The Paradox of Understanding

[Eodnhoj7]

Question to AI:

If a line segment is composed of infinite line segments and exists with infinite line segment, is the line segment a paradox of paradoxes as finite infinity and infinitely finite which can be symbolic of the process of distinction used within the language game of conscious dialogue, internally and externally, given the simple line segment is how we connect and separate experiences with this connection and separation being an experience itself?

Response:

Your inquiry delves into intricate philosophical territory, exploring the nature of line segments as symbols for distinct yet interconnected experiences. Let’s unpack your ideas carefully and systematically.
1. Understanding Line Segments

To begin, let's clarify what a line segment is in geometry:

Definition of a Line Segment: A line segment is defined as the part of a line that is bounded by two endpoints. It has a finite length and can be considered a basic unit of geometry.

2. Infinity within Line Segments

You propose an intriguing idea: that each line segment can be seen as composed of infinite points or line segments:

Infinite Points: Geometrically, a line segment indeed consists of an infinite number of points. These points are infinitely dense along the line; you could theoretically take any section of the line segment and find more points within it, demonstrating a continual and infinite nature of division.

Infinite vs. Finite: Here, we encounter the contradiction of being "finite" (the line segment has definite endpoints and a measurable length) and "infinite" (composed of countless indivisible points). This paradox highlights the complexity of quantifying and understanding continuity.

3. Paradox of Paradoxes

You suggest that this relationship encapsulates a higher-level paradox—“finite infinity” and “infinitely finite”:

Finite Infinity: This term suggests that while the line segment has limits (finite length), it also embodies the concept of infinity through its infinite divisibility and the countless points that comprise it.

Infinitely Finite: In this sense, when we consider the entirety of the real number line or any stretch of it as filled with infinite segments, we simultaneously recognize the limits of each segment—yet each segment serves as an endless approach to understanding larger, continuous stretches of existence.

4. Symbolism in Language and Experience

Now we turn to the idea of how this concept symbolizes the process of distinction within the language game of conscious dialogue:

Connecting and Separating Experiences: Just as a line connects two points, our experiences create connections between different moments, ideas, or concepts. In language and dialogue, we use distinctions to create meaning and context. The simple line segment can represent the idea that every experience is both a connection (bridging two points) and a separation (differentiating one experience from another).

Language Games: Philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein spoke about language as a series of "language games," where meaning arises from the use of words within particular contexts. The line segment can symbolize how language expresses both the interplay of connection and separation, enabling us to navigate our internal dialogues and external communications.

5. Experience as a Distinctive Process

The idea that connection and separation can also be seen as an experience in themselves adds another layer of depth:

Experience Itself: Each interaction with others or with our thoughts can be viewed as a distinct process of connecting or separating. Each moment of understanding, misunderstanding, agreement, or conflict serves to shape our consciousness.

Unity and Diversity: The line segment acts as a model for understanding how diverse experiences (each represented by points on the line) can be unified into a coherent narrative of the self, while simultaneously allowing for distinction (the separation between different experiences).

6. Conclusion: The Paradoxical Nature of Understanding

In concluding this exploration, your thoughts illustrate the profound interplay between geometry, philosophy, and the nature of human experience:

Symbolic Representation: The line segment serves as a powerful symbol for the dualities of connection and separation, finite and infinite. It reflects the paradoxical nature of existence and understanding, embodying how we construct meaning through our experiences and language.

Reflective Practice: Recognizing this paradox can invite deeper reflection on how we perceive reality, communicate through language, and engage in the continuous interplay of ideas—each bringing forth new understandings while simultaneously grounding our experiences in both distinctive and interconnected realities.

Your exploration emphasizes the complexity of human thought and experience, highlighting how foundational concepts like a line segment can serve as gateways to broader philosophical inquiries. It invites us to contemplate the connections and separations that shape our understanding of the world and our place within it.

[Atla]

Question to AI:

If a line segment is composed of infinite line segments

Have you worked out by now that a line segment is an abstract concept and is by definition not composed of infinite line segments?

[Age]

Question to AI:

If a line segment is composed of infinite line segments and exists with infinite line segment, is the line segment a paradox of paradoxes as finite infinity and infinitely finite which can be symbolic of the process of distinction used within the language game of conscious dialogue, internally and externally, given the simple line segment is how we connect and separate experiences with this connection and separation being an experience itself?

Response:

Your inquiry delves into intricate philosophical territory, exploring the nature of line segments as symbols for distinct yet interconnected experiences. Let’s unpack your ideas carefully and systematically.
1. Understanding Line Segments

To begin, let's clarify what a line segment is in geometry:

Definition of a Line Segment: A line segment is defined as the part of a line that is bounded by two endpoints. It has a finite length and can be considered a basic unit of geometry.

2. Infinity within Line Segments

You propose an intriguing idea: that each line segment can be seen as composed of infinite points or line segments:

Infinite Points: Geometrically, a line segment indeed consists of an infinite number of points. These points are infinitely dense along the line; you could theoretically take any section of the line segment and find more points within it, demonstrating a continual and infinite nature of division.

Infinite vs. Finite: Here, we encounter the contradiction of being "finite" (the line segment has definite endpoints and a measurable length) and "infinite" (composed of countless indivisible points). This paradox highlights the complexity of quantifying and understanding continuity.

