Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Re: Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:39 pm
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:08 pm
Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:09 am

LOL

AGAIN,

1. NOT one single word of shouting.

2. I am, STILL, TRYING TO GET you TO CLARIFY what 'it' is, EXACTLY, what you want me to ANSWER.

3. SEEKING OUT CLARITY, FROM you, BEFORE I KNOW what TO ANSWER, EXACTLY, is NOT being A 'liar'.

4. you have CLAIMED, an unknown amount of times, that I have LIED. Now. NOT ONCE have you backed up and supported this CLAIM of yours, even AFTER I HAVE SPECIFICALLY ASKED you TO.

5. Now, this time, you are CLAIMING that I have PROVEN TO BE A LIAR, at least 100 times. So, this gives you, at least 100 chances, to link 'us' to WHERE you BELIEVE I HAVE PROVEN TO have LIED.

Will you DO this, this time?

We WILL have TO WAIT, TO SEE. But, going on your past experiences absolutely NOTHING will be FORTH COMING.


LOL ALSO, you CLAIMED 'not winning doesn't necessarily mean losing either', so I just ASK you TO CLARIFY, 'what does 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEAN, EXACTLY?'

Yet you are NOT EVEN ABLE to just CLARIFY this.
Again a wall of shouting instead of just answering the question.
LOL There is NOT A SINGLE WORD OF shouting. As I have ALREADY EXPLAINED NUMEROUS TIMES OVER.

And, 'this one' is NOT EVEN ABLE TO CLEARLY EXPRESS what it even WANTS ANSWERED, here.

Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:08 pm And the retard now wants me to define the expression that he/she brought up.
It was, OBVIOUSLY, "atla" who was 'the one' that CLAIMED that 'not winning doesn't necessarily mean losing either'.

And, 'i' was just 'the one' that just ASKED it, 'What does 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEAN, EXACTLY?'

However, "atla", once more, IS COMPLETELY INCAPABLE OF JUST EXPLAINING what 'it' AND 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEANS.
Maybe Age kept hitting its head with a hammer until it forgot that it was the one who started talking about not winning.

We could talk to Age about the weather and it would reply with dozens of walls of shoutings but would be incapable of actually replying even to that.
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Re: Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:55 am
Dubious wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:49 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:30 am
Wait and see. It'll all come out.


No, Cathy Newman, I'm not "saying" any words you're trying to put in my mouth.
For it to all come out there has to be prior data indicating the possiblity that it may all eventually reveal itself.
Yep.

You're not going to believe it now, but you will later. Wait until it all comes out.
...so I ask again, where are the indicators of that? Are you privy to some government secrets that no one else would know about? What's your reason or reasons, the breadcrumbs, leading to that conclusion? What is clear since the last 5 weeks is that the U.S. Constitution no-longer rules, that it's no-longer government by the people for the people but by criminals for the criminals, both national and international; that it is, in effect, being sabotaged by internal traitors.

You made the announcement that Zelenskyy is making too much money reselling American arms at 20% of their value, on the black market right now. He just wants that gravy train to keep rolling, so he has no interest in peace...and even less in democracy.

That is really a vicious accusation! Why is it that you don't even attempt to justify it when asked?
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Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:53 pm
Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:39 pm
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:08 pm
Again a wall of shouting instead of just answering the question.
LOL There is NOT A SINGLE WORD OF shouting. As I have ALREADY EXPLAINED NUMEROUS TIMES OVER.

And, 'this one' is NOT EVEN ABLE TO CLEARLY EXPRESS what it even WANTS ANSWERED, here.

Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:08 pm And the retard now wants me to define the expression that he/she brought up.
It was, OBVIOUSLY, "atla" who was 'the one' that CLAIMED that 'not winning doesn't necessarily mean losing either'.

And, 'i' was just 'the one' that just ASKED it, 'What does 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEAN, EXACTLY?'

