Catholicism versus Protestantism

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Wizard22
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Catholicism versus Protestantism

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The older I get (I'm entering Middle Age soon), the clearer it becomes that "Western Civilization" is set upon a fulcrum, a pivot-point, between Catholicism (Traditional European Culture & Identity) versus Protestantism (Liberalism, Secularism, Anti-Catholicism, Judaism, Zionism, Etc). The main division today is called and interpreted as "Left (The Secular State) versus Right (The Church)". But really, Western Secularism is yet another, one of many outcrops, of Anti-Catholic sentimentalism.

You're either Pro-Catholic / Centralization of Power & Morality / European History & Identity / Roman Imperialism... or you're not.


So from this perspective, most of European History, and especially the Protestant movements and outcrops, make immediate sense. Protestantism stems, largely, from Envy. Pagan Europe was envious of Rome...Roman Power, History, Culture, Monopoly of Information, Empire, Architecture, EVERYTHING. So when the "Protestant" movement began (among the Germans), it was mostly an attempt at Copying the predominant European culture and power. It was an attempt to copy Greco-Roman/European Civilization, among the Pagan and Heathen European tribes.

The British Isle Anglos, the Germans, the Viking Scandinavians, the Eastern Euro Slavs... all of these attempted to copy the might of Rome, and failed. Their failures are today called "Protestantism", or in the East, they were closer to the mark, with their "Eastern Orthodoxy" religion and culture. Catholicism and Orthodoxy split apart, long before Catholicism and Protestantism (German Christianity) split apart.


The Enlightenment, Secularism, Post-modern Neo-Liberalism, Judaism and Zionism, all of it, all "Leftist" values, ultimately stem from an Envious nature about Catholicism--attempts to emulate a superior Culture and Morality.

This caused many, countless divides among the self-proclaimed "Christian" sects. And this was a critical, the most important aspect of Protestants arriving to the New World Colonies. This is the division which led to "Americanism". It is why the Spanish empire and fleets retained Catholicism among "Latin America" (South America), while the British Colonists wanted their own (per) version of Christianity, on the East Coast United States. Along with the French Revolution and "Enlightenment Values", British Protestants wanted to recreate their own version of Catholic-Rome.

This is why Washington DC, Eastern United States Government, modeled their buildings, architecture, and philosophies, off of Greco-Roman idealism, Platonism (Republicanism), and a complete emulation of Rome/Catholicism.


This resentiment and hatred, between Protestants and Catholics, runs very deep. And I've not yet properly understood this division. But, obviously, lots of Europeans have killed each-other already, and died over it. Many wars and "Crusades" were waged in its name. Its importance cannot be understated.


Quick addition EDIT:

European Royalty, Royalist and Monarchs, all claim heritage and 'Godliness' (God-ordained) through the Catholic Church originally. So Catholics were not only consolidating power from the start--they also bore and bred the Royal European family lineages, which they then sent into Pagan and Heathen Europe, to dominate their Middle Ages and Medieval Era. "Protestants" didn't stand a chance, until the recent few Centuries, when Colonialism opened avenues and opportunities for European Proletariat, to rise up (in wealth and military power), to combat the Century and Millennia-old royal European heritages and families.

These are also underneath the tumult of the French Revolution, Napoleonic Wars, 20th Century WW1 and WW2...

So the Royalist European contingent, is another firm position of "The Right". And this is the underpinning of Postmodern Racialist ideologies as well...is your Nation defined through Ideals (Left-Liberalism) or Bloodlines (Right-Conservatism)?
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Re: Catholicism versus Protestantism

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the crusades were before the protestant revolutions

-Imp

ps: the left is associated with Marxism in which god is an opiate

leftist junkies?
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Re: Catholicism versus Protestantism

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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:06 am This resentiment and hatred, between Protestants and Catholics, runs very deep. And I've not yet properly understood this division. But, obviously, lots of Europeans have killed each-other already, and died over it.
Catholicism is a clerical religion with the power of interpretation vested in the clerical hierarchy at the top of which you can find the Papacy. Protestantism is a failed attempt at turning Christianity into a scriptural religion. In practice, the Protestant sects are as clerical as the Catholics. Christianity will never become a scriptural religion. Too many of its existing rules are non-Biblical. If you abolish those, you won't recognize the result anymore. It won't be Christianity anymore. Therefore, Christianity is fundamentally tied to the power of its clergy and their corruption.
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