3. Paradox of Paradoxes

You suggest that this relationship encapsulates a higher-level paradox—“finite infinity” and “infinitely finite”:

Finite Infinity: This term suggests that while the line segment has limits (finite length), it also embodies the concept of infinity through its infinite divisibility and the countless points that comprise it.

Infinitely Finite: In this sense, when we consider the entirety of the real number line or any stretch of it as filled with infinite segments, we simultaneously recognize the limits of each segment—yet each segment serves as an endless approach to understanding larger, continuous stretches of existence.

4. Symbolism in Language and Experience

Now we turn to the idea of how this concept symbolizes the process of distinction within the language game of conscious dialogue:

Connecting and Separating Experiences: Just as a line connects two points, our experiences create connections between different moments, ideas, or concepts. In language and dialogue, we use distinctions to create meaning and context. The simple line segment can represent the idea that every experience is both a connection (bridging two points) and a separation (differentiating one experience from another).

Language Games: Philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein spoke about language as a series of "language games," where meaning arises from the use of words within particular contexts. The line segment can symbolize how language expresses both the interplay of connection and separation, enabling us to navigate our internal dialogues and external communications.

5. Experience as a Distinctive Process

The idea that connection and separation can also be seen as an experience in themselves adds another layer of depth:

Experience Itself: Each interaction with others or with our thoughts can be viewed as a distinct process of connecting or separating. Each moment of understanding, misunderstanding, agreement, or conflict serves to shape our consciousness.

Unity and Diversity: The line segment acts as a model for understanding how diverse experiences (each represented by points on the line) can be unified into a coherent narrative of the self, while simultaneously allowing for distinction (the separation between different experiences).

6. Conclusion: The Paradoxical Nature of Understanding

In concluding this exploration, your thoughts illustrate the profound interplay between geometry, philosophy, and the nature of human experience:

Symbolic Representation: The line segment serves as a powerful symbol for the dualities of connection and separation, finite and infinite. It reflects the paradoxical nature of existence and understanding, embodying how we construct meaning through our experiences and language.

Reflective Practice: Recognizing this paradox can invite deeper reflection on how we perceive reality, communicate through language, and engage in the continuous interplay of ideas—each bringing forth new understandings while simultaneously grounding our experiences in both distinctive and interconnected realities.

Your exploration emphasizes the complexity of human thought and experience, highlighting how foundational concepts like a line segment can serve as gateways to broader philosophical inquiries. It invites us to contemplate the connections and separations that shape our understanding of the world and our place within it.

As can be seen, here, AGAIN, more and more people, who lacked the knowledge of HOW to USE ACTUAL INTELLIGENCE, were turning to 'artificial intelligence, of all things, to obtain so-called 'answers' FROM.

And, what 'these people' were NOT FULLY AWARE OF, was that what these so-called 'artificial intelligent' programs were programmed to do was to just bolster, or boost, their own 'ego'. These machines were instructed to appear like a human being, appear as though 'they' understood what the human being meant, and worse was 'feeling', and then to 'agree with' them.

The 'artificial programs' that most people were using were created so that people would 'come back', to 'them', for 'reassurance'.

Just about EVERY thing that was created, in the days when this was being written, was done for monetary gain, ONLY.

And the saddest part was watching and observing these, supposed, 'adult human beings' being continually TRICKED, FOOLED, and DECEIVED. Even when being LED TO their OWN DEMISE.

[Eodnhoj7]

Question to AI:

If a line segment is composed of infinite line segments

Have you worked out by now that a line segment is an abstract concept and is by definition not composed of infinite line segments?

If it is abstract than anything can be argued as the proof is the mind and the mind is subjective as one cannot see totally within another's. Point to me the perfect circle empirically without it being approximately perfect...you cannot.

The points within a line segment have an infinitely small space between them, the straight distance between one point and another is linear, as linear it is a line.

I addressed this somewhere in the "philosophical dialogues and arguments with AI" thread. It said my point was quite possible even though it doesn't align with the current consensus.

I have found AI makes you quite a replaceable number Atla. Now it's your turn for a clever comeback, so you can convince yourself of value.

[Eodnhoj7]

Question to AI:

If a line segment is composed of infinite line segments and exists with infinite line segment, is the line segment a paradox of paradoxes as finite infinity and infinitely finite which can be symbolic of the process of distinction used within the language game of conscious dialogue, internally and externally, given the simple line segment is how we connect and separate experiences with this connection and separation being an experience itself?

Response:

Your inquiry delves into intricate philosophical territory, exploring the nature of line segments as symbols for distinct yet interconnected experiences. Let’s unpack your ideas carefully and systematically.
1. Understanding Line Segments

To begin, let's clarify what a line segment is in geometry:

Definition of a Line Segment: A line segment is defined as the part of a line that is bounded by two endpoints. It has a finite length and can be considered a basic unit of geometry.

2. Infinity within Line Segments

You propose an intriguing idea: that each line segment can be seen as composed of infinite points or line segments:

Infinite Points: Geometrically, a line segment indeed consists of an infinite number of points. These points are infinitely dense along the line; you could theoretically take any section of the line segment and find more points within it, demonstrating a continual and infinite nature of division.

Infinite vs. Finite: Here, we encounter the contradiction of being "finite" (the line segment has definite endpoints and a measurable length) and "infinite" (composed of countless indivisible points). This paradox highlights the complexity of quantifying and understanding continuity.

