Why Do the Religious Reject Science While Embracing the Impossible?

[Alexis Jacobi]

If you asked my opinion I’d say that is a rudimentary definition.

Why, may I ask, do you hold to the assessment that I “do not know what seriousness is”?

[Atla]

If you asked my opinion I’d say that is a rudimentary definition.

Why, may I ask, do you hold to the assessment that I “do not know what seriousness is”?

I see your forum activity as basically just a half-random kind of fooling around, wishful thinking. It's not actually serious and yet at the same time you seem to be taking it seriously and expect others to take it seriously. It's a weird contradiction. Maybe it's a kind of escapism.

[Alexis Jacobi]

Oh how very wrong you are. It is neither “half-random” nor “wishful thinking”.

Are you not projecting?

[Alexiev]

If you asked my opinion I’d say that is a rudimentary definition.

Why, may I ask, do you hold to the assessment that I “do not know what seriousness is”?

I see your forum activity as basically just a half-random kind of fooling around, wishful thinking. It's not actually serious and yet at the same time you seem to be taking it seriously and expect others to take it seriously. It's a weird contradiction. Maybe it's a kind of escapism.

Isn't it possible to take fooling around and wishful thinking seriously? Can't comedians be serious about comedy?

[Alexis Jacobi]

It's not actually serious and yet at the same time you seem to be taking it seriously and expect others to take it seriously. It's a weird contradiction. Maybe it's a kind of escapism.

If I knew where to escape to I might give it a go. No, no, I am stuck here with the likes of you.

I am glad you brought this up though. I have never mentioned it but I come from a long lineage of professional jesters and clowns and I mean this literally. The pratfall is old hat so to speak. My grandparents worked the Vaudeville circuit and were, in their day, quite well-known.

I remember my bubbe used to say “Shkotz ton oftn bavayzn nbyaim” which is, I think, a line from Shakespeare: “Jesters do oft prove prophets”.

I am unsure if you are aware, I mean really aware, of what it is like to be burdened with an obsessive tendency to irony. I’ve worked much of this through in therapy, though it was hard to find a completely non-ironical therapist who’d take my problem seriously. Eventually I found a grave grave Englishman who actually had no sense of humor.

Needless to say I made rapid progress …

The other thing is that as a child I became fascinated with “el claqué” (tap-dancing) and became quite proficient at it. So I think that affects my communication style (?)

I try to tone it down to a philosophical soft-shoe but the flamboyance always intrudes.

Still I hope you will regard me as deadly serious as indeed I really am.

[Dubious]

First, you certainly misunderstand why what is “metaphysical” is really of vital importance to preserve. You might disagree with the means by which metaphysics and complex symbols are drafted into and, say, abused by religious maniacs, but not all are maniacs.

You may consider the metaphysical as something to preserve; I think of it as something to advance.

And you, my drooling friend, should know this.

Are you so desperate to insult your superiors!

I have been thinking about your comments about the mass-madness of the American multitude. I have been reading Gustav Le Bon’s The Crowd and also remembering your asinine, ill-informed and dopish judgments of Ortega y Gassett’s The Revolt of the Masses.

Thank you! It's nice to be remembered!

Your critique of Trump, the lower-level, mindless, impulsive and profoundly unreasoned action of America’s underclasses, is precisely related to the madness of crowds and intellectual bankruptcy.

From what I recall, you said you were going to vote for him.

You don’t drool when listening to the finest of the finest, do you?!

I try very hard not to but I always have a paper towel handy, just in case!

All of these creations depend ABSOLUTELY on the realization of metaphysical categories.

Finally, the first non-nonsensical statement in your post! For your edification allow me to explain the difference between your brand of metaphysics and mine as previously explained.

...and yes! I absolutely agree with you here...but only on the surface. Metaphysics for you is a system gathered, as mentioned from bits and pieces like Frankenstein's monster based on whatever book you're reading; for me it's the additional layer of MIND upon the physical substratum as the first priority of existence itself, regardless of ALL what it may or may not produce in consequence.

Metaphysics, as I reckon, is an ongoing saga of the mind's exploration into its own workings and accomplishments, never to be identified as final. In couplet form...