However, "atla", once more, IS COMPLETELY INCAPABLE OF JUST EXPLAINING what 'it' AND 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEANS.
Maybe Age kept hitting its head with a hammer until it forgot that it was the one who started talking about not winning.
LOL
LOL
LOL

I have NEVER even imagined that I was the one who started talking about 'not winning', let alone SAYING and WRITING I was NOT, NOR LET ALONE even having HINTED or ALLUDED to that ABSOLUTELY ANYWHERE, here.

Look "atla" it does NOT MATTER, ONE IOTA, that I was the one who started talking about 'not winning', here.

It appears that you have FORGOTTEN, or are just 'TRYING TO' DEFLECT AWAY, that it was ACTUALLY you CLAIMED that,
'not winning does not necessarily mean losing either'.

To which I just REPLIED by just ASKING the Truly OPEN CLARIFYING QUESTION,
'What does 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEAN, EXACTLY?' TO you.

Now, what HAS OBVIOUSLY OCCURRED, here, is 'you' INFORMED 'us' of what 'not winning' does NOT necessarily mean, TO you. So, 'now' IS your CHANCE TO INFORM 'us' of what 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEANS, TO you, EXACTLY?

But, as ALWAYS, you just DO NOT CLARIFY "yourself".

For REASONS, which are BLATANTLY OBVIOUS, by the way. Well maybe NOT TO you, that is.
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:53 pm We could talk to Age about the weather and it would reply with dozens of walls of shoutings
ONCE MORE FOR the Truly STUPID and HARD OF HEARING, and OF COMPREHENDING and UNDERSTANDING, I have NEVER ONCE shouted in this forum. When I highlight words in capital letters, then what I am, literally, doing is just highlighting those words, ONLY.
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:53 pm but would be incapable of actually replying even to that.
LOL
LOL
LOL

Even, here, it uses the 'that' word. But, as it has PROVEN, there is NO USE ASKING it TO CLARIFY.

Also, and by the way, what 'we' have, here, is ANOTHER PRIME example of 'this ones' CONTINUED USE of Truly NONSENSICAL and ILLOGICAL sentences.

SUPPOSEDLY, even if you posters, here, talk TO 'me' about 'the weather' I WOULD reply, with capital letters, BUT I, ALSO, WOULD, SUPPOSEDLY, be INCAPABLE of ACTUALLY REPLYING.

So, AGAIN, "atla" PRESENTS, FOR 'us', MORE OF its, OBVIOUSLY ABSOLUTELY SELF-CONTRADICTORY BELIEFS.
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Re: Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Dubious wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:55 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:55 am
Dubious wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:49 am

For it to all come out there has to be prior data indicating the possiblity that it may all eventually reveal itself.
Yep.

You're not going to believe it now, but you will later. Wait until it all comes out.
...so I ask again, where are the indicators of that? Are you privy to some government secrets that no one else would know about? What's your reason or reasons, the breadcrumbs, leading to that conclusion? What is clear since the last 5 weeks is that the U.S. Constitution no-longer rules, that it's no-longer government by the people for the people but by criminals for the criminals, both national and international; that it is, in effect, being sabotaged by internal traitors.

You made the announcement that Zelenskyy is making too much money reselling American arms at 20% of their value, on the black market right now. He just wants that gravy train to keep rolling, so he has no interest in peace...and even less in democracy.

That is really a vicious accusation! Why is it that you don't even attempt to justify it when asked?
BECAUSE it CAN NOT.