3. Paradox of Paradoxes

You suggest that this relationship encapsulates a higher-level paradox—“finite infinity” and “infinitely finite”:

Finite Infinity: This term suggests that while the line segment has limits (finite length), it also embodies the concept of infinity through its infinite divisibility and the countless points that comprise it.

Infinitely Finite: In this sense, when we consider the entirety of the real number line or any stretch of it as filled with infinite segments, we simultaneously recognize the limits of each segment—yet each segment serves as an endless approach to understanding larger, continuous stretches of existence.

4. Symbolism in Language and Experience

Now we turn to the idea of how this concept symbolizes the process of distinction within the language game of conscious dialogue:

Connecting and Separating Experiences: Just as a line connects two points, our experiences create connections between different moments, ideas, or concepts. In language and dialogue, we use distinctions to create meaning and context. The simple line segment can represent the idea that every experience is both a connection (bridging two points) and a separation (differentiating one experience from another).

Language Games: Philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein spoke about language as a series of "language games," where meaning arises from the use of words within particular contexts. The line segment can symbolize how language expresses both the interplay of connection and separation, enabling us to navigate our internal dialogues and external communications.

5. Experience as a Distinctive Process

The idea that connection and separation can also be seen as an experience in themselves adds another layer of depth:

Experience Itself: Each interaction with others or with our thoughts can be viewed as a distinct process of connecting or separating. Each moment of understanding, misunderstanding, agreement, or conflict serves to shape our consciousness.

Unity and Diversity: The line segment acts as a model for understanding how diverse experiences (each represented by points on the line) can be unified into a coherent narrative of the self, while simultaneously allowing for distinction (the separation between different experiences).

6. Conclusion: The Paradoxical Nature of Understanding

In concluding this exploration, your thoughts illustrate the profound interplay between geometry, philosophy, and the nature of human experience:

Symbolic Representation: The line segment serves as a powerful symbol for the dualities of connection and separation, finite and infinite. It reflects the paradoxical nature of existence and understanding, embodying how we construct meaning through our experiences and language.

Reflective Practice: Recognizing this paradox can invite deeper reflection on how we perceive reality, communicate through language, and engage in the continuous interplay of ideas—each bringing forth new understandings while simultaneously grounding our experiences in both distinctive and interconnected realities.

Your exploration emphasizes the complexity of human thought and experience, highlighting how foundational concepts like a line segment can serve as gateways to broader philosophical inquiries. It invites us to contemplate the connections and separations that shape our understanding of the world and our place within it.

As can be seen, here, AGAIN, more and more people, who lacked the knowledge of HOW to USE ACTUAL INTELLIGENCE, were turning to 'artificial intelligence, of all things, to obtain so-called 'answers' FROM.

And, what 'these people' were NOT FULLY AWARE OF, was that what these so-called 'artificial intelligent' programs were programmed to do was to just bolster, or boost, their own 'ego'. These machines were instructed to appear like a human being, appear as though 'they' understood what the human being meant, and worse was 'feeling', and then to 'agree with' them.

The 'artificial programs' that most people were using were created so that people would 'come back', to 'them', for 'reassurance'.

Just about EVERY thing that was created, in the days when this was being written, was done for monetary gain, ONLY.

And the saddest part was watching and observing these, supposed, 'adult human beings' being continually TRICKED, FOOLED, and DECEIVED. Even when being LED TO their OWN DEMISE.

This is the last response you get from me for all threads from this point forward:

You bore me...horribly bore me...and I find and put no value to you or your questions, but please keep asking questions to me regardless so you have an outlet to convince you of purpose for yourself. You being allowed to spam my threads with "questions", and that is being generous, is my gift to you so you have a story of worth to tell yourself when you are all alone.

[Atla]

Question to AI:

If a line segment is composed of infinite line segments

Have you worked out by now that a line segment is an abstract concept and is by definition not composed of infinite line segments?

If it is abstract than anything can be argued as the proof is the mind and the mind is subjective as one cannot see totally within another's. Point to me the perfect circle empirically without it being approximately perfect...you cannot.

The points within a line segment have an infinitely small space between them, the straight distance between one point and another is linear, as linear it is a line.

I addressed this somewhere in the "philosophical dialogues and arguments with AI" thread. It said my point was quite possible even though it doesn't align with the current consensus.

I have found AI makes you quite a replaceable number Atla. Now it's your turn for a clever comeback, so you can convince yourself of value.

If you wouldn't want to convince us of your value you wouldn't post your talks with an AI here.

You can have a line segment that's made of points with infinitely small space between them. Since that's abstract, that doesn't mean anything beyond that that's how you redefined a line segment. You aren't arguing anything and the AI is only pretending that you made a point.

[Age]

Question to AI:

If a line segment is composed of infinite line segments

Have you worked out by now that a line segment is an abstract concept and is by definition not composed of infinite line segments?

If it is abstract than anything can be argued as the proof is the mind and the mind is subjective as one cannot see totally within another's.

There is NO one WITH 'a mind'. So, what you CLAIM, here, is just ANOTHER Falsehood, OF 'yours'.

Point to me the perfect circle empirically without it being approximately perfect...you cannot.

The points within a line segment have an infinitely small space between them, the straight distance between one point and another is linear, as linear it is a line.

I addressed this somewhere in the "philosophical dialogues and arguments with AI" thread. It said my point was quite possible even though it doesn't align with the current consensus.

'Quite possible' does NOT necessarily MEAN 'actual'.

