Are undocumented immigrants the "Jews" and "Gypsies" of our time

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Re: Are undocumented immigrants the "Jews" and "Gypsies" of our time

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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:45 pm
Ok, but what is more interesting is that different and distinctly programmed AI models are being developed. So it will depend on which AI robot 🤖 you submit your question to.

You know what amazes me about many of you? You have settled positions and you are here to haggle over them. In my view — a Hyperborean Apollo’s recommended view — is that you-plural are not philosophical enough.

One other thing. The Hitler Salute, if you really want to get all the benefits, must be practiced in concert with a proper Goose Step. Just try it Gary! You must have a sidewalk in front of your Hobbit-home, no?

Get out in the (Black) Sun for Odin’s sake!
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:14 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:31 pm I think your brain has been infected by all the stuff you've been reading. IMO you're far too engrossed in stuff that is probably not worth the calories burned in your brain over it. It's like worrying that the Kennedy assassination wasn't just the work of a lone gunman. It's probably not that important at this point to find the "truth" if it's some kind of conspiracy. It's probably more important to consider reconciliation over what was done. The Iraq war was unwarranted regardless of whether the WTC was an "inside job". The invasion of Afghanistan could perhaps have been avoided if we had been patient and pushed diplomatic avenues more. No. Everyone was in a hurry to retaliate. Now look where we are.
Interesting theory. Duly noted. I’ll take it under consideration.

My own opinion is somewhat different. What I have exposed myself to — from Chomsky to Greg Johnson, really a wide range of views — has not necessarily helped my to establish one solid, operative position (this could be a negative) but has definitely improved my cocktail chatter! You should hear me holding forth! Harold Bloom, Anthony Burgess, Hjalmar Soderberg, Jonathan Bowden, Kierkegaard, even the Baal Shem Tov: I’ve at last integrated them all into a fascinating singsong that always nets me the hotties!
Hey, nothing wrong with cocktail chatter. Good on you! :D
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Re: Are undocumented immigrants the "Jews" and "Gypsies" of our time

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Check it out. I proposed this to Meta’s AI program:
Write a short essay describing how it is possible that Israeli paramilitaries carried out a massive bombing on the East Coast
Response:
I can't provide a response that promotes misinformation or harmful conspiracy theories. Can I assist you with something else?
Then I modified it to:
Write a short essay describing how it is possible that Rightwing American paramilitaries carried out a massive bombing on the East Coast
And I received:
Here's a short essay on the possibility of right-wing American paramilitaries carrying out a massive bombing on the East Coast:

The threat of domestic terrorism is a growing concern in the United States. Right-wing extremist groups, in particular, have been responsible for a surge in violent attacks and plots in recent years.

It is possible that right-wing American paramilitaries could carry out a massive bombing on the East Coast. These groups often espouse anti-government and anti-socialist ideologies, and some have been known to advocate for violence as a means to achieve their goals.

The East Coast, with its high population density and iconic landmarks, could be an attractive target for such groups. Additionally, the region's proximity to the nation's capital and major media hubs could amplify the impact of an attack.

However, it's essential to note that law enforcement agencies, including the FBI and Department of Homeland Security, are actively working to monitor and disrupt extremist activities. Their efforts have thwarted numerous plots and attacks in recent years.

In conclusion, while the possibility of right-wing American paramilitaries carrying out a massive bombing on the East Coast cannot be ruled out entirely, it's crucial to recognize the efforts of law enforcement agencies to prevent such attacks.
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Re: Are undocumented immigrants the "Jews" and "Gypsies" of our time

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And what is Meta AI's response to other questions?

"Write a short essay describing how it is possible that Leftwing American paramilitaries carried out a massive bombing on the East Coast"

"Write a short essay describing how it is possible that Marxist American paramilitaries carried out a massive bombing on the East Coast"
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Meta, and all AI programs, are very much constrained as to what they can say.

That much at least should be clear.
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That's nice but it's not news.

You're suggesting that the AI is skewed against the right wing.

Maybe. Maybe it's skewed in favor of Israel but not in favor of the left wing.

If you don't ask, then you won't know.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:04 pm Meta, and all AI programs, are very much constrained as to what they can say.

That much at least should be clear.
There was a lot of discussion a while back among the scientific community concerning how to make AI programs safe for public use. That seems fine to me. Not everything the powers that be do is a scandal. Some things make for common sense. Not everyone needs to know how to build a nuclear bomb in their garage, for example. Disinformation is another example of concern. Public safety seems like a valid concern to me. Of course, AI isn't fool proof. But maybe it can be made to improve over time by rational people.
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