What "immanuel can" ACTUALLY DID, here, was just PRESENT, and SHOW, another form of PROJECTION, itself. But, instead of A PROJECTION of it, ONLY, it was MORE OF A PROJECTION OF 'the ones' who it is following, backing up, AND supporting, here, MORE SO.
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Re: Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Dubious wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:55 pm ...so I ask again, where are the indicators of that?
Zelensky's behaviour so far. I think it's pretty clear what sort of person he is...one who suspends the democratic process, persecutes the religious, and would rather see the war continue, probably so he can continue to profiteer. It's evidently not peace he's after, but continued US support and financing, plus revenge. That's going to get a lot more Ukrainians and Russians killed. It's just my suspicion, which is why I prefaced my comments with "I suspect." But I don't think I'm going to turn out to be wrong about that.
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Re: Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 amZelensky's behaviour so far. I think it's pretty clear what sort of person he is...one who suspends the democratic process
In a time of war, suspending the democratic process in most things is invariably invoked by almost every country for obvious reasons. Most people would consider holding elections at such a time of national danger as insanity.
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 ampersecutes the religious
In all these years, I never once heard of that until you mentioned it. If true, there has to be evidence for these so-called persecutions. What and where is it? These crimes do not go unnoticed!
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 am...and would rather see the war continue, probably so he can continue to profiteer.
So what you're implying is he would rather see Ukraine destroyed, it's people, culture and language suppressed as long as he can continue profiteering!

To understate, something here doesn't smell right!
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 amIt's just my suspicion, which is why I prefaced my comments with "I suspect." But I don't think I'm going to turn out to be wrong about that.
So you admit that what you directly accused him of is only your suspicion without evidence for anything that can point to your suspicions having any credibility. There must be a reason or reasons why you are so mistrustful regarding his motives, which, bluntly put, you still haven't declared!

...and what about Putin. Do you believe he was defending Russia from Ukraine when he invaded or do you think it was, as Trump affirmed, Ukraine who started the war?
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Has Trump flipped Ukraine … for Russia?


Concessions to Moscow. Over the last three weeks, Trump and his administration made concession after concession to Russian positions.
. . .
What did the United States receive in return for leaning toward Russian positions on key peace deal issues (territory and security guarantees), for breaking Putin out of his isolation from the West, and for trying to protect Moscow from being fingered as the aggressor? Nothing. On a February 23 morning news show, billionaire Trump negotiator Steve Witkoff was asked to specify a concession from Russia. He did not name a single concession the United States had received from Moscow, or even one that US officials had asked of Russia.
https://thebulletin.org/2025/03/has-tru ... st-heading
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 am
Dubious wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:55 pm ...so I ask again, where are the indicators of that?
Zelensky's behaviour so far.
Do you have ANY links to the ACTUAL 'behavior', by 'this one'?

I have SEEN footage of the 'other ones' displaying HORRENDOUS misbehavior towards 'that one', but NONE the other way around.
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 am I think it's pretty clear what sort of person he is...one who suspends the democratic process, persecutes the religious, and would rather see the war continue, probably so he can continue to profiteer.
ALL of 'these' ARE JUST your OPINIONS, ONLY.

Unless, OF COURSE, you PROVIDE ACTUAL PROOF otherwise.
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 am It's evidently not peace he's after, but continued US support and financing, plus revenge.
AGAIN, HOW does one ACTUAL 'achieve peace' when one IS BEING 'bullied' and/or ATTACKED, EXACTLY? Besides, of course, just 'GIVING UP' and GIVING the 'bully/attacker' whatever it is that they are WANTING.
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 am That's going to get a lot more Ukrainians and Russians killed.
It is like "immanuel can" ACTUALLY BELIEVES that it was "volodymyr zelenskyy" who STARTED 'this war' and IS 'the one' ATTACKING the "other side".

DEFENDING 'one's side' is NOT what IS ACTUALLY CAUSING the DEATH of 'others'.

OBVIOUSLY IF 'the ones' who STARTED the war and who ARE CONTINUALLY TRYING TO TAKE OVER 'another side', then 'this' is what IS ACTUALLY CAUSING 'the KILLINGS'.

"volodymyr zelenskyy" did NOT START 'the war' and IS NOT ATTACKING 'another'.

The "leader" of "russia" STARTED 'this war' and IS CONTINUALLY ATTACKING 'another', which IS KILLING human beings.