What it means to be human has yet to unfold
no god can declare but by man must be told.

The realms of the sacred exist on a plain
forever renewing and never the same.

For me, your brand of metaphysics is tantamount to mental claustrophobia.

This is a really REALLY dim-witted sentence, m’boy, and unless you walk it back toot sweet you will have to be severely intellectually beaten. I have astounding tolerance but there are limits, even for me.

I can only hope and pray that under your consistent heavy onslaughts of deep intellectual ponderings my mind won't turn into a wreck like Dresden in 1945.

Or as Stephen Colbert would say, in the meantime Your intellectuality reveals itself as artificiality, bit and pieces, chunks of this or that, or whatever appeals to you based on your voluminous reading. You are decidedly unoriginal and uninspired.

[Alexis Jacobi]

From what I recall, you said you were going to vote for him.

Indeed. But the reason is because, as Steve Bannon pointed out, Trump is an “armor piercing shell”. And man, did he live up to the designation. Trump has inspired a world-level sea-change.

Unfortunately, all manner of different forces have conspired to dumb-down Americans. And it cannot be denied that Trump is a figure of that caliber. But that is deeply related to the ascent of the “mass-man” as Ortega y Gasset explains nicely.

It is quite possible that America has been lost. But Europe might still save itself.

In some battles, though one is destined to lose, you still fight as if you might win.

You are decidedly unoriginal and uninspired.

A couple of comments:

The first is that Traditionalism, and traditional values based in metaphysical principles, does not and cannot lay claim to innovation. So it is not a question of coming up with something new and exciting but rather cooly and seriously redefining what really has ultimate value and therefore what must be preserved.

Secondly, how one views the present determines a great deal. Admittedly, most of those I read are traditionalists and all have issues with the excesses of that present.

These are ideas that are surely outside of your comprehension capabilities, but I did tell you that I would force-feed you if you insisted.

[Gary Childress]

From what I recall, you said you were going to vote for him.

Indeed. But the reason is because, as Steve Bannon pointed out, Trump is an “armor piercing shell”. And man, did he live up to the designation. Trump has inspired a world-level sea-change.

You may be right. Maybe the US needs to socially implode after what our leaders have done to the world in the name of we the people. I don't think Trump is going to bring about positive changes (he seems to keep appointing the wrong people to high offices--at least he did in his first administration) but maybe someone after him will sort through the wreckage and find a silver lining somewhere in the mess to continue things off on a better foot. God help us all while we go through the process.

[Dubious]

These are ideas that are surely outside of your comprehension capabilities, but I did tell you that I would force-feed you if you insisted.

What is truly beyond my comprehension is how a nation whose Constitution, if not always its politics, once so universally admired could so diminish itself into the loathsome muck that is Donald Trump; to someone barely literate who can't even sign his name...a miserable miscreant of the highest order who should have a sign with TRAITOR hung around his neck then taken to the gallows and his ashes subsequently strewn into the nearest landfill as befits such a human abortion with no redeeming features whatsoever.

He is indeed an “armor piercing shell” against everything the West stands for and if just about everything goes wrong, quite possibly not ever to be mended, blame somebody else for it. Even in his 4th year, if he lasts that long, it's never too late to blame the Democrats or whatever is most handy...a crawling coward one can only spit at.

Even a dumbfucked American like you should understand that an “armor piercing shell” aimed in the wrong direction, not least against nature itself, is going to cause consequences the likes of which we have never seen.

What an incredible distortion that a tapeworm like you who want's to appear as a benevolent Pied Piper leading others into the mystical realms of metaphysics and higher orders of thought, retreats to the ideas of Steve Bannon in creating a new world order headed by a near illiterate cheeseburger brain, rancid, demented and insane!

So what's your excuse? If this is the best you can do feel free to join the vast legions of the zombie brain-dead or better still, go and hang yourself.

You are truly one miserable fucking fraud!

[Alexis Jacobi]

Hmmmm. Your case is more serious than I thought! So I had to call on the Oracle: Meta’s AI!

