FDP, Justify Your 'What is Fact' is Really Real?

[Veritas Aequitas]

Well there is a group that might take interest in the FSK thing: religious fundamentalists. For example one could use two FSKs: the Quran-FSK and an FSK-rating-FSK that rates the Quran-FSK at 100% and other stuff below 30%. So this way the Quran-FSK produces absolutely true facts. Works for any religion.

As I had worked out,
if the scientific FS is taken as the gold standard and indexed at 100/100 objectivity, then any theistic FS which is not grounded on the empirical [high weightage] would be rated at say, 0.01/100 because it is not grounded on the empirical like the empirical-based science FS.
If based on FS-truth, then the theistic FS, i.e. Quran-FS would be rated as 0.01/100 true, i.e. highly false on the true/false continuum.

[Atla]

Well there is a group that might take interest in the FSK thing: religious fundamentalists. For example one could use two FSKs: the Quran-FSK and an FSK-rating-FSK that rates the Quran-FSK at 100% and other stuff below 30%. So this way the Quran-FSK produces absolutely true facts. Works for any religion.

As I had worked out,
if the scientific FS is taken as the gold standard and indexed at 100/100 objectivity, then any theistic FS which is not grounded on the empirical [high weightage] would be rated at say, 0.01/100 because it is not grounded on the empirical like the empirical-based science FS.
If based on FS-truth, then the theistic FS, i.e. Quran-FS would be rated as 0.01/100 true, i.e. highly false on the true/false continuum.

And if we take the Quran-FSK as the gold standard and indexed at 100% objectivity, the Science-FSK will maybe get 30%. The only real use of your FSK philosophy will be to empower the religious nutjobs.

[FlashDangerpants]

Well there is a group that might take interest in the FSK thing: religious fundamentalists. For example one could use two FSKs: the Quran-FSK and an FSK-rating-FSK that rates the Quran-FSK at 100% and other stuff below 30%. So this way the Quran-FSK produces absolutely true facts. Works for any religion.

As I had worked out,
if the scientific FS is taken as the gold standard and indexed at 100/100 objectivity, then any theistic FS which is not grounded on the empirical [high weightage] would be rated at say, 0.01/100 because it is not grounded on the empirical like the empirical-based science FS.
If based on FS-truth, then the theistic FS, i.e. Quran-FS would be rated as 0.01/100 true, i.e. highly false on the true/false continuum.

And if we take the Quran-FSK as the gold standard and indexed at 100% objectivity, the Science-FSK will maybe get 30%. The only real use of your FSK philosophy will be to empower the religious nutjobs.

It's a good point. I always worked the notion that if we were mad enough to take the FSK thing seriously, we could easily spawn as many of them as we need to support every random opinion every passing idiot can come up with. But I never really noticed you could do exactly the same to the meta-FSK-things as well, and have a different ranking FSK for everyone who disputes VA's personal set of choices in the one that is only official for as long as the FSK sorting game his alone and nobody else in the world is playing.

[Atla]

As I had worked out,
if the scientific FS is taken as the gold standard and indexed at 100/100 objectivity, then any theistic FS which is not grounded on the empirical [high weightage] would be rated at say, 0.01/100 because it is not grounded on the empirical like the empirical-based science FS.
If based on FS-truth, then the theistic FS, i.e. Quran-FS would be rated as 0.01/100 true, i.e. highly false on the true/false continuum.

And if we take the Quran-FSK as the gold standard and indexed at 100% objectivity, the Science-FSK will maybe get 30%. The only real use of your FSK philosophy will be to empower the religious nutjobs.

It's a good point. I always worked the notion that if we were mad enough to take the FSK thing seriously, we could easily spawn as many of them as we need to support every random opinion every passing idiot can come up with. But I never really noticed you could do exactly the same to the meta-FSK-things as well, and have a different ranking FSK for everyone who disputes VA's personal set of choices in the one that is only official for as long as the FSK sorting game his alone and nobody else in the world is playing.

VA never really noticed it either, even after I occasionally pointed it out to him. VA's life work, his contribution to humanity, is his crusade against Islam, and his crusade's instrument is the FSK philosophy.

Except the only thing his FSK philosophy might be good for is to empower Islam more, maybe finally turn it into the dominant religion on the planet. That would be VA's real contribution.

The religious people will automatically rank their respective holy texts as the gold standard of truth and objectivity, and adding "FSK-proper" to it will just give it more legitimacy.