And, let 'us' NOT FORGET that the "vladimir putin" has THE REASON WHY it STARTED 'this war', and it IS BECAUSE the so-called "west" WOULD NOT JUST STOP ADVANCING "east" IN TO "soviet union" TERRITORIES.

So, if ANY one REALLY WANTS TO STOP the KILLINGS, then it IS 'those' of the "west", who WANT TO KEEP 'TRYING TO' TAKE OVER the "other sides" LANDS and TERRITORIES, in what WAS ONCE the "soviet unions" LANDS and TERRITORIES, who NEED/ED TO HAVE TO STOP, FIRST.

"kyiv", after all, USED TO BE A very important city within the Soviet Union. So, "vladimir putin" is JUST WANTING TO GET BACK what was ONCE part of the "soviet union's", and/or just STOP "the west" FROM its CONTINUED advancements/movements.

IMAGINE if "russia" or "china" CONTINUED MOVING/ADVANCING CLOSER and CLOSER to "united states of america" BY GETTING, and/or TAKING OVER, more lands and territories IN "america", itself. What would the "leader" of the "united states of america" ALLOW TO HAPPEN, and DO TO STOP the CONTINUED movement/advancement? Especially considering the 'current' "leader" of the "united states of america", when this is being written.

Would "the leader" END UP BOMBING and KILLING 'the people' IN "canada" and/or "mexico", in AN ATTEMPT TO GET BACK the lands and territories, which were ONCE IN "america", if "russia" and/or "china" HAD TAKEN OVER and GOT AS CLOSE as "the west" HAS GOT TO "russia"?
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 am It's just my suspicion, which is why I prefaced my comments with "I suspect." But I don't think I'm going to turn out to be wrong about that.
Does ANY one think they ARE going to be WRONG about 'their suspicions'?

If they did, then that would, literally, DEFEATING the ACTUAL PURPOSE of 'suspecting', and/or 'being suspect'.
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Dubious wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:36 am ...there has to be evidence for these so-called persecutions.
https://www.hudson.org/religious-freedo ... l-marshall
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 am...and would rather see the war continue, probably so he can continue to profiteer.
So what you're implying is he would rather see Ukraine destroyed, it's people, culture and language suppressed as long as he can continue profiteering!
Now you've got it.
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 amIt's just my suspicion, which is why I prefaced my comments with "I suspect." But I don't think I'm going to turn out to be wrong about that.
So you admit that what you directly accused him of is only your suspicion...
I suspect you always knew what "I suspect" meant at the beginning of a sentence.

But I think you'll find the suspicion warranted. Wait and see.
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Dubious wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:36 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 amZelensky's behaviour so far. I think it's pretty clear what sort of person he is...one who suspends the democratic process
In a time of war, suspending the democratic process in most things is invariably invoked by almost every country for obvious reasons. Most people would consider holding elections at such a time of national danger as insanity.
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 ampersecutes the religious
In all these years, I never once heard of that until you mentioned it. If true, there has to be evidence for these so-called persecutions. What and where is it? These crimes do not go unnoticed!
"immanuel can" just BELIEVES that if one is NOT ALIGNING TO its OWN 'version of religion', then 'that one' IS PERSECUTING 'its religion', and 'those' of 'that religion'.
Dubious wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:36 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 am...and would rather see the war continue, probably so he can continue to profiteer.
So what you're implying is he would rather see Ukraine destroyed, it's people, culture and language suppressed as long as he can continue profiteering!

