IN) ANY thing else is ANOTHER thing.

[Age]

Yes, he’s right about God.

God is real. I believe.

This is no bs, I’m being serious.

I’ve changed my mind about God. God exists, and Immanuel Can is right.

Even if God is a just a belief, that belief is a just belief. You wouldn’t know belief or be able to have them if they weren’t real.

Is "immanuel can" right about God having male genitals and that 'male being/person' created absolutely EVERY single thing, and thus EVERY single different species, all at ONCE, as well?

He’s right about God as existing for real.

I, for One, have NEVER DISPUTED this.

I am just curious in HOW "immanuel can" could even be backed up and supported its OWN personal version of God. And, as of 'now', when i write this, "immanuel can" has NEVER ONCE been able to.

The devil is in the details. But that doesn’t take anything away from God. Only Gods light is real.

Who and/or what, to you, is even God, EXACTLY?

[Fairy]

Is "immanuel can" right about God having male genitals and that 'male being/person' created absolutely EVERY single thing, and thus EVERY single different species, all at ONCE, as well?

He’s right about God as existing for real.

I, for One, have NEVER DISPUTED this.

I am just curious in HOW "immanuel can" could even be backed up and supported its OWN personal version of God. And, as of 'now', when i write this, "immanuel can" has NEVER ONCE been able to.

Please pay attention to the words I've written and what they say.

I said, or meant to say, I'm not defending or supporting IC's version of God, nor am I supporting or defending him as a personality. I'm defending the belief in God as real. I'm defending IC's belief that there is a God and that this God definitely exists.

I was all over the place in a lot of my nondual contexed previous posts. I made a bloody big mess on this forum with my ideas.
But I've recently changed my mind. I am now admitting I was wrong, and are now saying God exists, God is real, and so I just wanted to make this thread to say I agree with IC, that God exists.

Who and/or what, to you, is even God, EXACTLY?

I am the WORD and the word is GOD.

God is the WORD and the word is GOD..is my answer to that question. Is my version of God.

While IC may have a different version of what God is, I don't know what that version is. All I'm saying is that God is, God is real.

[Fairy]

I kept fighting and arguing with IC over who was right and who was wrong.

Looking back, it was a stupid messy part of my forum life.

Right now, I have no argument with anyone posting at this forum, because I am at peace, and I love with all my heart and being. And that makes me feel good. That's what I want, I want to feel the love and goodness that is God, and I Do.

I am God's bride in Christ's name. The only love that is real and worth having is the unconditional love here on earth as it is in heaven.

[Fairy]

But, for the uninitiated it feels and seems a LOT HARDER to 'feel good' if and when others are ABUSING you.

Yes, I suppose it does feel harder to feel good when you are around others who are abusing you. But then for example: I've been abused many times in my life, I nearly was murdered twice, but thankfully survived.

Anyways, what happened to me, never took away my capacity to feel good, not just about life in general, but feel good about myself too.

Yes, I still am susceptible to experiencing lots of downer days, where I just would rather not be alive, but that's just usually how my moods are arising in any given moment, especially when I think about certain situations before they have even happened, that can cause me to feel depressed sometimes. But when I just accept things the way they are and not try to control them, is when I most feel at peace and joy, most of the time my mood are of a very high vibration, where I feel like I'm going to literally burst wide open with joy.

So all I'm saying is that the joy of being never leaves. It's maybe our natural nature, it's the natural default state, the state that makes us feel good.

Feeling good over-rides any feeling of bad every time, well it does in my personal experience anyway.

[Fairy]

Anyone who believes in God, is right to believe because God is real.

Maybe so, but SPREADING False hope, promises, and LIES is the EXACT OPPOSITE regarding EVERY thing ABOUT God, Itself.

I'm not concerned with that sort of detail trivia. I'm simply saying God exists, what one want's to say about one's God is one's own private business.
I'm fairly sure we each have a God of our own understanding, and even if we do not have a God, there's nothing wrong with that.

Anyone who doesn’t believe God is real is still a perfect expression of love. God is love.

BELIEVING IN God is One thing, BELIEVING (IN) ANY thing else is ANOTHER thing.

I don't know what you mean by that. But all I know is that God exists. God exists because that's what I want to believe, and whether it's true or not, doesn't concern me, as I have nothing to lose either which way of whether there is a God or not.

[Age]

He’s right about God as existing for real.

I, for One, have NEVER DISPUTED this.

I am just curious in HOW "immanuel can" could even be backed up and supported its OWN personal version of God. And, as of 'now', when i write this, "immanuel can" has NEVER ONCE been able to.

Please pay attention to the words I've written and what they say.