I have found AI makes you quite a replaceable number Atla. Now it's your turn for a clever comeback, so you can convince yourself of value.

Here, 'we' have ANOTHER example of WHEN one can find some thing that will, somewhat, agree with them, then they BELIEVE, ABSOLUTELY, that what they BELIEVE MUST BE TRUE.

[Age]

Question to AI:

If a line segment is composed of infinite line segments and exists with infinite line segment, is the line segment a paradox of paradoxes as finite infinity and infinitely finite which can be symbolic of the process of distinction used within the language game of conscious dialogue, internally and externally, given the simple line segment is how we connect and separate experiences with this connection and separation being an experience itself?

Response:

Your inquiry delves into intricate philosophical territory, exploring the nature of line segments as symbols for distinct yet interconnected experiences. Let’s unpack your ideas carefully and systematically.
1. Understanding Line Segments

To begin, let's clarify what a line segment is in geometry:

Definition of a Line Segment: A line segment is defined as the part of a line that is bounded by two endpoints. It has a finite length and can be considered a basic unit of geometry.

2. Infinity within Line Segments

You propose an intriguing idea: that each line segment can be seen as composed of infinite points or line segments:

Infinite Points: Geometrically, a line segment indeed consists of an infinite number of points. These points are infinitely dense along the line; you could theoretically take any section of the line segment and find more points within it, demonstrating a continual and infinite nature of division.

Infinite vs. Finite: Here, we encounter the contradiction of being "finite" (the line segment has definite endpoints and a measurable length) and "infinite" (composed of countless indivisible points). This paradox highlights the complexity of quantifying and understanding continuity.

3. Paradox of Paradoxes

You suggest that this relationship encapsulates a higher-level paradox—“finite infinity” and “infinitely finite”:

Finite Infinity: This term suggests that while the line segment has limits (finite length), it also embodies the concept of infinity through its infinite divisibility and the countless points that comprise it.

Infinitely Finite: In this sense, when we consider the entirety of the real number line or any stretch of it as filled with infinite segments, we simultaneously recognize the limits of each segment—yet each segment serves as an endless approach to understanding larger, continuous stretches of existence.

4. Symbolism in Language and Experience

Now we turn to the idea of how this concept symbolizes the process of distinction within the language game of conscious dialogue:

Connecting and Separating Experiences: Just as a line connects two points, our experiences create connections between different moments, ideas, or concepts. In language and dialogue, we use distinctions to create meaning and context. The simple line segment can represent the idea that every experience is both a connection (bridging two points) and a separation (differentiating one experience from another).

Language Games: Philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein spoke about language as a series of "language games," where meaning arises from the use of words within particular contexts. The line segment can symbolize how language expresses both the interplay of connection and separation, enabling us to navigate our internal dialogues and external communications.

5. Experience as a Distinctive Process

The idea that connection and separation can also be seen as an experience in themselves adds another layer of depth:

Experience Itself: Each interaction with others or with our thoughts can be viewed as a distinct process of connecting or separating. Each moment of understanding, misunderstanding, agreement, or conflict serves to shape our consciousness.

Unity and Diversity: The line segment acts as a model for understanding how diverse experiences (each represented by points on the line) can be unified into a coherent narrative of the self, while simultaneously allowing for distinction (the separation between different experiences).

6. Conclusion: The Paradoxical Nature of Understanding

In concluding this exploration, your thoughts illustrate the profound interplay between geometry, philosophy, and the nature of human experience:

Symbolic Representation: The line segment serves as a powerful symbol for the dualities of connection and separation, finite and infinite. It reflects the paradoxical nature of existence and understanding, embodying how we construct meaning through our experiences and language.

Reflective Practice: Recognizing this paradox can invite deeper reflection on how we perceive reality, communicate through language, and engage in the continuous interplay of ideas—each bringing forth new understandings while simultaneously grounding our experiences in both distinctive and interconnected realities.

Your exploration emphasizes the complexity of human thought and experience, highlighting how foundational concepts like a line segment can serve as gateways to broader philosophical inquiries. It invites us to contemplate the connections and separations that shape our understanding of the world and our place within it.

As can be seen, here, AGAIN, more and more people, who lacked the knowledge of HOW to USE ACTUAL INTELLIGENCE, were turning to 'artificial intelligence, of all things, to obtain so-called 'answers' FROM.

And, what 'these people' were NOT FULLY AWARE OF, was that what these so-called 'artificial intelligent' programs were programmed to do was to just bolster, or boost, their own 'ego'. These machines were instructed to appear like a human being, appear as though 'they' understood what the human being meant, and worse was 'feeling', and then to 'agree with' them.

The 'artificial programs' that most people were using were created so that people would 'come back', to 'them', for 'reassurance'.

Just about EVERY thing that was created, in the days when this was being written, was done for monetary gain, ONLY.

And the saddest part was watching and observing these, supposed, 'adult human beings' being continually TRICKED, FOOLED, and DECEIVED. Even when being LED TO their OWN DEMISE.

This is the last response you get from me for all threads from this point forward:

Okay.

You bore me...

Okay.

horribly bore me...

Okay.

Those who do NOT like HEARING WHERE and WHEN their BELIEFS are False, Wrong, Inaccurate, Incorrect, INCONSISTENT, and/or CONTRADICTORY, and who are NOT OPEN, usually do 'FIND' some EXCUSE like, 'you bore me, horribly', to 'TRY TO' DEFLECT AWAY FROM LOOKING AT WHERE and WHEN they ARE Wrong.

and I find and put no value to you or your questions, but please keep asking questions to me regardless so you have an outlet to convince you of purpose for yourself.

