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Re: Infinite and eternal

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Atla wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 3:46 pm
Much lower percentages than before, the caps lock isn't glowing red hot anymore, it barely makes any smoke now. Some of the cultists thought that we were done for, but we may yet live to see another day. Hooray!
Objection! ⬇️

No 'caps lock' was EVER used in the forming of said capital letters within the posts written by the author who goes by the name of Age.
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Re: Infinite and eternal

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Fairy wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:38 pm
Age wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:32 pm
Fairy wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:18 pm

I do not see where I am making an inaccurate assumption and conclusion.

Can you show me where I am making the mistake?
When one writes words in capital letters, on a computer, one can USE the 'caps lock' key. i have NEVER USED the 'caps lock' when writing, here, in this forum. In fact I do not even know if there is a 'caps lock' key on this computer.

So, i have NEVER USED the 'caps lock', WHEN I have been USING 'capital letters', here.

Can you 'now' SEE WHERE you have been MISSING things, here, and MAKING A MISTAKE?
Yes, now that you’ve explained it, I can understand what you wrote when you said you didn’t use the caps lock key.
Okay, that is good, but I have said and written, previously, here in this thread and in other threads, I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock'.
Fairy wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:38 pm I understand that it was only an assumption made, but not literally true. However you could have just made it clear at the time you responded to atla… saying you don’t use the caps lock key.
In my response to "atla", here in this thread, I ACTUALLY did say and write, I have INFORMED you, PREVIOUSLY, I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock', here.

I am NOT SURE HOW I could have responded ANY MORE CLEARER. If you notice I ACTUALLY EMPHASIZED the INFORMED, PREVIOUS, and NEVER USED words, in relation to the 'caps lock'.

So, WHY, EXACTLY, did you say and write that 'I' could have just made it clear at the time I responded to "atla"... saying I do not use the caps lock key?

Again, HOW could I have made it CLEARER?

Fairy wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:38 pm
People just assume one uses caps lock key when writing in capitals…it’s a common assumption. So it’s not unusual to make the assumption.
Okay, and by the way, I KNEW 'this' ALREADY.

In case you have NOT YET NOTICED, A MESSAGE that I have been EXPRESSING, here, in this forum, is: DO NOT ASSUME ABSOLUTELY ANY thing.

I have, ALSO, been saying and writing, READ, only, just the ACTUAL WORDS that I SAY, WRITE, and USE, here, ONLY, WITHOUT ASSUMING NOR BELIEVING absolutely ANY thing.

For example, if you READ, only, the ACTUAL WORDS that I SAID, WROTE, and USED, here, WHEN I SAID and WROTE;
I have INFORMED you, PREVIOUSLY, I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock', here, WITHOUT ANY ASSUMPTIONS, NOR PRE-EXISTING BELIEFS, AT ALL, then you WOULD HAVE SEEN, and UNDERSTOOD, EXACTLY, what I was ACTUALLY MEANING. And, VERY CLEARLY, I will add.

AGAIN, I WRITE, and USE words, in A VERY SPECIFIC WAY, so that WHEN, FINALLY, what I have been SAYING, and MEANING, ALL ALONG, is FULLY UNDERSTOOD, then what is ALSO SEEN, and UNDERSTOOD, on RE-READINGS is that I HAD BEEN ACTUALLY OVER-EMPHASIZING 'SOME WORDS' MORE than OTHER WORDS, so that 'they' WOULD STAND OUT.
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Re: Infinite and eternal

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Atla wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 3:46 pm
Age wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:45 pm Okay, great.

Well, and as I was SAYING and POINTING OUT, previously, CLAIMING that 'matter' changes when observed is a VERY, VERY DIFFERENT CLAIM FROM CLAIMING 'people' change when observed. That is 'what'.

What are 'particles', exactly?

And, 'particles' are particles of 'what', exactly?

If I recall correctly I have asked you, more or less, this exact same clarifying question, previously.

'Particles' have only the ONE name. Just like 'matter' has ONLY the ONE name.

A 'bunch' of 'matter' group together to form an 'object', however, can go by many names, like, for example, a 'human body', a 'star', a 'planet', a 'table', a 'spoon', or a 'fork'.