I said, or meant to say, I'm not defending or supporting IC's version of God, nor am I supporting or defending him as a personality.

LOL

I, literally, can NOT 'pay attention' TO 'the words' that you 'MEANT TO SAY'. I, however, can and was 'paying attention' to 'the words' that you have ACTUALLY said and written, here, and, to 'what those words say'. But, as for 'what those are saying', or 'meaning', exactly, from your perspective, can ONLY ever be KNOWN, for sure, through clarifying questions, and answers.

Now, what you ACTUALLY SAID, and WROTE, FROM the 'very outset', in this thread, is;

Yes, he’s ["immanuel can"] right about God.

If you, REALLY, just want to SAY, and MEAN, some thing like; God is real and exists', then you could have just SAID and WRITTEN 'these words' ALONE, without introducing "immanuel can", and defending its view/s, here.

For example, you could have titled this thread - 'God is real and exists', and left out ANY mention of "immanuel can" from ANYWHERE in this thread.

After all as some of 'us', here, ALREADY KNOW, "immanuel can" BELIEVES, ABSOLUTELY, that God, Itself, IS a 'male gendered being, creature, or person, who created absolutely EVERY thing, all at once'.

In saying 'this', I would also like to take 'us' BACK to what I ACTUALLY SAID, and MEANT, above, as well.

I NEVER EVER once thought, let alone SAID, nor IMPLIED, that you were defending "immanuel can's" ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS 'version of God', nor that you were supporting or defending 'the personality' known, here, as "immanuel can", either.

I was JUST POINTING OUT that I have NEVER disputed that God, Itself, is real. I was, also, JUST MAKING it KNOWN that I have been, and still are, CURIOUS as to HOW "immanuel can" could even be ABLE TO back up and support its OWN personal version of God.

I am, if ANY one cares, here, STILL INTERESTED in SEEING HOW "Immanuel can" could even BEGIN TO START backing up and supporting A MOST LUDICROUS version AND belief.

I'm defending the belief in God as real. I'm defending IC's belief that there is a God and that this God definitely exists.

And, 'this' is, EXACTLY, what I SAW, and SEE, in what you SAID, and WROTE, in your opening post, here.

I DEFINITELY did NOT SEE you defending ANY thing ELSE.

I was all over the place in a lot of my nondual contexed previous posts.

you WERE ABSOLUTELY ON the 'right track' IN 'some ways' BECAUSE you HAD 'the CONCLUSION' ABSOLUTELY True, Right, Accurate, AND Correct. you just had 'your story' and 'words' just NOT YET IN the 'right order', and nor WITH the 'right definitions'. But, you were A LOT CLOSER than others, here, to BEING ON the 'Right PATH', and thus OBTAINING the 'Right T.R.A.C.K.', AS WELL.

I offered a few times to HELP you, so that TOGETHER you could FIND and OBTAIN the Right words, and thus the Right Knowledge, and the Right language, but 'you' wanted to go 'it' ALONE.

See, it is ONLY WHEN 'we' work TOGETHER that the ACTUAL IRREFUTABLE Truth of things CAN, and WILL 'come-to-LIGHT', and NOT just FOR 'us' but FOR ABSOLUTELY EVERY one, AS One.

'This', here, is like the 'human being' and a 'rescue dog'. 'They' can ONLY FIND, and ACHIEVE, 'the goal' WHEN, and IF, 'they' ARE working TOGETHER.

Singularly, 'they' can NOT, and thus will NOT, ACHIEVE 'the GOAL'. 'Two' are ALWAYS NEEDED TO make, create, or ACHIEVE ANY thing 'new' or 'more'.

I made a bloody big mess on this forum with my ideas.

I would NOT SAY 'this', but I will SAY that 'you' were making COMPREHENDING and UNDERSTANDING FAR, FAR HARDER and MORE COMPLEX that it REALLY HAD TO BE.

But I've recently changed my mind. I am now admitting I was wrong, and are now saying God exists, God is real, and so I just wanted to make this thread to say I agree with IC, that God exists.

WHY ONLY WITH "immanuel can"? WHY NOT WITH ANY and/or EVERY one ELSE who SAYS, 'God exists'?

Also, what are you 'now' ADMITTING that you were 'WRONG' ABOUT, EXACTLY?

See, 'now' SAYING, 'God exists', in ABSOLUTELY NO WAY CONTRADICTS nor is in ANY WAY IN ANY OPPOSITION of 'nonduality', itself.

In fact 'God' AND 'nonduality' are more or less the EXACT SAME Thing.

Who and/or what, to you, is even God, EXACTLY?

