A Possible Explanation to the Phenomenon of "Telepathy"

[chaz wyman]

Fire is wet, confusion is order, male is female, ground is sky, disfunction is efficiency: all likely utterances of many contemporary political animals, and you applaud it all.

Yes, doubt has its place, but when it stands in the place of assuredness something is certainly rotten in Denmark.

Judging on the first sentence, there is something rotten in the state of your mind/brain.

Deep.

What happens if their doubt is a big shiny positive thing?

[Bernard]

You have noticed the political speak that embelishes a negative with its positive opposite?

[Arising_uk]

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The best experiences I had were through studying modern shamanism, itself based on ancient Mexican shamanism, via Carlos Castaneda's work and seminars. Its a a very exigent and formal lifestyle that I was fortunate to get a real window into through practice and involvement with others. One of the keystone techniques is the recapitulation in which one exhaustively lists everyone one has known from the present to the past. Its a meditation practice with a simple breathing technique recapitulate the interactions. This may take years, and has several purposes. Primarily it restores energy that has become knotted up through interaction. The process expunges unnecessary social habits and behaviours and leaves one with free energy with which to access and explore unknown possibilities. Many things occured which I would not go near mentioning here, but instances of projecting over distances voiced words and sentences were not uncommon and something I experienced myself. ...

Thank you, as you're about the first upon this forum(excepting MagnetMan) who is willing to provide some background and technique.
For myself I think NC NLP supersedes your approach, they too like Castanada.
p.s.
I doubt your explanations of why the process works.

[Arising_uk]

Fire is wet, confusion is order, male is female, ground is sky, disfunction is efficiency: all likely utterances of many contemporary political animals, and you applaud it all. ...

Do I? Show me where. I think you'll find that its "Dry is wet" or "Fire is water".

Yes, doubt has its place, but often it stands in the place of belief. ...

Depends if the belief is doubtful or not I'd guess.

"The cynical man is left with nothing but a potato - a friggin' potato!"

- Don Juan Matus.

At least he can eat. And a marvelous thing the spud is indeed! Boiled, mashed, roasted, fried, I'd venture to say its up there with pasta and noodles. Ask the Irish.

[Bernard]

Fire is wet, confusion is order, male is female, ground is sky, disfunction is efficiency: all likely utterances of many contemporary political animals, and you applaud it all. ...

Do I? Show me where. Everytime you partake of the same speech, as above, when you basically say doubt is belief I think you'll find that its "Dry is wet" or "Fire is water".No, I have my own mind and poetic sense, like it or lump it!

Yes, doubt has its place, but often it stands in the place of belief. ...

Depends if the belief is doubtful or not I'd guess.

Then its not belief. If white is filled with black what colour is it? White... unless you remove the black from it.

"The cynical man is left with nothing but a potato - a friggin' potato!"

- Don Juan Matus.

At least he can eat. And a marvelous thing the spud is indeed! Boiled, mashed, roasted, fried, I'd venture to say its up there with pasta and noodles. Ask the Irish.

Especially the Dutch Cream variety. But your point is stupid. The main inflection of the saying says that the non-cynical man can bypass a potato that would cost him his well-being to attain. He is confident in his ability to gain his sustenance elsewhere.

[Arising_uk]

Do I? Show me where. Everytime you partake of the same speech, as above, when you basically say doubt is belief I think you'll find that its "Dry is wet" or "Fire is water".No, I have my own mind and poetic sense, like it or lump it!

Lump it appears to be the case. You'll have to quote me where I said doubt is belief? As I hold a few beliefs and its because I find them reasonably undoubtable.

Then its not belief. If white is filled with black what colour is it? White... unless you remove the black from it.

Sorry, I've realised I have no idea what you mean by doubt standing in the place of belief. What do you mean by this? That we should believe things even if they are in doubt?

With respect to your question, its black or a shade of grey.

Especially the Dutch Cream variety. But your point is stupid. The main inflection of the saying says that the non-cynical man can bypass a potato that would cost him his well-being to attain. He is confident in his ability to gain his sustenance elsewhere.