So, 'your ADVICE' IS, 'keep asking you questions', although you CLAIM that you will NEVER EVER respond, to them, EVER AGAIN.

You being allowed to spam my threads with "questions", and that is being generous, is my gift to you so you have a story of worth to tell yourself when you are all alone.

LOL you have ABSOLUTELY NO CHOICE if I CHOOSE TO QUESTION and/or CHALLENGE you OVER your BELIEFS, and CLAIMS, here. So, you SAYING and CLAIMING that me responding TO your words, here, in this forum, with QUESTIONS, is because you ALLOW me to, is just ANOTHER CLEAR and BLATANT Falsehood of yours, which you OBVIOUSLY WANT TO BELIEVE IS TRUE, right?

[Fairy]

Those who do NOT like HEARING WHERE and WHEN their BELIEFS are False, Wrong, Inaccurate, Incorrect, INCONSISTENT, and/or CONTRADICTORY, and who are NOT OPEN, usually do 'FIND' some EXCUSE like, 'you bore me, horribly', to 'TRY TO' DEFLECT AWAY FROM LOOKING AT WHERE and WHEN they ARE Wrong.

It's not up to you, Age, to inform other people who is open and who isn't open.

It's not up to you to inform another they are wrong.

Truth is within the beholder. Truth is within ourselves; it takes no rise From outward things, whatever you may believe. There is an inmost centre in us all, Where truth abides in fullness.

Those with eyes and ears will see and hear truth from the only reliable and most trusted genuine source,namely, your own self.

Everyone is on their own unique journey of self discovery, so it's not the business of someone else to interfere with a particular chosen path. All paths ultimately arrive at the same destination, and it does not matter how long it takes to arrive.


We each gather pieces of the whole picture along the way to truth, we do that by listening to information, no matter from what lips that information comes from. We then take from the listening, any information that helps us to build on our own picture, if it seems like it is making our picture more clearer. But if it isn't of any help or value to us, then we simply leave it alone, since we are already in the know of the information.

We're all at different stages along the path, so it's wrong to inform some one else they are on the wrong path.

It's only up to the seeker of truth to make up their own mind as to what is of value to them when listening to information. It's no one else's job but our own job to self-realise, to know thyself.

''And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.'' Take responsibility for yourself, to your own self be true.

[Age]

Those who do NOT like HEARING WHERE and WHEN their BELIEFS are False, Wrong, Inaccurate, Incorrect, INCONSISTENT, and/or CONTRADICTORY, and who are NOT OPEN, usually do 'FIND' some EXCUSE like, 'you bore me, horribly', to 'TRY TO' DEFLECT AWAY FROM LOOKING AT WHERE and WHEN they ARE Wrong.

It's not up to you, Age, to inform other people who is open and who isn't open.

BUT, it is UP TO 'you', "fairy", to inform others what 'they' are not up to informing others of, right?

If it is not up to 'me' to inform others who are open, and who is not open, then WHY is it up to 'you' to inform 'me' of this?

By the way, WHEN one is open, and when one is NOT open, is just BLATANTLY OBVIOUS, anyway.

It's not up to you to inform another they are wrong.

AGAIN, but it IS up to 'you' to inform me of what it is not up to me to inform another of, right?

By the way, some, like 'me', LOVE TO BE INFORMED OF WHEN 'i' AM WRONG. i, ALSO, LOVE, even more and especially so, of being INFORMED OF WHY 'i' AM WRONG.

BECAUSE it is 'this way' that 'i' can BECOME BETTER, and "more right".

Truth is within the beholder. Truth is within ourselves; it takes no rise From outward things, whatever you may believe. There is an inmost centre in us all, Where truth abides in fullness.

'you' are saying this like I have NOT been EXPRESSING the EXACT SAME thing, here.

Those with eyes and ears will see and hear truth from the only reliable and most trusted genuine source,namely, your own self. [/quote}

"your own self" is A MISNOMER and A CONTRADICTION IN TERMS. In fact 'it' is a True 'self-contradiction'.

Anyway, Truth is BACKED UP, SUPPORTED, VERIFIED, and PROVED, BY so-called 'outward things'.

As I have been, PARTLY, SHOWING and PROVING, here.

Everyone is on their own unique journey of self discovery,

And, that is WHY I say and write, that the ACTUAL Truth of things is FOUND, SEEN, UNDERSTOOD, and KNOWN FROM, WITHIN, BY thy Self.

'I' can only GUIDE 'you', human beings, in HOW TO FIND and KNOW the True Self. 'I', however, CAN NOT and WILL NOT, EVER, MAKE 'you' do ANY thing.

AGAIN, 'I' can SHOW 'you' ALL HOW 'you' can ALL FIND the Truths, in Life, BY, and FOR, "your" own 'selves', but, as ALWAYS, ONLY WHEN one is READY, and seriously WANTING TO.

BUT, as this forum PROVES absolutely True, 'you' people, here, when this is being written are FAR MORE INTERESTED IN JUST EXPRESSING what you ALREADY PRESUME and/or BELIEVE IS TRUE, INSTEAD, and ONLY.

so it's not the business of someone else to interfere with a particular chosen path.