I am the WORD and the word is GOD.

AND, if and when one LOOKS AT 'these words', here, they ARE LITERAL. Except,

'I' am A WORD, and that word IS God.

The 'I', in the question, 'Who AM 'I'?' which 'you' human beings have been WONDERING ABOUT, and, LOOKING FOR, for quite a relative 'while', is God, Itself, which is just, also, the WHOLE One Universe, Itself, which is made up, fundamentally, of BOTH the 'visible' AND the 'invisible'.

The 'visible' just being 'matter', itself, and the 'invisible' just, literally, being the 'Spirit', Itself, which is, also, known as the Mind, Itself.

God is the WORD and the word is GOD..is my answer to that question. Is my version of God.

1. God is A word.

2. What is 'that question', EXACTLY, which 'your answer', here, is REFERRING TO?

3. 'your version' of God, here, is NOT REALLY SHOWING NOR EXPLAINING MUCH. Which, by the way, IS somewhat SIMILAR TO 'your version' OF 'nonduality'.

While IC may have a different version of what God is, I don't know what that version is.

"immanuel can's" version of God is that God has male genitals, and created absolutely EVERY thing, and thus absolutely EVERY species, ALL AT ONCE, as there is NO 'evolution' AT ALL, in "immanuel can's" version, and theory, here.

All I'm saying is that God is, God is real.

And, just like I was NEVER DISAGREEING WITH 'your view' that there is ONLY 'nonduality' I am ALSO NOT DISAGREEING WITH 'your view', here, that 'God is real'. However, and just like BEFORE, and ALWAYS, would you like HELP in NOT JUST EXPRESSING, but ALSO IN SHOWING, and PROVING, that the One True, and ONLY God, REALLY DOES EXIST, then just let 'me' know. As 'I' KNOW that WHEN 'you' and 'I' work TOGETHER, absolutely ANY thing can be, and WILL BE ACHIEVED, and CREATED.

[Age]

I kept fighting and arguing with IC over who was right and who was wrong.

IN relation TO 'what', EXACTLY?

Looking back, it was a stupid messy part of my forum life.

Do you REALLY think or believe that you are GOING TO HAVE MORE LUCK EXPLAINING that your 'now' NEW BELIEF, here, IS True AND Right, TO those WITH A DISBELIEF and/or AN OPPOSING BELIEF?

For example, HOW are you GOING TO EXPLAIN 'your BELIEF' IN 'God', and its TRUTH, DIFFERENTLY FROM 'your BELIEF' IN 'nonduality', and its TRUTH, EXACTLY?

Right now, I have no argument with anyone posting at this forum, because I am at peace, and I love with all my heart and being.

That IS GREAT.

Previously TELLING others things like, 'you SHOULD NOT PROCREATE BECAUSE 'life' is NOT WORTH LIVING', was, REALLY, NOT the BEST VIEW OF 'life' and OF 'living' one COULD HAVE.

And that makes me feel good. That's what I want, I want to feel the love and goodness that is God, and I Do.

AGAIN, this IS GREAT.

I am God's bride in Christ's name.

I am NOT SURE what 'this' MEANS.

The only love that is real and worth having is the unconditional love here on earth as it is in heaven.

I AGREE.

I ALSO SEE that it is THE RESPONSIBILITY OF adults to MAKE and CREATE A 'life on earth', as 'life' is IN 'heaven', NOT JUST FOR "themselves" but MORE SO FOR 'children', and EVERY one.

[Age]

But, for the uninitiated it feels and seems a LOT HARDER to 'feel good' if and when others are ABUSING you.

Yes, I suppose it does feel harder to feel good when you are around others who are abusing you. But then for example: I've been abused many times in my life, I nearly was murdered twice, but thankfully survived.

Thus, the VERY REASON WHY you HAD A HATRED OF being BROUGHT INTO 'Life', and 'this world', and WHY you were PROMOTING the CEASING OF PRO-CREATION for FOR others.

Anyways, what happened to me, never took away my capacity to feel good, not just about life in general, but feel good about myself too.

VERY, VERY True. The CAPACITY and ABILITY TO 'love', TO 'feel good', TO BE 'OPEN and Honest', and/or TO BE 'Truly Intelligent', to name just just a few are NEVER ACTUALLY 'taken away', BUT 'living WITH' ABUSE and IN' an 'abusive world' REALLY IS 'trying', which ATTEMPTS TO 'take away' the Truly LOVING and Truly INTELLIGENT 'being', which EXISTS WITH ALL 'human beings'.

