Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

[Atla]

Well, that's still a "you" problem, not an "us" problem.

Well the inevitable conclusion of idiocracy will be that we'll blow up the planet, so it's kinda an "us" problem. Anyway, as you were.

It's not an "us" problem if "we" can't do anything about it. So if you're not an American, stop complaining about something that's got nothing to do with you; and if you are an American, stop complaining about what your own democratic process gave you.

And if you're an authoritarian, go away.

Says the guy who posted a lot more on Biden than I did on Trump.

[Immanuel Can]

Well the inevitable conclusion of idiocracy will be that we'll blow up the planet, so it's kinda an "us" problem. Anyway, as you were.

It's not an "us" problem if "we" can't do anything about it. So if you're not an American, stop complaining about something that's got nothing to do with you; and if you are an American, stop complaining about what your own democratic process gave you.

And if you're an authoritarian, go away.

Says the guy who posted a lot more on Biden than I did on Trump.

You mistake me for somebody else, apparently.

[Atla]

It's not an "us" problem if "we" can't do anything about it. So if you're not an American, stop complaining about something that's got nothing to do with you; and if you are an American, stop complaining about what your own democratic process gave you.

And if you're an authoritarian, go away.

Says the guy who posted a lot more on Biden than I did on Trump.

You mistake me for somebody else, apparently.

Or I know how to use the search function of the forum.

[Immanuel Can]

Says the guy who posted a lot more on Biden than I did on Trump.

You mistake me for somebody else, apparently.

Or I know how to use the search function of the forum.

Apparently not. Other than pointing out the truth about the origins of the conflict, I've had nothing to say about Biden. I haven't called him a "madman," or suggested that he brought the world to and end, as you have about Trump. So I think my measured and accurate identification of the source of the conflict is in no way comparable to your rant.

But we can dispense with all that now. Done.

[Atla]

You mistake me for somebody else, apparently.

Or I know how to use the search function of the forum.

Apparently not. Other than pointing out the truth about the origins of the conflict, I've had nothing to say about Biden. I haven't called him a "madman," or suggested that he brought the world to and end, as you have about Trump. So I think my measured and accurate identification of the source of the conflict is in no way comparable to your rant.

But we can dispense with all that now. Done.

I didn't suggest either that he brought the world to an end. And it's nice of you to acknowledge that Biden isn't a madman, but that doesn't mean that Trump isn't one either.

[Immanuel Can]

Or I know how to use the search function of the forum.

Apparently not. Other than pointing out the truth about the origins of the conflict, I've had nothing to say about Biden. I haven't called him a "madman," or suggested that he brought the world to and end, as you have about Trump. So I think my measured and accurate identification of the source of the conflict is in no way comparable to your rant.

But we can dispense with all that now. Done.

I didn't suggest either that he brought the world to an end. And it's nice of you to acknowledge that Biden isn't a madman, but that doesn't mean that Trump isn't one either.

You just can't help yourself. But what you don't get is that it's all a "you" problem. I don't care.

Now, do you have anything to offer relevant to peace for Ukraine, or are you merely hear to issue spittle-flecked rants against Trump? Because if it's the latter, I've got something more fun to do...like shampoo my cat.

[Atla]

Apparently not. Other than pointing out the truth about the origins of the conflict, I've had nothing to say about Biden. I haven't called him a "madman," or suggested that he brought the world to and end, as you have about Trump. So I think my measured and accurate identification of the source of the conflict is in no way comparable to your rant.

But we can dispense with all that now. Done.

I didn't suggest either that he brought the world to an end. And it's nice of you to acknowledge that Biden isn't a madman, but that doesn't mean that Trump isn't one either.

You just can't help yourself. But what you don't get is that it's all a "you" problem. I don't care.

Now, do you have anything to offer relevant to peace for Ukraine, or are you merely hear to issue spittle-flecked rants against Trump? Because if it's the latter, I've got something more fun to do...like shampoo my cat.

Like half the world thinks that Trump a madman, it's not exactly a "me" problem. I don't think you have anything better to do btw, and healthy cats clean themselves.

[Immanuel Can]

Like half the world thinks that Trump a madman,

You just can't help yourself.

So...nothing relevant. Okay. Off you go.

