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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:48 pm
Age wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:29 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:19 pm

If you want to communicate better, then you should probably use the phrase "WE human beings".
WHY would 'I' WANT TO DISTORT the IRREFUTABLE Truth to just PLEASE you adult human beings, ALONE.

LOL One day you MIGHT RECOGNIZE and SEE that the VERY REASON WHY you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, WERE STILL LOOKING and SEARCHING FOR the Truth of things IS and WAS BECAUSE you CONTINUALLY SAID, WROTE, and USED False AND Wrong phrases.
So you are not an "adult human"?
ONCE AGAIN, 'I' am being TOLD what 'I' AM NOT. But, with a question mark at the end of the STATEMENT and CLAIM.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:48 pm You are a human who has not yet reached adulthood, is that correct?
ONCE MORE, WHEN the words 'you', 'I', 'me' are DISCUSSED and who and what 'those words' are REFERRING TO, EXACTLY, is AGREED UPON and ACCEPTED, then, and ONLY THEN, what 'I' WILL SAY, here, be Truly UNDERSTOOD and COMPREHENDED.

REMEMBER "gary childress" 'you' STILL have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA NOR CLUE as to WHO and WHAT the word 'I' IS, EXACTLY.

Until 'you' can ANSWER, properly and Correctly, the question, 'Who AM 'I'?' EXACTLY who and what 'you' ARE, and who and what the word 'you' IS REFERRING TO, EXACTLY, is UNKNOWN BY 'you'.

ALSO, A 'human' is VERY, VERY DIFFERENT FROM A 'human being'.

AGAIN, what the ACTUAL DEFINITIONS ARE, FOR the words being USED, are FULLY DISCLOSED and KNOWN, BY 'BOTH parties', then MISCOMMUNICATION and MISUNDERSTANDING WILL PREVAIL.
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Age wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:12 pm ALSO, A 'human' is VERY, VERY DIFFERENT FROM A 'human being'.
How is a "human" very different from a "human being"?

Are you an adult human being?
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Age wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:39 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:19 pm I was born today
at the ripe old age
of 57

And when I go to sleep
I'll just repeat
until I'm 58

But if 58
I don't make
before I end

Then I say goodbye
to this life
and all my friends
As "accelafine" noted, you REALLY DO SEEK OUT 'sympathy' A LOT MORE than others DO.

But, 'sympathy' IS NOT 'empathy', and in regards to living and Life, Itself, HAVING 'one' INSTEAD OF 'the other' OUTSHINES TREMENDOUSLY in regards to MAKING A MUCH BETTER LIFE, FOR EVERY one.
I guess no one else here faces the problem of having to die someday? It's impossible for all of us to empathize with each other by virtue of a shared destiny?

Yes. Yes. I know. "Think positive. Be thankful. Only say positive things". The rest of us don't want to be reminded that we're all mortal.
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:13 pm
Age wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:12 pm ALSO, A 'human' is VERY, VERY DIFFERENT FROM A 'human being'.
How is a "human" very different from a "human being"?
To me, the 'human' word refers to the visible body, generally the one known as the 'human body'. Whereas, the 'human being' words refer to the visible body part as well as the invisible thinking and emotional parts.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:13 pm Are you an adult human being?
Would it matter and have absolutely ANY bearing on ANY thing, here?

If yes, then HOW and WHY, EXACTLY?
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:05 pm
Age wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:39 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:19 pm I was born today
at the ripe old age
of 57

And when I go to sleep
I'll just repeat
until I'm 58

But if 58
I don't make
before I end

Then I say goodbye
to this life
and all my friends
As "accelafine" noted, you REALLY DO SEEK OUT 'sympathy' A LOT MORE than others DO.

But, 'sympathy' IS NOT 'empathy', and in regards to living and Life, Itself, HAVING 'one' INSTEAD OF 'the other' OUTSHINES TREMENDOUSLY in regards to MAKING A MUCH BETTER LIFE, FOR EVERY one.
I guess no one else here faces the problem of having to die someday? It's impossible for all of us to empathize with each other by virtue of a shared destiny?

Yes. Yes. I know. "Think positive. Be thankful. Only say positive things". The rest of us don't want to be reminded that we're all mortal.
I am NOT SURE what you are SAYING, and IMPLYING or MEANING, here.
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Age wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:51 am
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:13 pm
Age wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:12 pm ALSO, A 'human' is VERY, VERY DIFFERENT FROM A 'human being'.
How is a "human" very different from a "human being"?
To me, the 'human' word refers to the visible body, generally the one known as the 'human body'. Whereas, the 'human being' words refer to the visible body part as well as the invisible thinking and emotional parts.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:13 pm Are you an adult human being?
Would it matter and have absolutely ANY bearing on ANY thing, here?