Just for reference it is NOT YET a PROVED Fact that 'people', "themselves", are actually made up of 'matter', itself.

Now, obviously human bodies are made up of 'matter', but you, 'people', "yourselves", are NOT actually the 'human bodies', themselves, right? Or, do 'you' SEE and CLASS the 'human body', itself, as a 'person'?

And, AGAIN, I have ASKED you TO CLARIFY HOW A 'table', for experience, CHANGES 'its' behavior, EXACTLY, when 'it' is being observed?

I, STILL, WAIT.

Now, AGAIN, 'matter', itself, or 'particles', themselves, do NOT have MANY names, AT ALL.

What I have SHOWN and POINTED OUT, here in this post, as well as IN my OTHER posts and responses, TO you, in this thread.

1. Really THINK ABOUT what the word 'particles' are REFERRING TO, EXACTLY.

2. THINK ABOUT how it is NOT 'particles', themselves, that have MANY names.

3. THINK ABOUT how it is ONLY a 'conglomerate' of 'particles', (of what 'they' are, exactly), in some shape or form, which is WHEN you, human beings, THEN PLACE other names, or labels, ONTO 'that shape' or 'form'. Which, again, and by the way, is HOW and WHY there is ONLY a PERCEIVED SEPARATION of the One and ONLY, existing. It is FROM the forming and making up of MANY 'names', and then PLACING THOSE names, or labels, CONCEPTUALLY ONLY onto DIFFERENT shapes or forms of 'joined particles OF matter' WHY the ILLUSION OF SEPARATION EXISTS. But, and again, this is the ONLY WAY the human brain MAKES SENSE of where it has FOUND itself.
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Much lower percentages than before, the caps lock isn't glowing red hot anymore, it barely makes any smoke now. Some of the cultists thought that we were done for, but we may yet live to see another day. Hooray!
'This thread' WAS ABOUT, what it WAS ABOUT. However, BECAUSE some people can NOT REFUTE NOR COUNTER what the TOPIC OF DISCUSSION, IS ABOUT, they RESORT TO DECEPTIVE and DECEITFUL TACTICS, to 'TRY TO' DEFLECT.

As can be CLEAR SEEN, here, ONCE AGAIN, by this poster, here, known as "atla".

And, LOL, it OBVIOUSLY does NOT READ, and COMPREHEND, as it, STILL, BELIEVES, ABSOLUTELY that the 'caps lock' IS BEING USED.
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Re: Infinite and eternal

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Fairy wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:03 am
Atla wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 3:46 pm
Much lower percentages than before, the caps lock isn't glowing red hot anymore, it barely makes any smoke now. Some of the cultists thought that we were done for, but we may yet live to see another day. Hooray!
Objection! ⬇️

No 'caps lock' was EVER used in the forming of said capital letters within the posts written by the author who goes by the name of Age.
Thank you "fairy".

Now, the Universe is infinite AND eternal, and FOR some of the REASONS I have PROVIDED, above here.

And, if absolutely ANY one would like to SEE and KNOW the FURTHER, and IRREFUTABLE PROOFS, then let 'us' just HAVE A DISCUSSION.
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Re: Infinite and eternal

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Age wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:09 am Okay, that is good, but I have said and written, previously, here in this thread and in other threads, I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock'.

In my response to "atla", here in this thread, I ACTUALLY did say and write, I have INFORMED you, PREVIOUSLY, I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock', here.

I am NOT SURE HOW I could have responded ANY MORE CLEARER. If you notice I ACTUALLY EMPHASIZED the INFORMED, PREVIOUS, and NEVER USED words, in relation to the 'caps lock'.

So, WHY, EXACTLY, did you say and write that 'I' could have just made it clear at the time I responded to "atla"... saying I do not use the caps lock key?

Again, HOW could I have made it CLEARER?

Okay, and by the way, I KNEW 'this' ALREADY.

In case you have NOT YET NOTICED, A MESSAGE that I have been EXPRESSING, here, in this forum, is: DO NOT ASSUME ABSOLUTELY ANY thing.

I have, ALSO, been saying and writing, READ, only, just the ACTUAL WORDS that I SAY, WRITE, and USE, here, ONLY, WITHOUT ASSUMING NOR BELIEVING absolutely ANY thing.