To understate, something here doesn't smell right!
"immanuel can" HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY DECEIVED, here, and as such IS ABSOLUTELY BLIND, 'now'.
Dubious wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:36 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 amIt's just my suspicion, which is why I prefaced my comments with "I suspect." But I don't think I'm going to turn out to be wrong about that.
So you admit that what you directly accused him of is only your suspicion without evidence for anything that can point to your suspicions having any credibility. There must be a reason or reasons why you are so mistrustful regarding his motives, which, bluntly put, you still haven't declared!
BECAUSE "immanuel can" IS one of 'those' who can BE SO EASILY and SO SIMPLY MISLED and DECEIVED, it was, AGAIN, unfortunately, ABSOLUTELY FOOLED and TRICKED BY just 'the words', and 'the act', PLAYED OUT BY "donald trump" on 'that occasion'.
Dubious wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:36 am ...and what about Putin. Do you believe he was defending Russia from Ukraine when he invaded or do you think it was, as Trump affirmed, Ukraine who started the war?
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:36 am
Dubious wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:36 am ...there has to be evidence for these so-called persecutions.
https://www.hudson.org/religious-freedo ... l-marshall
LOL

So, ALL IT TAKES FOR 'evidence' to exist, FOR "immanuel can", is just one person, or just a few people, FROM "one side" of things, being the "donald trump side", here, to JUST SAY an ACCUSATION, ONLY.

LOL 'This' is NOT even being CLOSE TO being 'evidence'.

BUT, adult human beings, in the 'olden days' when this was being written, WOULD USE and ACCEPT just about ANY 'thing' AS so-called 'evidence'.

Which is WHY 'evidence' is, REALLY, just about ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS, and USELESS, well COMPARED TO ACTUAL 'PROOF', itself.
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:36 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 am...and would rather see the war continue, probably so he can continue to profiteer.
So what you're implying is he would rather see Ukraine destroyed, it's people, culture and language suppressed as long as he can continue profiteering!
Now you've got it.
LOL
LOL
LOL

you are BEING BEYOND and ABSOLUTE DELUDED IMBECILE, here, "Immanuel can".

you HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO 'GO ONE', OTHER THAN JUST A FEW WORDS, and UNSUBSTANTIATED ACCUSATIONS, FROM JUST 'some', who are ON the "donald trump side", of things anyway, here. And YET, you ACTUALLY MAKE CONCLUSIONS, and LOL, WORSE STILL, START BELIEVING your OWN CONCLUSIONS.

Could you come across as MORE EASILY DECEIVED, MORE CLOSED, and MORE STUPID, here, "immanuel can"?
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:36 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 amIt's just my suspicion, which is why I prefaced my comments with "I suspect." But I don't think I'm going to turn out to be wrong about that.
So you admit that what you directly accused him of is only your suspicion...
I suspect you always knew what "I suspect" meant at the beginning of a sentence.

But I think you'll find the suspicion warranted. Wait and see.
LOL
LOL
LOL

'This one' ALSO BELIEVES, ABSOLUTELY, that its SUSPICION that human beings, individually, WILL FIND OUT 'each, INDIVIDUAL's, destiny', AFTER each INDIVIDUAL human body STOPS breathing and STOPS pumping blood, WILL BE WARRANTED, AS WELL.

Which SHOWS and PROVES just HOW DELUDED, and DELUSIONAL, "immanuel can" REALLY IS.

Once "immanuel can" BELIEVES some thing IS TRUE, then the ONLY things that it then SEES, and HEARS, CONFIRM its ALREADY HELD BELIEFS, and PRESUMPTIONS.

But, this is just the VERY NATURE OF HAVING and HOLDING BELIEFS, and PRESUMPTIONS, and as such OF BEING Truly CLOSED, and STUPID.
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Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:14 pm
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:53 pm
Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:39 pm

LOL There is NOT A SINGLE WORD OF shouting. As I have ALREADY EXPLAINED NUMEROUS TIMES OVER.

And, 'this one' is NOT EVEN ABLE TO CLEARLY EXPRESS what it even WANTS ANSWERED, here.




It was, OBVIOUSLY, "atla" who was 'the one' that CLAIMED that 'not winning doesn't necessarily mean losing either'.

And, 'i' was just 'the one' that just ASKED it, 'What does 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEAN, EXACTLY?'

