X is Not X Therefore X

What is the basis for reason? And mathematics?

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Re: X is Not X Therefore X

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Flannel Jesus wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:14 pm
Fairy wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:14 am
This is the most profound thing I've ever seen you write. Actually, might be the most, or one of the most, profound things I've ever seen on this forum at all. I think there's something to this. I think that this framing of paradoxes is, if not true, at least touching close to some truths.
Yes, thanks, bearing in mind that paradoxes are only descriptive ideas. And only true as a frame of reference, as defined, ie: as a description of what it is that is being discussed, which can only be illusory conjecture. In other words, a mental construct. Since there is no experience of a ''Knower'' while paradoxically, there is ''Knowing'' albeit illusory.

For example: Paradoxes don't exist in the natural universe because a paradox is a contradiction in our descriptions of the universe, not contradictions in the Universe itself. So Art in fact is simply the universe itself as it naturally is, while the nature of this universe, is by definition, an illusory descriptive of it, which is an ARTificial representation.

The 'knower' is a metaphysical concept, meaning 'knowing' is illusory. Knowledge is division, which is the nature of the mind. The natural, is effortless and already the case without existence or separation. The mind of course cannot grasp there is no separation, because what can the mind do with nothing, the mind has to construct something, for any concept to make sense, and that is knowledge.

And yet, even the mind is illusory, because the mind is simply nothing constructing something, albeit illusory, but real nonetheless, as the concept is known by nothing. Nothing knows itself, so to speak.

Nothing knows itself is a paradox within knowledge only, but this paradox in knowledge, is not a natural paradox, it's artificial.
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Impenitent wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:48 pm if X isn't X, the treasure is elsewhere

how many pirates were literate anyway?

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Re: X is Not X Therefore X

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:56 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:52 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:32 pm

The toe is completely bound to circumstance for it being able to be dipped in the river allows it to exist through change.
Toe gist ≠ Toe jam
Two different contexts of 'toe' results in two different toes.
Where I goes, there I is.
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Re: X is Not X Therefore X

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Walker wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:41 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:56 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:52 pm
Toe gist ≠ Toe jam
Two different contexts of 'toe' results in two different toes.
Where I goes, there I is.
Each I occurs differently as the act of paying attention differs....but your not wrong either and that leads to the 'I' as the foundational paradox.
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Re: X is Not X Therefore X

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:57 am
Walker wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:41 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:56 pm

Two different contexts of 'toe' results in two different toes.
Where I goes, there I is.
Each I occurs differently as the act of paying attention differs....but your not wrong either and that leads to the 'I' as the foundational paradox.
Oh my Gosh, that's incredible insight Eod. Love that, oh my god, that's just...oh, I can't, I just can't...!!!

Sending ya'll, A big fat ''Whoa'' Face.
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