Did it? Must have been better in context. My take is that the cynical man would have his potato as sustenence thereby allowing his proven ability to find more sustenance elsewhere. Is the quote missing some background, i.e. some danger associated with gaining the potato?

[chaz wyman]

Fire is wet, confusion is order, male is female, ground is sky, disfunction is efficiency: all likely utterances of many contemporary political animals, and you applaud it all. ...

Do I? Show me where. Everytime you partake of the same speech, as above, when you basically say doubt is belief I think you'll find that its "Dry is wet" or "Fire is water".No, I have my own mind and poetic sense, like it or lump it!

Yes, doubt has its place, but often it stands in the place of belief. ...

Depends if the belief is doubtful or not I'd guess.

Then its not belief. If white is filled with black what colour is it? White... unless you remove the black from it.

"The cynical man is left with nothing but a potato - a friggin' potato!"

- Don Juan Matus.

At least he can eat. And a marvelous thing the spud is indeed! Boiled, mashed, roasted, fried, I'd venture to say its up there with pasta and noodles. Ask the Irish.

Especially the Dutch Cream variety. But your point is stupid. The main inflection of the saying says that the non-cynical man can bypass a potato that would cost him his well-being to attain. He is confident in his ability to gain his sustenance elsewhere.

I think it has got to the stage where you need to step back and re-read your own words in a calm and considered way.















WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU ARE BLATHERING ON ABOUT??????????????????????????????

[Bernard]

AUK, you said that

What happens if their doubt is a big shiny positive thing

. In this sentence, I believed, you were basically equating belief with doubt.

Sorry, I've realised I have no idea what you mean by doubt standing in the place of belief.

One word: Usurption.

Did it? Must have been better in context. My take is that the cynical man would have his potato as sustenence thereby allowing his proven ability to find more sustenance elsewhere. Is the quote missing some background, i.e. some danger associated with gaining the potato?

I said some possible danger, as is inherent to cynicism... in my opinion of course. Good to see you enjoying that potato.

[Arising_uk]

In this sentence, I believed, you were basically equating belief with doubt. ...

Ah! You don't have big, dark, gloomy beliefs?

One word: Usurption. ...

Of what? You don't believe you have a doubt.

I said some possible danger, as is inherent to cynicism... in my opinion of course. Good to see you enjoying that potato.

Yum! Gratin dauphinois tonight. You not eating?

[Bernard]

Beliefs aren't dark if they are true. Certainly I have doubts, but they don't stand as beliefs.

Did you need a hand with that tater?

[chaz wyman]

Beliefs aren't dark if they are true. Certainly I have doubts, but they don't stand as beliefs.

I believe I am going to die. How is that not dark? Unless you think it false?

Did you need a hand with that tater?

[Arising_uk]

Beliefs aren't dark if they are true. Certainly I have doubts, but they don't stand as beliefs.

Neither do mine but I believe that Europe may be heading for fascism again and its not a bright shiny belief.

Did you need a hand with that tater?

Nah! I believe in your self-assurance that you can sustain yourself. And that is a bright shiny one.
p.s.
Beliefs aren't really to do with truth and falsity. As if they are true then they are facts or knowledge not beliefs. Just an opinion.

[Bernard]

Beliefs aren't dark if they are true. Certainly I have doubts, but they don't stand as beliefs.

I believe I am going to die. How is that not dark? Unless you think it false?

Did you need a hand with that tater?

For me, its a positive thing that I'm not going to live forever.

[chaz wyman]

Beliefs aren't dark if they are true. Certainly I have doubts, but they don't stand as beliefs.

I believe I am going to die. How is that not dark? Unless you think it false?

Did you need a hand with that tater?

For me, its a positive thing that I'm not going to live forever.

No, that is a delusion.

Just like the idea that you are going to live forever.
Your life is the unity of the history of the individual - in this sense your life is forever, and the whole world dies when you do.

[Bernard]

I don't feel anything but positive on the whole with the fact I am going to die. Living forever would be much worse, think of the boredom!