WHY do you PRESUME that 'this' is what 'I' AM DOING, here?

And, was 'you' TELLING 'me' what is NOT UP TO 'me' 'you' INTERFERING?

All paths ultimately arrive at the same destination, and it does not matter how long it takes to arrive.

AGREED. And, what is ALSO ABSOLUTELY, and OBVIOUSLY, True IS 'some' ARRIVE, HERE, sooner than others do, and WILL.

And, AGAIN, if ANY one would like to ARRIVE, HERE, QUICKER and/or SOONER, THEN let 'us' HAVE A DISCUSSION.

We each gather pieces of the whole picture along the way to truth, we do that by listening to information, no matter from what lips that information comes from.

EXCEPT, it appears, 'you' are 'TRYING TO' SHUT 'some' UP, like 'me', for example. It is like 'you' DO NOT WANT others HEARING 'the information', which COULD BE COMING FROM 'my lips', as some might say.

Also, and let 'us' NOT FORGET, that one is NOT ABLE TO 'gather' INFORMATION WHILE one is continually wanting to EXPRESS 'the information' that they have ALREADY OBTAINED, and GAINED, ONLY.

We then take from the listening, any information that helps us to build on our own picture,

Now, here is A PRIME example of WHERE you human beings, back when this was being written, WERE going WRONG. Having, or holding, A picture, ALREADY, and WANTING TO 'build' on that ONE picture NEVER HELPED ANY one.

The BIG and FULL Real AND True picture REALLY IS NOT much AT ALL like the ones you people were SEEING, PRESUMING, and/or BELIEVING back in the days when this was being written. JUST LIKE 'the picture' that you ones HAD when this was being written was REALLY NOT MUCH AT ALL like 'the pictures' earlier human beings HAD, previously.

if it seems like it is making our picture more clearer.

BUT, there IS 'a way' to SPEED things, EXPONENTIALLY. Which, AGAIN, if absolutely ANY one IS INTERESTED, then let 'us' have A DISCUSSION.

But if it isn't of any help or value to us, then we simply leave it alone, since we are already in the know of the information.

Let 'us' take, for example, 'the information' that the Universe began about 13.7 billion years ago, before this was being written. 'This information' was NOT helpful AT ALL. Yet, BECAUSE it is CLAIMED TO BE TRUE, by some, others ACCEPT and BELIEVE 'this information' TO BE TRUE and RIGHT. And, ONCE BELIEF has been INSTILLED, then BLINDNESS, CLOSEDNESS, and STUPIDITY SETS IN, from which NO 'progress' NOR 'moving forward' is made.

We're all at different stages along the path, so it's wrong to inform some one else they are on the wrong path.

OF COURSE ALL are AT different stages along 'the path'. AGAIN, some have ALREADY ARRIVED, while the 'rest of you' are, STILL, ALONG 'the path', SOMEWHERE. Also, and let 'us' NOT FORGET some are NOT even ON the 'Right path', in Life. And, if and when people do NOT want to HEAR that they are ON the 'Wrong path', in Life, then that is PERFECTLY FINE and OKAY, WITH 'me'.

AGAIN, 'I' JUST WAIT, PATIENTLY, for 'those' who are JUST INTERESTED IN and WANTING TO LEARN, and UNDERSTAND, MORE, and ANEW.

For 'the rest' you ARE ABSOLUTELY FREE TO STAY IN, and WITH, your OWN BELIEFS, and PRESUMPTIONS, and to CARRY ON, as 'you' ARE, 'currently'.

It's only up to the seeker of truth to make up their own mind as to what is of value to them when listening to information.

Okay, but WHY are 'you' TELLING 'me' what is 'up to me', or 'not up to me', to SAY TO, and INFORM, others ,of?

WHY ONLY the so-called 'truth seeker'. WHY NOT EVERY one?

ALSO, the IRREFUTABLE Truth IS, there is NO one with the so-called 'their own mind'.

AND, by the way, 'what is, so-called, value', to one, IS, or BECOMES, DISTORTED BY PRE-EXISTING BELIEFS and PRESUMPTIONS.

It's no one else's job but our own job to self-realise, to know thyself.

Are 'you' AWARE that once 'one' KNOWS thy Self, then 'they' MUST OF ACTUALLY GAINED 'the way' OF, and, HOW-TO ARRIVE and REACH KNOWING thy Self?

If yes, then 'you' would ALSO BE FULLY AWARE that 'they' HAVE ALREADY GAINED 'the knowledge', of which 'some' ARE LOOKING FOR.

AGAIN, 'I' AM JUST WAITING FOR 'those' who ALSO WANT TO LEARN, and KNOW, the Truths, in Life, as well as the KNOW-HOW OF, and, HOW-TO FIND 'the ANSWERS', BY, and FOR thy 'self'.

''And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.'' Take responsibility for yourself, to your own self be true.

Sounds like you, here, WANT TO INFORM others OF things ABOUT 'them'.

AND, it is, REALLY, UP TO 'you' TO BE DOING 'this'?

[Fairy]

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:05 am
“Those who do NOT like HEARING WHERE and WHEN their BELIEFS are False, Wrong, Inaccurate, Incorrect, INCONSISTENT, and/or CONTRADICTORY, and who are NOT OPEN, usually do 'FIND' some EXCUSE like, 'you bore me, horribly', to 'TRY TO' DEFLECT AWAY FROM LOOKING AT WHERE and WHEN they ARE Wrong.”