For example, if you READ, only, the ACTUAL WORDS that I SAID, WROTE, and USED, here, WHEN I SAID and WROTE;
I have INFORMED you, PREVIOUSLY, I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock', here, WITHOUT ANY ASSUMPTIONS, NOR PRE-EXISTING BELIEFS, AT ALL, then you WOULD HAVE SEEN, and UNDERSTOOD, EXACTLY, what I was ACTUALLY MEANING. And, VERY CLEARLY, I will add.

AGAIN, I WRITE, and USE words, in A VERY SPECIFIC WAY, so that WHEN, FINALLY, what I have been SAYING, and MEANING, ALL ALONG, is FULLY UNDERSTOOD, then what is ALSO SEEN, and UNDERSTOOD, on RE-READINGS is that I HAD BEEN ACTUALLY OVER-EMPHASIZING 'SOME WORDS' MORE than OTHER WORDS, so that 'they' WOULD STAND OUT.
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This one has a mild start, but then things go super bad. The CAPS LOCK is screaming in pain.
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Re: Infinite and eternal

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Age wrote: “In my response to "atla", here in this thread, I ACTUALLY did say and write, I have INFORMED you, PREVIOUSLY, I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock', here.

I am NOT SURE HOW I could have responded ANY MORE CLEARER. If you notice I ACTUALLY EMPHASIZED the INFORMED, PREVIOUS, and NEVER USED words, in relation to the 'caps lock'.

So, WHY, EXACTLY, did you say and write that 'I' could have just made it clear at the time I responded to "atla"... saying I do not use the caps lock key?

Again, HOW could I have made it CLEARER?”


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Response: You Age, did not make it clear.

People assuming you used “caps lock key” was a natural assumption seeing that there are many capitals used in most of your posts.
It wouldn’t have occurred to people that you don’t use “caps lock” unless you stated specifically that you write in capitals using another method that is not the usual “caps lock” method.

The fact has transpired that you use alternative method to write your capitals….but you never explained to others what that alternative method was, so people could only assume the obvious method which is to use “caps lock”

The confusion arose because you didn’t make yourself clear.
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Re: Infinite and eternal

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Atla wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:15 am
Age wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:09 am Okay, that is good, but I have said and written, previously, here in this thread and in other threads, I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock'.

In my response to "atla", here in this thread, I ACTUALLY did say and write, I have INFORMED you, PREVIOUSLY, I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock', here.

I am NOT SURE HOW I could have responded ANY MORE CLEARER. If you notice I ACTUALLY EMPHASIZED the INFORMED, PREVIOUS, and NEVER USED words, in relation to the 'caps lock'.

So, WHY, EXACTLY, did you say and write that 'I' could have just made it clear at the time I responded to "atla"... saying I do not use the caps lock key?

Again, HOW could I have made it CLEARER?

Okay, and by the way, I KNEW 'this' ALREADY.

In case you have NOT YET NOTICED, A MESSAGE that I have been EXPRESSING, here, in this forum, is: DO NOT ASSUME ABSOLUTELY ANY thing.

I have, ALSO, been saying and writing, READ, only, just the ACTUAL WORDS that I SAY, WRITE, and USE, here, ONLY, WITHOUT ASSUMING NOR BELIEVING absolutely ANY thing.

For example, if you READ, only, the ACTUAL WORDS that I SAID, WROTE, and USED, here, WHEN I SAID and WROTE;
I have INFORMED you, PREVIOUSLY, I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock', here, WITHOUT ANY ASSUMPTIONS, NOR PRE-EXISTING BELIEFS, AT ALL, then you WOULD HAVE SEEN, and UNDERSTOOD, EXACTLY, what I was ACTUALLY MEANING. And, VERY CLEARLY, I will add.

AGAIN, I WRITE, and USE words, in A VERY SPECIFIC WAY, so that WHEN, FINALLY, what I have been SAYING, and MEANING, ALL ALONG, is FULLY UNDERSTOOD, then what is ALSO SEEN, and UNDERSTOOD, on RE-READINGS is that I HAD BEEN ACTUALLY OVER-EMPHASIZING 'SOME WORDS' MORE than OTHER WORDS, so that 'they' WOULD STAND OUT.
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This one has a mild start, but then things go super bad. The CAPS LOCK is screaming in pain.
ONCE AGAIN, this one MAKES COMPLETELY False AND Wrong ASSUMPTIONS. LOL 'worrying' AND now 'pain'.

