Challenge to VA: FSKs are a Language Game

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Eodnhoj7
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Re: Challenge to VA: FSKs are a Language Game

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:13 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:48 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:46 am
What are you talking about?
I have already compared the FSK to Wittgenstein's Language Game, here.
viewtopic.php?t=41861
Yes, a FSK is like a language game but having more elements besides linguistic elements.
If not, why?

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My principle:
Reality - all there [facts, knowledge, truth, ..] is contingent upon a human-based [collective of subjects] framework and system [FS] of emergence and reality of which the scientific FS is the most credible and objective, i.e. the gold standard.
viewtopic.php?t=43232

Whatever is a scientific FS is credible and objective as accepted by all scientists. How can it be contradictory?
If so, there will not be any objective scientific facts or truth that is contingent upon the scientific FS.

Note Model Dependent Realism [a scientific FS]:


Suggest you ask your AI to critique the above by posting the above in full.
I am very interested in your AI's response.
Good, then your FSKs are subjective and create the chaos they are hypocritically negating.
Suggest you ask your AI to critique the above by posting the above in full.
I am very interested in your AI's response.

For discussion sake, why don't you do the above?
No you use your AI so you have the advantage...you will need it.

I won't do the above because I don't need to and I know you need the training wheels. In shorter terms: nauseating pity.
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Re: Challenge to VA: FSKs are a Language Game

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:15 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:13 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:48 am

Good, then your FSKs are subjective and create the chaos they are hypocritically negating.
Suggest you ask your AI to critique the above by posting the above in full.
I am very interested in your AI's response.

For discussion sake, why don't you do the above?
No you use your AI so you have the advantage...you will need it.

I won't do the above because I don't need to and I know you need the training wheels. In shorter terms: nauseating pity.
Those species and individuals who strive to use tools are highly praised as advancing.
It is very stupid if one do not use tools optimally.
LLM is a useful tool for the advancement of one's knowledge.
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Re: Challenge to VA: FSKs are a Language Game

Post by Eodnhoj7 »

Veritas Aequitas wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:34 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:15 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:13 am
Suggest you ask your AI to critique the above by posting the above in full.
I am very interested in your AI's response.

For discussion sake, why don't you do the above?
No you use your AI so you have the advantage...you will need it.

I won't do the above because I don't need to and I know you need the training wheels. In shorter terms: nauseating pity.
Those species and individuals who strive to use tools are highly praised as advancing.
It is very stupid if one do not use tools optimally.
LLM is a useful tool for the advancement of one's knowledge.
Those who need excessive tools are stupid...calculators are for the weak minded...and alot are weak.

Fire is fire regardless of rubbing two sticks or using a lighter...the sticks are quite natural...the lighter less so.

Go ahead...copy and paste what I said into AI and then I will respond to it.
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Re: Challenge to VA: FSKs are a Language Game

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:50 am
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:37 am
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:09 am I'm still waiting for the Points and Lines FSK-proper. It would be the crown jewel of human intellectual achievement.
Or better yet,

POINTS and LINES FSK-proper, BACK when THIS was WRITTEN.
Yeah...you have "the foundation of everything is occurence" thread. Go ahead and try to troll "occurence".
Umm okay I'll try to troll "occurence". :?
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Re: Challenge to VA: FSKs are a Language Game

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VA where is your AI response to my points?
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