However, "atla", once more, IS COMPLETELY INCAPABLE OF JUST EXPLAINING what 'it' AND 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEANS.
Maybe Age kept hitting its head with a hammer until it forgot that it was the one who started talking about not winning.
LOL
LOL
LOL

I have NEVER even imagined that I was the one who started talking about 'not winning', let alone SAYING and WRITING I was NOT, NOR LET ALONE even having HINTED or ALLUDED to that ABSOLUTELY ANYWHERE, here.

Look "atla" it does NOT MATTER, ONE IOTA, that I was the one who started talking about 'not winning', here.

It appears that you have FORGOTTEN, or are just 'TRYING TO' DEFLECT AWAY, that it was ACTUALLY you CLAIMED that,
'not winning does not necessarily mean losing either'.

To which I just REPLIED by just ASKING the Truly OPEN CLARIFYING QUESTION,
'What does 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEAN, EXACTLY?' TO you.

Now, what HAS OBVIOUSLY OCCURRED, here, is 'you' INFORMED 'us' of what 'not winning' does NOT necessarily mean, TO you. So, 'now' IS your CHANCE TO INFORM 'us' of what 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEANS, TO you, EXACTLY?

But, as ALWAYS, you just DO NOT CLARIFY "yourself".

For REASONS, which are BLATANTLY OBVIOUS, by the way. Well maybe NOT TO you, that is.
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:53 pm We could talk to Age about the weather and it would reply with dozens of walls of shoutings
ONCE MORE FOR the Truly STUPID and HARD OF HEARING, and OF COMPREHENDING and UNDERSTANDING, I have NEVER ONCE shouted in this forum. When I highlight words in capital letters, then what I am, literally, doing is just highlighting those words, ONLY.
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:53 pm but would be incapable of actually replying even to that.
LOL
LOL
LOL

Even, here, it uses the 'that' word. But, as it has PROVEN, there is NO USE ASKING it TO CLARIFY.

Also, and by the way, what 'we' have, here, is ANOTHER PRIME example of 'this ones' CONTINUED USE of Truly NONSENSICAL and ILLOGICAL sentences.

SUPPOSEDLY, even if you posters, here, talk TO 'me' about 'the weather' I WOULD reply, with capital letters, BUT I, ALSO, WOULD, SUPPOSEDLY, be INCAPABLE of ACTUALLY REPLYING.

So, AGAIN, "atla" PRESENTS, FOR 'us', MORE OF its, OBVIOUSLY ABSOLUTELY SELF-CONTRADICTORY BELIEFS.
Blatant liar Age pretends that it wasn't the one who brought up the issue of the US OBVIOUSLY not winning in Ukraine, and we are still waiting for Age to explain how it knows this. Age ran away from answering the question like 10 times already, it should be easy to explain it if it's obvious.
Age wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:19 pm But, 'who' is 'the loser', here, exactly?

Obviously the "united states of america" is not and can not win, so it is 'losing' and 'the loser', here. Thus, why "donald trump" wants to just 'give up' and 'hand over' "ukraine" to "russia".

The "united states of america" can not beat "russia", here.
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Looks like Germany, France, the UK and other countries may already consider to spend a trillion euros on weapons and infrastructure. It's possible that now that after many decades the US no longer wants to play the watchdog of the planet, the European superpower will have to emerge to counter the Russian threat. This may actually be the worst possible outcome for Putin.
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Atla wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:11 am This may actually be the worst possible outcome for Putin.
He will be fine, his Tricycle of Evil has gained a Trumpian fourth wheel and will henceforth be the Shopping Trolley of Evil. But definitely with Putin still in charge.
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Atla wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:31 am
Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:14 pm
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:53 pm
Maybe Age kept hitting its head with a hammer until it forgot that it was the one who started talking about not winning.
LOL
LOL
LOL

I have NEVER even imagined that I was the one who started talking about 'not winning', let alone SAYING and WRITING I was NOT, NOR LET ALONE even having HINTED or ALLUDED to that ABSOLUTELY ANYWHERE, here.