Yes, I still am susceptible to experiencing lots of downer days, where I just would rather not be alive, but that's just usually how my moods are arising in any given moment, especially when I think about certain situations before they have even happened, that can cause me to feel depressed sometimes.

WHEN 'observing' 'those' with MORE, or MORE RADICAL, mood swings', then 'this' is A CLEAR SIGN of 'one' who HAS BEEN ABUSED, in PARTICULAR WAYS, FAR MORE than some could EVEN IMAGINE.

But, and VERY SADLY, 'those people' ARE JUDGED, BEFORE ANY ACTUAL UNDERSTANDING, and COMPASSION, IS OBTAINED.

But when I just accept things the way they are and not try to control them, is when I most feel at peace and joy, most of the time my mood are of a very high vibration, where I feel like I'm going to literally burst wide open with joy.

'This' IS BECAUSE, WITHIN, what the ACTUAL IRREFUTABLE Truth IS ALREADY KNOWN.

ANY and ALL what are called 'negative emotions', which when one has NOT YET 'grown up', properly, and Correctly, WILL AFFECT the 'person', and thus the 'human being', itself.

ONLY WHEN one has FULLY 'grown up' is when 'they' have LEARNED that ANY and EVERY 'thought' NOR 'emotion' CONTROLS 'them', but that 'they' HAVE FULL and ALL CONTROL OVER EVERY 'emotion' AND 'thought'.

But, BECAUSE NONE of you, human beings, here, when this is being written, have YET been 'brought up', and thus 'grew up', IN the 'True and Right world', (which ALL and EVERY one WANTS TO, DESIRES TO, and DESERVES TO 'LIVE IN'), then NONE of 'you' have YET 'grown up', PROPERLY, AND Correctly.

Which is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNUSUAL, as absolutely EVERY thing that comes IN TO Creation, Itself, through Evolution, HAPPENS and OCCURS WHEN 'it' DOES.

Creating, and LIVING, A 'life', as 'life' IS IN Heaven, is just some thing that IS 'yet-to-come', from 'your poster's perspective', here, but which IS 'on its way'.

So all I'm saying is that the joy of being never leaves.

The 'joy', the 'contentment', the 'bliss', and even the S.A.G.E, [Spirit, Allah, God, Enlightenment], ALWAYS EXIST, WITHIN. However, 'negative' or 'Wrong' TEACHINGS, during 'past experiences', which have AFFECTED the 'thought' and 'feelings' within 'over ride', or 'over shadow', the ACTUAL REAL True, and REAL ONE, that DOES EXIST.

ALL OF 'this' WILL, and DOES, MAKE PERFECT SENSE WHEN who and what the 'you', 'i', 'person', 'human being', and the 'I', IS, EXACTLY, and HOW the 'the brain', and the 'Mind', work, EXACTLY.

The Truth of things NEVER LEAVES, as 'It' IS ALWAYS WITHIN. The Truth, however, has just REMAIN 'OVER SHADOWED' BY the Wrong and False 'teachings', from throughout 'human history'.

See, the 'brain' can ONLY 'put out' what has been 'fed in', and so the 'brain' ONLY 'thinks', and ONLY 'thinks it knows what is right'. Whereas, the Mind, when ALLOWED TO WORK, PROPERLY, and Correctly, ALREADY KNOWS what IS Right, and True, ALWAYS.

In the days when this is being written, you adult human beings had just NOT YET been TAUGHT HOW TO, FULLY, ACCESS what you would say, NEVER LEAVES.

And, CLEARLY, if one has NOT YET been TAUGHT some thing, or has NOT YET LEARNED some thing, then they, OBVIOUSLY, would NOT YET KNOW HOW TO DO, ACCESS, nor ACHIEVE 'it'.

It's maybe our natural nature, it's the natural default state, the state that makes us feel good.

If, and when, one STOPS 'thinking', ABSOLUTELY, for those very FEW seconds an ABSOLUTELY OVER RIDING sense of 'feeling' PURE BLISS 'comes-to-EXIST'.

'This' IS A 'natural DEFAULT state'.

That is UNTIL ANY SENSE of Wrong doing, or ABUSE, is felt or experienced.

Feeling good over-rides any feeling of bad every time, well it does in my personal experience anyway.

OF COURSE, and OBVIOUSLY.

But, MOST adults have NOT YET REACHED, WHERE you OBVIOUSLY HAVE.

And, 'unfortunately', for them, they HAVE NOT YET BECAUSE they WERE ABUSED IN 'other ways', FROM 'you'.