AND, OBVIOUSLY, it does NOT even READ, and COMPREHEND - 'caps lock'. LOL To think that one has NOTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO, then to just MAKE UP 'graphs', and then 'TRY' and USE them. But, that is WHAT HAPPENS to throw who HAVE and HOLD ONTO BELIEFS, ABSOLUTELY. They, literally, can NOT 'SEE', and 'UNDERSTAND', ANY thing that PROVES their ALREADY OBTAINED BELIEFS False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect.
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Re: Infinite and eternal

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Fairy wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:15 am Age wrote: “In my response to "atla", here in this thread, I ACTUALLY did say and write, I have INFORMED you, PREVIOUSLY, I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock', here.

I am NOT SURE HOW I could have responded ANY MORE CLEARER. If you notice I ACTUALLY EMPHASIZED the INFORMED, PREVIOUS, and NEVER USED words, in relation to the 'caps lock'.

So, WHY, EXACTLY, did you say and write that 'I' could have just made it clear at the time I responded to "atla"... saying I do not use the caps lock key?

Again, HOW could I have made it CLEARER?”


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Response: You Age, did not make it clear.

People assuming you used “caps lock key” was a natural assumption seeing that there are many capitals used in most of your posts.
It wouldn’t have occurred to people that you don’t use “caps lock” unless you stated specifically that you write in capitals using another method that is not the usual “caps lock” method.

The fact has transpired that you use alternative method to write your capitals….but you never explained to others what that alternative method was, so people could only assume the obvious method which is to use “caps lock”

The confusion arose because you didn’t make yourself clear.
ONCE AGAIN, for the VERY, VERY SLOW OF LEARNERS, I SPEAK and WRITE in a VERY PARTICULAR WAY to EMPHASIZE the Fact that the VERY REASON WHY you human beings, here, in the days when this is being written, are VERY, VERY SLOW AT 'CATCHING UP' IS BECAUSE you ASSUME things BEFORE you ACTUALLY SEEK OUT and OBTAIN AND GAIN ACTUAL CLARIFICATION, FIRST.

SEE, ONLY WHEN you human beings START SEEKING OUT CLARIFICATION, FIRST, then, ACTUALLY, what I have been SAYING, and WRITING, IS VERY CLEAR.

LOL Even AFTER I WRITE WORDS like, ' I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock', ', some people WILL CHOOSE TO PRESUME I HAVE, FIRST.

Thus, WHY 'those ones' WITH BELIEFS and PRESUMPTIONS can NOT SEE, and KEEP MISSING, the ACTUAL Truth of things.

And, as for 'the confusion' that people like "atla" HAVE, then this is NOT MY FAULT.

It is NOT up to me NOR ANY one ELSE to PRE/ASSUME what another is PRE/ASSUMING, and then to PRESUME what the other NEEDS 'CLEARED UP'.

Absolutely NONE OF you ASKED me for CLARIFICATION ABOUT what is 'it' that I ACTUALLY DO. people just kept PRESUMING I USE/D the 'caps lock' key. And, LOL this was even AFTER I HAVE KEPT INFORMING, here, that I have NEVER USED the 'caps lock', here.

Is 'this' DISCUSSION, about USING capital letters SOME TIMES, REALLY, what INTERESTS you people, here, in A 'philosophy forum', of ALL PLACES?

I have ALREADY EXPLAINED that I do 'this' to just EMPHASIZE SOME words, ONLY.
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Re: Infinite and eternal

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Unless you state clearly why you don’t use caps lock to others who clearly see capital letters have been used, then they can only presume caps lock has been used.

You never told anyone you used alternative to caps lock so they couldn’t know what you know. So they could only presume you used caps lock, because you hadn’t told them why you don’t use caps lock, you only told them you don’t use them.

You were missing some important information,, that’s why people could only assume what you were doing. Because they didn’t have the full picture, you didn’t show the full picture, you kept half of it hidden, and you have a habit of doing that, that’s why people have difficulty in communicating with you.
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