If yes, then HOW and WHY, EXACTLY?
If you are an adult human being then you might communicate better by using term "we adult human beings" or if you want to blame other adults for problems in the world, then say "some of you adult human beings" are behaving badly (or whatever). Otherwise, you sound holier than every human being on Earth, which is unlikely. Not all adult human beings are the same. For example, your response about "you" adult human beings seeking money and profit maybe doesn't really apply to me. I've turned down opportunities that would have been very financially beneficial to me because I didn't think they were ethical jobs.
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Age wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:53 am
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:05 pm
Age wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:39 pm

As "accelafine" noted, you REALLY DO SEEK OUT 'sympathy' A LOT MORE than others DO.

But, 'sympathy' IS NOT 'empathy', and in regards to living and Life, Itself, HAVING 'one' INSTEAD OF 'the other' OUTSHINES TREMENDOUSLY in regards to MAKING A MUCH BETTER LIFE, FOR EVERY one.
I guess no one else here faces the problem of having to die someday? It's impossible for all of us to empathize with each other by virtue of a shared destiny?

Yes. Yes. I know. "Think positive. Be thankful. Only say positive things". The rest of us don't want to be reminded that we're all mortal.
I am NOT SURE what you are SAYING, and IMPLYING or MEANING, here.
You ASSUMED I was looking for "sympathy". How am I seeking personal sympathy from others when my poem contained the theme of death, which EVERY ONE of us will have to face eventually, not just me, unless I am somehow special and excluded from being mortal unlike everyone else (something I see no reason to believe). Why should anyone "sympathize" with me over something we ALL will face equally?
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attofishpi wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:50 am
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:38 am
attofishpi wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:07 am

Gazza, all u need to do now is think of an apt form of non-human life that reminds u of accelafine. Let's have a larf (*let rip)

God hath been very generous with options..

8)
I feel I should mercifully spare her from my acerbic wit. She might not be able to handle it and cry. :)
No, she has no capacity for crying.

Years ago the sage told me crying is how we show our love. She does not love :D
Did you manage to get banned again already? That must be some kind of record :lol:
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:03 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:51 am
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:13 pm

How is a "human" very different from a "human being"?
To me, the 'human' word refers to the visible body, generally the one known as the 'human body'. Whereas, the 'human being' words refer to the visible body part as well as the invisible thinking and emotional parts.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:13 pm Are you an adult human being?
Would it matter and have absolutely ANY bearing on ANY thing, here?

If yes, then HOW and WHY, EXACTLY?
If you are an adult human being then you might communicate better by using term "we adult human beings" or if you want to blame other adults for problems in the world, then say "some of you adult human beings" are behaving badly (or whatever).
But why say 'some' when it is ALL?

Otherwise, you sound holier than every human being on Earth, which is unlikely.[/quote]

Have I EVER suggested to you, BEFORE, to SEEK OUT and OBTAIN ACTUAL CLARIFICATION and ACTUAL CLARITY BEFORE you even BEGIN to START TO ASSUME ABSOLUTELY ANY THING?

See, if you OBTAINED ACTUAL CLARITY, FIRST, then INSTEAD IF some thing SOUNDING like it is the case, you would KNIW, FOR SURE, what the ACtUAL Truth IS, EXACTLY.
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:03 am Not all adult human beings are the same. For example, your response about "you" adult human beings seeking money and profit maybe doesn't really apply to me. I've turned down opportunities that would have been very financially beneficial to me because I didn't think they were ethical jobs.
But, you were and still are seeking more money, correct?.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:08 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:53 am
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:05 pm

I guess no one else here faces the problem of having to die someday? It's impossible for all of us to empathize with each other by virtue of a shared destiny?

Yes. Yes. I know. "Think positive. Be thankful. Only say positive things". The rest of us don't want to be reminded that we're all mortal.
I am NOT SURE what you are SAYING, and IMPLYING or MEANING, here.
You ASSUMED I was looking for "sympathy".
VERY GOOD OBSERVATION.
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:08 am How am I seeking personal sympathy from others when my poem contained the theme of death, which EVERY ONE of us will have to face eventually, not just me, unless I am somehow special and excluded from being mortal unlike everyone else (something I see no reason to believe).
Are you, here, saying that you were, or were NOT seeking sympathy?