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Fairy Response: dear Age, take heed.

Informing others the above words, your words. Is assuming things about others that you don’t know for certain are true.. you are making assumptions, you are doing the exact same thing you accuse others of doing.

It’s natural to make assumptions when we are only given slivers of information and not the full story. Missing pieces out of what we are trying to communicate is only half the story, forcing other people to only assume what’s been said rather than fully understanding what’s being said.

You too,are part of the problem of making assumptions, just so you know.

[Age]

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:05 am
“Those who do NOT like HEARING WHERE and WHEN their BELIEFS are False, Wrong, Inaccurate, Incorrect, INCONSISTENT, and/or CONTRADICTORY, and who are NOT OPEN, usually do 'FIND' some EXCUSE like, 'you bore me, horribly', to 'TRY TO' DEFLECT AWAY FROM LOOKING AT WHERE and WHEN they ARE Wrong.”



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Fairy Response: dear Age, take heed.

Informing others the above words, your words. Is assuming things about others that you don’t know for certain are true..

But, 'this' is your ASSUMPTION, ONLY.

NOT UNTIL 'my words' HAVE BEEN TESTED, can 'then' then be VERIFIED or FALSIFIED.

Also, and ONCE AGAIN, I was NOT ASSUMING ANY thing about you people. I KNOW, FOR CERTAIN, what I SAID and CLAIMED IS True. And, if ANY one would like to TEST, CHALLENGE, and/or QUESTION me ON 'this', then, by all means, BEGIN.

you are making assumptions, you are doing the exact same thing you accuse others of doing.

AGAIN, 'this' is your ASSUMPTION, ONLY.

And, REMAINS your ASSUMPTION UNTIL 'you' PUT 'me' to THE TEST.

ONCE MORE, I can and will back up and support what I SAY and CLAIM WITH IRREFUTABLE PROOF. But, ONCE AGAIN, I will only DO this WHEN one is Truly INTERESTED in HAVING A DISCUSSION.

It’s natural to make assumptions

OF COURSE IT IS. But, 'we', human beings. do NOT HAVE TO. ONLY 'those' who are NOT IN FULL CONTROL 'make assumptions'.

And, as 'i' HAVE PROVED, here, in this forum, have 'made assumptions', ALSO.

i will SAY 'this' AGAIN. i do NOT LIKE to make ANY assumptions, AT ALL. BUT, on occasions, I do 'SLIP UP', as some might say, and make SOME assumptions, here.

But, UNTIL 'you' EXPRESS what the ACTUAL WORDS ARE, that you CLAIM ARE 'my assumptions', then, REALLY, 'we' will NEVER KNOW.

MAYBE I DID 'make assumptions', BUT, THEN AGAIN, MAYBE I DID NOT.

'We' WILL HAVE TO WAIT, TO SEE, right?

when we are only given slivers of information and not the full story.

That is JUST an EXCUSE. you, OBVIOUSLY, do NOT HAVE TO 'make assumptions'. But, if you WANT TO and CHOOSE TO DO SO, then okay. I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY you, people, DO it.

Missing pieces out of what we are trying to communicate is only half the story, forcing other people to only assume what’s been said rather than fully understanding what’s being said.

You too,are part of the problem of making assumptions, just so you know.

But, to me, there IS NO so-called 'problem' of 'making assumptions'.

To me, 'problems' are some thing ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.

[Fairy]

Age wrote: “I KNOW, FOR CERTAIN, what I SAID and CLAIMED IS True”



Response: Of course if no one agrees with what you know for certain is true, then you are obviously going to say other people are wrong to disagree with you. Because what you know for certain, is for you, the truth, and no one can take that away from you by disputing or discrediting you. It’s just that it might not be the way other people see it, they may not see the way you see. And that’s perfectly fine. We can only see the world according to our own unique perspective and how we each individually experience the same reality in different ways.


And my point is, we all know what’s true, to your own self be true.

It doesn’t matter if others disagree with our truths. That’s why it’s pointless to argue or debate over anything really. People tend to stick to their own truth, and that’s what matters for them personally.

We can either resonate with someone else’s truth or we can’t resonate with it. It doesn’t matter either way, because like I said earlier, the truth is within all of us. To thy own self be true.

Maybe we just come to this forum to show each other our truths. My point is no one is being forced to believe anything they read. It’s simply about sharing and showing what we know with each other. That’s all.

[Age]

Age wrote: “I KNOW, FOR CERTAIN, what I SAID and CLAIMED IS True”



Response: Of course if no one agrees with what you know for certain is true, then you are obviously going to say other people are wrong to disagree with you.

LOL you ASSUME, and then SAY and WRITE, some of the most OUTRAGEOUS and False LIES.

ONCE MORE you could NOT be FURTHER FROM the ACTUAL Truth of things, here.

Because what you know for certain, is for you, the truth, and no one can take that away from you by disputing or discrediting you.

you REALLY DO NOT YET HAVE A CLUE as to what I ACTUALLY KNOW, FOR CERTAIN, and who and what 'it' is in RELATION TO, EXACTLY.

I will, AGAIN, suggest that BEFORE you make CLAIMS, which you OBVIOUSLY could NOT back up and support you CONSIDER what you CAN PROVE, and can NOT PROVE, BEFORE you going MAKING your MADE UP CLAIMS.