[Veritas Aequitas]

Well there is a group that might take interest in the FSK thing: religious fundamentalists. For example one could use two FSKs: the Quran-FSK and an FSK-rating-FSK that rates the Quran-FSK at 100% and other stuff below 30%. So this way the Quran-FSK produces absolutely true facts. Works for any religion.

As I had worked out,
if the scientific FS is taken as the gold standard and indexed at 100/100 objectivity, then any theistic FS which is not grounded on the empirical [high weightage] would be rated at say, 0.01/100 because it is not grounded on the empirical like the empirical-based science FS.
If based on FS-truth, then the theistic FS, i.e. Quran-FS would be rated as 0.01/100 true, i.e. highly false on the true/false continuum.

And if we take the Quran-FSK as the gold standard and indexed at 100% objectivity, the Science-FSK will maybe get 30%. The only real use of your FSK philosophy will be to empower the religious nutjobs.

That is being going on implicitly since religions emerged.
Every religion will claim their truths from God are the greatest and absolute; every other claim of knowledge [comparative reality] are inferior and false.

The ultimate bastion of the FSK approach is based on intellectual capacity, rationality and critical thinking and the related criteria therefrom.
The critical criteria that the scientific FS is the most credible and objective is its reliance on empirical evidence, testability, results repeatable while religions do not meet any of these critical requirements.

As such those who insist irrational faith based claims of reality are absolute true and superior over scientific based knowledge are delusional. If you think Islam-FSK should be rated 100% and science-FSK 30%, you are more delusional.

Note the reality where religion, e.g. Vatican had conceded certain very contentious scientific truths are valid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_a ... lic_Church#:

According to the Dalai Lama, if science proves a Buddhist belief to be wrong, then Buddhism should accept the findings of science and change its view; essentially stating that science should be considered the ultimate authority when it comes to verifiable truths about reality, and that religion should adapt accordingly. Google-Search AI

[Atla]

As I had worked out,
if the scientific FS is taken as the gold standard and indexed at 100/100 objectivity, then any theistic FS which is not grounded on the empirical [high weightage] would be rated at say, 0.01/100 because it is not grounded on the empirical like the empirical-based science FS.
If based on FS-truth, then the theistic FS, i.e. Quran-FS would be rated as 0.01/100 true, i.e. highly false on the true/false continuum.

And if we take the Quran-FSK as the gold standard and indexed at 100% objectivity, the Science-FSK will maybe get 30%. The only real use of your FSK philosophy will be to empower the religious nutjobs.

That is being going on implicitly since religions emerged.
Every religion will claim their truths from God are the greatest and absolute; every other claim of knowledge [comparative reality] are inferior and false.

The ultimate bastion of the FSK approach is based on intellectual capacity, rationality and critical thinking and the related criteria therefrom.
The critical criteria that the scientific FS is the most credible and objective is its reliance on empirical evidence, testability, results repeatable while religions do not meet any of these critical requirements.

As such those who insist irrational faith based claims of reality are absolute true and superior over scientific based knowledge are delusional. If you think Islam-FSK should be rated 100% and science-FSK 30%, you are more delusional.

Note the reality where religion, e.g. Vatican had conceded certain very contentious scientific truths are valid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_a ... lic_Church#:

According to the Dalai Lama, if science proves a Buddhist belief to be wrong, then Buddhism should accept the findings of science and change its view; essentially stating that science should be considered the ultimate authority when it comes to verifiable truths about reality, and that religion should adapt accordingly. Google-Search AI

You poor fool. That ultimate bastion is philosophical realism: we use empirical evidence, testability, repeatable results to build a picture of the universal mind-independent world. That's exactly what you've thrown out, your FSK thing has no universal ultimate bastion. For a Muslim the ultimate bastion will be the Quran-FSK and so on.

Yes the Dalai Lama talks about verifiable truths about reality, so he's a p-realist according to you.

Then again you don't even know what philosophical realism means, you think it means transcendental realism. Poor fool twice over.

[FlashDangerpants]

The ultimate bastion of the FSK approach is based on intellectual capacity, rationality and critical thinking and the related criteria therefrom.

Only according to the FSK that you are in charge of and which only you consider "credible". Anybody else can make their own FSK for deciding what critical thinking is, and whether it is more important than "correct faith" or any other shit. There's nothing to make any FSK better than any other except a circular dependency on your own FSK thing that you reckon can manufacture truth out of imaginings and nothing more.