See, the ABUSE you ENDURED WITH, and SUFFERED IN, although being FAR MORE GHASTLY and HORRIFIC than some, or most, adults could even IMAGINE, and HAD TO ENDURE IN, it IS BECAUSE OF your 'WORSE TYPE OF ABUSE', 'at the time', 'you' are, 'now', FAR MORE EASILY and SIMPLY ABLE TO FEEL, SENSE, RECOGNIZE, SEE, COMPREHEND, and UNDERSTAND what the ACTUAL Truth of things IS, EXACTLY.

[Age]

Anyone who believes in God, is right to believe because God is real.

Maybe so, but SPREADING False hope, promises, and LIES is the EXACT OPPOSITE regarding EVERY thing ABOUT God, Itself.

I'm not concerned with that sort of detail trivia.

If you are NOT concerned with this sort of detail, which you, OBVIOUSLY, FIND 'trivial', then okay. But, I was JUST EXPRESSING that SPREADING False hope, False promises, and LIES, like what IS DONE WITH "immanuel can's" 'version of God'.

Now, you might be thinking that you are NOT concerned about 'this sort of, trivial, detail', AS WELL. However, this thread IS TITLED -
"In defence of "immanuel can" '.

So, I just WANT TO MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that IN "immanuel can's" 'version of God', False hope, False promises, AND LIES ARE SPREAD, and, DOING 'this' GOES AGAINST EVERY PART OF God, Itself.

So, like you are NOT concerned WITH 'these sorts of details', I AM concerned that the ACTUAL Truth GETS KNOWN, and IS SHARED.

your CONCERNS are OBVIOUSLY NOT the SAME AS 'Mine'. Which is ALL WELL and GOOD.

'We' ARE just ON A 'public website', WHERE views AND concerns are READILY ABLE TO BE SHARED, and SPREAD.

I'm simply saying God exists, what one want's to say about one's God is one's own private business.

AGAIN, 'this' HAS BEEN, and IS, ALREADY FULLY UNDERSTOOD.

'you' are JUST USING FAR MORE words than just simply, 'God exists', though.

I'm fairly sure we each have a God of our own understanding, and even if we do not have a God, there's nothing wrong with that.

But, and OBVIOUSLY, if you human beings EACH have A God, of your OWN understanding, or even if ALL of you do NOT, then IF ANY of these UNDERSTANDINGS do NOT ALIGN WITH the ACTUAL and ONLY REAL and True GOD, then WHY are you human beings HAVING your OWN 'gods' or your OWN 'understandings'.

What IS 'the purpose' of even DOING 'this', EXACTLY?

Anyone who doesn’t believe God is real is still a perfect expression of love. God is love.

BELIEVING IN God is One thing, BELIEVING (IN) ANY thing else is ANOTHER thing.

I don't know what you mean by that.

Now, if you REALLY did WANT TO KNOW what I MEAN by 'that', then you WOULD HAVE ASKED 'me' A CLARIFYING QUESTION, here.

But, FOR ANY one ELSE who WOULD LIKE TO KNOW what I MEANT, by 'that', EXACTLY, then just let 'me' know and I WILL INFORM 'you'.

By the way, what I MEANT by 'that' HAS TO DO WITH the ACTUAL PURPOSE OF BELIEVING (IN) One Thing, ONLY.

But all I know is that God exists.

Okay.

God exists because that's what I want to believe, and whether it's true or not, doesn't concern me, as I have nothing to lose either which way of whether there is a God or not.

Okay. But IF God did NOT EXIST, then 'you' ALSO would NOT have 'come-to-EXIST', NEITHER.

[Fairy]

Age, thanks for all the responses you’ve posted. Much appreciated. I’ve throughly read them all.

I haven’t anything to add really. I mostly agree with your overall world view on matters regarding the human psyche and the idea of God. You never fail to put things into coherent sensible relatable perspective. I’m very grateful for the patience and time and effort you put into to offering your support in all philosophical matters.

[Age]

Age, thanks for all the responses you’ve posted. Much appreciated. I’ve throughly read them all.

I haven’t anything to add really. I mostly agree with your overall world view on matters regarding the human psyche and the idea of God. You never fail to put things into coherent sensible relatable perspective. I’m very grateful for the patience and time and effort you put into to offering your support in all philosophical matters.

If I can correct you, here, I would just add the word, 'eventually', between the, 'You', and, 'never', words.

Because, as far as most, here, would VERY OPENLY ADMIT, and SAY, 'i do FAIL to put things into a coherent sensible relatable perspective, to them'.

See, for me to NEVER fail to put things into 'coherent sensible relatable perspectives', for ANY and EVERY one, BEING ASKED CLARIFYING QUESTIONS IS NEEDED, as well as FULL Honesty, and OPENNESS.