It’s just that it might not be the way other people see it, they may not see the way you see.

you, OBVIOUSLY, have NOT YET COMPREHENDED, and UNDERSTAND, the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KNOWN, FOR CERTAIN, and the OTHER things.

And that’s perfectly fine. We can only see the world according to our own unique perspective and how we each individually experience the same reality in different ways.

Are you AWARE that you ARE CONTRADICTING what you have SAID and CLAIMED, here, PREVIOUSLY?

And my point is, we all know what’s true, to your own self be true.

Well you COULD START EXPRESSING what you CLAIM TO 'know what is true', so that 'we' can then SEE if what you CLAIM 'is true' IS ACTUALLY True, or NOT. Of course that IS if you have the COURAGE to do so.

It doesn’t matter if others disagree with our truths. That’s why it’s pointless to argue or debate over anything really. People tend to stick to their own truth, and that’s what matters for them personally.

If you REALLY WANT TO 'stick to your OWN truth', then so be it, but you doing so EXPLAINS FURTHER and WHY you, STILL, have NOT YET UNCOVERED and/or HAD the ACTUAL Truth REVEALED TO you, YET.

We can either resonate with someone else’s truth or we can’t resonate with it.

AGAIN, WHY ONLY these two things, ONLY?

It doesn’t matter either way, because like I said earlier, the truth is within all of us. To thy own self be true.

But WHO CARES what 'you' are SAYING and CLAIMING, here, BESIDES you OF COURSE?

Maybe we just come to this forum to show each other our truths.

you might well DO 'this', and WHO is the 'we', here, which 'you' are REFERRING TO, EXACTLY?

My point is no one is being forced to believe anything they read.

IF ANY one BELIEVES ANY thing they read, OR hear, then they have NOT YET LEARNT HOW TO REMAIN, and STAY, OPEN.

It’s simply about sharing and showing what we know with each other. That’s all.

If that is ALL there is, to you, here, then okay.

But, to others, there is ACTUALLY MORE, here.

[Fairy]

Age wrote: “I KNOW, FOR CERTAIN, what I SAID and CLAIMED IS True”



Response: Of course if no one agrees with what you know for certain is true, then you are obviously going to say other people are wrong to disagree with you.

LOL you ASSUME, and then SAY and WRITE, some of the most OUTRAGEOUS and False LIES.

ONCE MORE you could NOT be FURTHER FROM the ACTUAL Truth of things, here.

Because what you know for certain, is for you, the truth, and no one can take that away from you by disputing or discrediting you.

you REALLY DO NOT YET HAVE A CLUE as to what I ACTUALLY KNOW, FOR CERTAIN, and who and what 'it' is in RELATION TO, EXACTLY.

I will, AGAIN, suggest that BEFORE you make CLAIMS, which you OBVIOUSLY could NOT back up and support you CONSIDER what you CAN PROVE, and can NOT PROVE, BEFORE you going MAKING your MADE UP CLAIMS.

It’s just that it might not be the way other people see it, they may not see the way you see.

you, OBVIOUSLY, have NOT YET COMPREHENDED, and UNDERSTAND, the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KNOWN, FOR CERTAIN, and the OTHER things.

And that’s perfectly fine. We can only see the world according to our own unique perspective and how we each individually experience the same reality in different ways.

Are you AWARE that you ARE CONTRADICTING what you have SAID and CLAIMED, here, PREVIOUSLY?

And my point is, we all know what’s true, to your own self be true.

Well you COULD START EXPRESSING what you CLAIM TO 'know what is true', so that 'we' can then SEE if what you CLAIM 'is true' IS ACTUALLY True, or NOT. Of course that IS if you have the COURAGE to do so.

It doesn’t matter if others disagree with our truths. That’s why it’s pointless to argue or debate over anything really. People tend to stick to their own truth, and that’s what matters for them personally.

If you REALLY WANT TO 'stick to your OWN truth', then so be it, but you doing so EXPLAINS FURTHER and WHY you, STILL, have NOT YET UNCOVERED and/or HAD the ACTUAL Truth REVEALED TO you, YET.

We can either resonate with someone else’s truth or we can’t resonate with it.

AGAIN, WHY ONLY these two things, ONLY?

It doesn’t matter either way, because like I said earlier, the truth is within all of us. To thy own self be true.

But WHO CARES what 'you' are SAYING and CLAIMING, here, BESIDES you OF COURSE?

Maybe we just come to this forum to show each other our truths.

you might well DO 'this', and WHO is the 'we', here, which 'you' are REFERRING TO, EXACTLY?

My point is no one is being forced to believe anything they read.

IF ANY one BELIEVES ANY thing they read, OR hear, then they have NOT YET LEARNT HOW TO REMAIN, and STAY, OPEN.

It’s simply about sharing and showing what we know with each other. That’s all.

If that is ALL there is, to you, here, then okay.

But, to others, there is ACTUALLY MORE, here.

Age, I have absolutely no idea what you’re trying to say to me. And quite frankly I don’t care right now. I’m just so glad I don’t live inside your head because if I did I would probably end up hanging myself from the nearest rafter until dead. I’d do that just to escape from the agony and torment of having a mind like yours. Luckily I don’t have a mind like you. Thank the lord.

No offence intended. I’m just not reading you one iota at the moment, and so I’ll leave it at that for now, as I’m really not interested in ever wanting to read you. The reason being is because I know that I will never be able to understand you if I lived to be a million years old. So I resign from ever thinking I will one day understand anything you write about.