[Atla]

Like half the world thinks that Trump a madman,

You just can't help yourself.

So...nothing relevant. Okay. Off you go.

Shouldn't you be shampooing your cat?

[Immanuel Can]

Like half the world thinks that Trump a madman,

You just can't help yourself.

So...nothing relevant. Okay. Off you go.

Shouldn't you be shampooing your cat?

Will do.

[phyllo]

Why can't Trump be a madman?

Why can't people come to the conclusion that Trump is a madman?

[Immanuel Can]

Why can't Trump be a madman?

It's silly. He's the elected president, and he's not leaving. What's the use of it? And it's boring. It has nothing to do with peace for Ukraine.

Moreover, dubbing somebody a "madman" leaves no possible discussion to be had. If somebody is "mad," then there's nothing whatsoever you can do about it. So the whole topic is a discussion-killer.

A much more profitable thing is to discuss what the major players might do now, so that no more Ukrainians die. But for some reason, people seem more enamoured of declaring the world how much they hate Trump than they do about dying Ukrainians. It seems really self-important and silly to me, that people care more about railing against Trump than they do about solving the problem in Ukraine. I think they actually imagine that we think they're "better people" if they call Trump names.

But we don't. We recognize them for what they are: preening fools without any good ideas, and with no interest in the welfare of Ukraine.

[phyllo]

It's silly. He's the elected president, and he's not leaving. What's the use of it? And it's boring. It has nothing to do with peace for Ukraine.

Moreover, dubbing somebody a "madman" leaves no possible discussion to be had. If somebody is "mad," then there's nothing whatsoever you can do about it. So the whole topic is a discussion-killer.

So he may be a madman but we ought not say it out loud?

But if he is a madman, then we ought not to be doing what he says to do. We ought not to be going along with the madness.

A much more profitable thing is to discuss what the major players might do now, so that no more Ukrainians die. But for some reason, people seem more enamoured of declaring the world how much they hate Trump than they do about dying Ukrainians. It seems really self-important and silly to me, that people care more about railing against Trump than they do about solving the problem in Ukraine. I think they actually imagine that we think they're "better people" if they call Trump names.

But we don't. We recognize them for what they are: preening fools without any good ideas, and with no interest in the welfare of Ukraine.

I don't see you proposing anything constructive.

[Age]

Blatant liar Age pretends that it wasn't the one who brought up the issue of the US OBVIOUSLY not winning in Ukraine, and we are still waiting for Age to explain how it knows this. Age ran away from answering the question like 10 times already, it should be easy to explain it if it's obvious.

1. I have NEVER, EVER, PRETENDED that I was NOT the one who brought up the Fact that the "united states of america" is 'not winning' 'this war'.

2. you, and whoever else you reckon, WILL BE WAITING TILL "atla" CLARIFIES what 'this' IS, EXACTLY.

3. I have NEVER EVER RUN AWAY FROM ANY thing, here.

4. It IS FAR SIMPLER and FAR EASIER TO EXPLAIN some 'thing', when one INFORMS what the 'thing' IS, EXACTLY.

5. OBVIOUSLY I MADE, AT LEAST, THREE CLAIMS. So, IF "atla" EVER CLARIFIES what 'it' WANTS 'me' TO INFORM 'it' of HOW I KNOW, then "atla" WILL JUST CLARIFY.

But, "atla" does NOT WANT things TO CHANGE, here. "atla" OBVIOUSLY HAS AN AGENDA, which it is 'TRYING' its HARDEST TO ACCOMPLISH, and ACHIEVE, here. So, this IS WHY it does NOT CLARIFY things, here. its OWN GOAL, here, has DISABLED its ABILITY TO ANSWER, and CLARIFY, OPENLY and Honestly, here.

Once again a wall of shouting without answering the question.

ONCE AGAIN, this IMBECILE can NOT HEAR, and UNDERSTAND.

But, it is Right in that it does NOT ANSWER the CLARIFYING QUESTIONS POSED, and ASKED TO it..

[phyllo]

Trump is talking to Putin.

Trump says Putin wants peace.

Trump and Putin are on "good terms".

So then Trump can tell us what concessions Putin is willing to make in order to have peace.

I don't see Putin/Russia making the slightest effort to have peace.