Look "atla" it does NOT MATTER, ONE IOTA, that I was the one who started talking about 'not winning', here.

It appears that you have FORGOTTEN, or are just 'TRYING TO' DEFLECT AWAY, that it was ACTUALLY you CLAIMED that,
'not winning does not necessarily mean losing either'.

To which I just REPLIED by just ASKING the Truly OPEN CLARIFYING QUESTION,
'What does 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEAN, EXACTLY?' TO you.

Now, what HAS OBVIOUSLY OCCURRED, here, is 'you' INFORMED 'us' of what 'not winning' does NOT necessarily mean, TO you. So, 'now' IS your CHANCE TO INFORM 'us' of what 'not winning' ACTUALLY MEANS, TO you, EXACTLY?

But, as ALWAYS, you just DO NOT CLARIFY "yourself".

For REASONS, which are BLATANTLY OBVIOUS, by the way. Well maybe NOT TO you, that is.
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:53 pm We could talk to Age about the weather and it would reply with dozens of walls of shoutings
ONCE MORE FOR the Truly STUPID and HARD OF HEARING, and OF COMPREHENDING and UNDERSTANDING, I have NEVER ONCE shouted in this forum. When I highlight words in capital letters, then what I am, literally, doing is just highlighting those words, ONLY.
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:53 pm but would be incapable of actually replying even to that.
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Even, here, it uses the 'that' word. But, as it has PROVEN, there is NO USE ASKING it TO CLARIFY.

Also, and by the way, what 'we' have, here, is ANOTHER PRIME example of 'this ones' CONTINUED USE of Truly NONSENSICAL and ILLOGICAL sentences.

SUPPOSEDLY, even if you posters, here, talk TO 'me' about 'the weather' I WOULD reply, with capital letters, BUT I, ALSO, WOULD, SUPPOSEDLY, be INCAPABLE of ACTUALLY REPLYING.

So, AGAIN, "atla" PRESENTS, FOR 'us', MORE OF its, OBVIOUSLY ABSOLUTELY SELF-CONTRADICTORY BELIEFS.
Blatant liar Age pretends that it wasn't the one who brought up the issue of the US OBVIOUSLY not winning in Ukraine, and we are still waiting for Age to explain how it knows this. Age ran away from answering the question like 10 times already, it should be easy to explain it if it's obvious.
Age wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:19 pm But, 'who' is 'the loser', here, exactly?

Obviously the "united states of america" is not and can not win, so it is 'losing' and 'the loser', here. Thus, why "donald trump" wants to just 'give up' and 'hand over' "ukraine" to "russia".

The "united states of america" can not beat "russia", here.
1. I have NEVER, EVER, PRETENDED that I was NOT the one who brought up the Fact that the "united states of america" is 'not winning' 'this war'.

2. you, and whoever else you reckon, WILL BE WAITING TILL "atla" CLARIFIES what 'this' IS, EXACTLY.

3. I have NEVER EVER RUN AWAY FROM ANY thing, here.

4. It IS FAR SIMPLER and FAR EASIER TO EXPLAIN some 'thing', when one INFORMS what the 'thing' IS, EXACTLY.

5. OBVIOUSLY I MADE, AT LEAST, THREE CLAIMS. So, IF "atla" EVER CLARIFIES what 'it' WANTS 'me' TO INFORM 'it' of HOW I KNOW, then "atla" WILL JUST CLARIFY.

But, "atla" does NOT WANT things TO CHANGE, here. "atla" OBVIOUSLY HAS AN AGENDA, which it is 'TRYING' its HARDEST TO ACCOMPLISH, and ACHIEVE, here. So, this IS WHY it does NOT CLARIFY things, here. its OWN GOAL, here, has DISABLED its ABILITY TO ANSWER, and CLARIFY, OPENLY and Honestly, here.
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