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[Atla]

Apparently, making America great again meant quickly turning it into a chaotic autoritharian regime led by a vengeful, senile clinical narcissist. The American dream is over. But that's nothing, the even bigger problem is the astonishing speed at which the US turns on its longstanding allies and helps its longstanding enemies to victory. This may very well have irreversible consequences. Well I hope the Trump-supporters are happy now.

[Belinda]

Apparently, making America great again meant quickly turning it into a chaotic autoritharian regime led by a vengeful, senile clinical narcissist. The American dream is over. But that's nothing, the even bigger problem is the astonishing speed at which the US turns on its longstanding allies and helps its longstanding enemies to victory. This may very well have irreversible consequences. Well I hope the Trump-supporters are happy now.

One pities them when they discover their hero is a fraud

[Alexis Jacobi]

Reading The Crowd by Gustave Le Bon, and then turning my attention back to the mindless views of those here who have really serious cases of Trump Derangement Syndrome, I have a few thoughts.

One, that it is an important fact that these days, and over a long period of time, and perhaps in especially senses, we have all come under the influence of crowd-psychology. The premise is that such psychological contagion is said to take over the personality and induce people to think and act in ways that they would not under *normal* circumstances. TDS is, I think, a clear case of both hysteria and the influence of mass-sentiment. It is extremely emoted, irrational, and dramatically clouds perception rendering people into imbeciles.

So if this is true then we certainly have to pay attention to everything that went on during that Summer of Anarchy during the George Floyd protests which were certainly exploited by media and as well by the *Democratic regime* for overt political ends. It also must be considered as a possibility that intelligence agencies were involved and that the tide of sentiment was manipulated, again for political ends. Yet simultaneously with those events, and the evidence of mass-psychological contagion that aroused so much irrational discord and hatred, so too the political Right came under the influence of similar mass-hysteria. Briefly then, the whole period has been one of hysterical, social outbreak. If there is one major and dominating influence it seems to me that it must be located in something hysteria-like.

Therefore and as a result, it seems to me that it is quite hard to *get to the bottom* of things and to accurately achieve a sound understanding of what happened, why it happened, what is going on now, what it means, and of course where it tends. If I had to rely on any one of those so strongly under the influence of hysterical TDS I certainly would not expect balanced and rational assessment. By nature the hysterical crowd is incapable of such cool and careful analysis.

In my view, what I have outlined here is — a general statement to describe a general condition — must be presented as a statement to induce *stepping back* from hysterical perceptions (which so often seem like projections of disturbed inner content) and to the recovery of a capability of *seeing clearly* and one hopes somewhat rationally, to the degree that this is achievable.

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[Alexis Jacobi]

There are three major areas that have to be considered:

1) The social hysteria that produced a DEI mass-hysteria. I use *diversity equity and inclusion* in the most general sense. It is really a complex phenomenon. This has to be analyzed — if indeed there is a *person* still left inside the burnt-out shells of those who opine here who is capable of genuine analysis — and examined through the lens of mass-hysterical conflagration and psychological contagion. It must needs be understood the degree to which the entire manifestion was stimulated and manipulated by Intelligence operatives. Which also involves an analysis of the mechanisms of mass-control that have been so highly developed in the US.

2) A close analysis of what actually happened during those events of January 6th. There is a major development here. It is that it is now understood, or perhaps I should say it is in the process of being uncovered and revealed, that January 6th was an “Op” conducted by paramilitary agencies (intelligence agencies) and most notably the FBI. How one described this Op requires great care. When it is understood, or when one begins to think through the ramifications and implications of such an Op that planned to take advantage of a riot (which indeed it was) for political purposes and in service to the regime in power, how one views it changes.

3) The real story about the War in Ukraine; why it was *engineered* and how the public perceptions of it was and still is highly manipulated.

[Atla]

Apparently, making America great again meant quickly turning it into a chaotic autoritharian regime led by a vengeful, senile clinical narcissist. The American dream is over. But that's nothing, the even bigger problem is the astonishing speed at which the US turns on its longstanding allies and helps its longstanding enemies to victory. This may very well have irreversible consequences. Well I hope the Trump-supporters are happy now.

One pities them when they discover their hero is a fraud

I feel like we are past the point where they deserve pity.