Oh and by the way, you human beings do NOT ACTUALLY 'die'. But, obviously, one would HAVE TO BE OPEN and Honest to COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND this IRREFUTABLE Fact.
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:08 am Why should anyone "sympathize" with me over something we ALL will face equally?
Were 'you' aware of just how much of that poem is ABOUT 'you', ALONE?

'you' were USING the 'I' word in regards TO the one, here, known as "gary childress", right?
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Age wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:36 pm 'Reality', Itself, (with a capital 'R'), IS JUST 'that', what ALL, REALLY, WANT, (and DESIRE), and to which what they ALL WANT TO MAKE, REALLY HAPPEN, and OCCUR. Or, JUST CREATE.
That's a cute belief, but can you prove it? Or is it just your wishful thinking and megalomania?
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Atla wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:22 am
Age wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:36 pm 'Reality', Itself, (with a capital 'R'), IS JUST 'that', what ALL, REALLY, WANT, (and DESIRE), and to which what they ALL WANT TO MAKE, REALLY HAPPEN, and OCCUR. Or, JUST CREATE.
That's a cute belief, but can you prove it? Or is it just your wishful thinking and megalomania?
What are you even on about, here, EXACTLY?

What, EXACTLY, is, SUPPOSEDLY, a laughingly called 'cute belief', here?

What are you ASKING me if I can prove, EXACTLY?

Until you CLARIFY, I have NO idea as to what you are referring TO, EXACTLY.
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Age wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:54 am But, you were and still are seeking more money, correct?.
Everyone has to have some money including you, Age. Should we just sit here and starve to death?
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Age wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:40 am
Atla wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:22 am
Age wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:36 pm 'Reality', Itself, (with a capital 'R'), IS JUST 'that', what ALL, REALLY, WANT, (and DESIRE), and to which what they ALL WANT TO MAKE, REALLY HAPPEN, and OCCUR. Or, JUST CREATE.
That's a cute belief, but can you prove it? Or is it just your wishful thinking and megalomania?
What are you even on about, here, EXACTLY?

What, EXACTLY, is, SUPPOSEDLY, a laughingly called 'cute belief', here?

What are you ASKING me if I can prove, EXACTLY?

Until you CLARIFY, I have NO idea as to what you are referring TO, EXACTLY.
That's funny because I quoted it.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:39 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:54 am But, you were and still are seeking more money, correct?.
Everyone has to have some money including you, Age. Should we just sit here and starve to death?
ONCE AGAIN, this CLOSED or VERY NARROWED views and/or perspective of things was what 'I' HAD TO 'DEAL WITH', BACK in the 'olden days' when this WAS being written.

ONCE MORE "gary childress" the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth IS:
you human beings have lived for thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of years WITHOUT money.
Which MEANS, IRREFUTABLY, that you human beings do NOT NEED money.
Which then MEANS that what you just SAID and CLAIMED, here, is False, Wrong, Inaccurate, AND Incorrect.

Which then MEANS your ALREADY SILLY QUESTION is MORE STUPID and RIDICULOUS. In Fact your question, here, is ACTUALLY TOTALLY MOOT.

Did the tens of billions of human beings who, OBVIOUSLY, EXISTED BEFORE just you relatively 'few' human beings, in the days when this is being written, and which CAUSED and CREATED you human beings who are 'currently' living 'now', 'JUST SIT HERE and STARVE TO DEATH'?

'The adult human beings', in the days when this was being written, had become SO LOST, SO CONFUSED, and SO DISILLUSIONED that they ACTUALLY BELIEVED that they, literally, could NOT live and survive WITHOUT 'money', of ALL things.

And, what is WORSE is that some of these adults LAUGH AT children when children SAY and/or BELIEVE that they could NOT live and survive WITHOUT phones, computers, and/or the internet, while ALSO SAYING and BELIEVING that they "themselves" could NOT live and survive WITHOUT money.

It is like they are COMPLETELY OBVIOUS to the Fact that in relatively NO 'time' AT ALL the children, in the days when this is being written, will, literally, be adults BELIEVING, ABSOLUTELY, and 'TRYING TO' SAY and CLAIM TO others 'we NEED the internet and computers in order to live and survive'.

LOL Some of them will even when just DISCUSSING things WILL SAY, CLAIM, and ASK things like;

Everyone has to have electricity, phones, and/or the internet, including you, [the other one in the discussion]. Should we just sit here and die?

After all it is some of the children 'of today', when this is being written, who are ACTUALLY starting to BELIEVE that they, literally, can NOT live and survive WITHOUT 'their phones'.

Which is EXACTLY LIKE some of the adults 'of today', when this is being written, who ACTUALLY DO BELIEVE that they, literally, can NOT live and survive WITHOUT 'money'.
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