promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 11:22 am
Please don't turn this into another thread where all the old invalids getting ready to die get out their bibles and try to console each other that they're all going to heaven when they do.
So what do you think happens to an event when time and space are extracted----- or did the event somehow unravel?
No, the event did not unravel.
Promethean is an event that is ringfenced by time and space. When Prom ceases to exist in time and space the whole Cosmos of which Prom(and everything else) is a necessary part will remain.
Indeed, madam B, for by being only a mode and modification of substance, it does not pertain to the essence of my nature to exist necessarily, but contingently as one possible attribute of it.
promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:21 pm
Indeed, madam B, for by being only a mode and modification of substance, it does not pertain to the essence of my nature to exist necessarily, but contingently as one possible attribute of it.
But that modification of substance which is your nature did not exist until it existed. Cosmos constantly comes into being. The present is a figure of speech only . Existence precedes essence and is temporal---finite.
The only aspect of Promethean that, having existed, can't not exist is experience sans the temporal experiencing self of Promethean.
As someone who at one pointed studied in seminary and have visited numerous churches over the years, looking for truth (I have philosophical inclinations after all, for better or for worse) I have not experienced anything of value or depth within the Christianity I have been exposed to.
What I have experienced is merely a rhetorical game, by those in charge, that is centered around the word "love" as strictly an expression of a subconscious power play over people who are fundamentally desperate and in search of meaning.
Quite frankly it is a meaningless word as it can be attached to such a multitude of things that if the word had any essence at one point in history has been fundamentally been robbed of worth.
The word is strictly now a means of exploitation and a linchpin word upon which the imagination expontentiates untruths about existence and leaves the worshipper in awe of only the mind as any "relationship with God" is strictly the mind creating and telling a story to provide a sense of security that paradoxically conflicts with the environment the worshippers enter into, upon leaving worship, as their sole God is merely subjective experience.
I can go further but that is my two cents for now, I quite frankly do not expect it to matter much.
I am just getting too old; as a philosopher. I was taught to use your mind, and brain, not a computer program to answer for you. When they run your dissertation or thesis through a plagiarism program, you will fail, as it was somebody else who wrote that. Have fun in academia because you will not last very long, try to be original and not use someone else’s work.
; Logic do you understand how it works? You are a genius because you can point out the obvious works, not of your own work? May it be the work of originality that you so desire, but cannot prove? You are, so educated you do not need an education because you can look it up on the web of lies, and then pawn it off as your own? You are no different than most of the message board. You are like most of the message board, you data dump, and pass it off as your own. Making, myself to figure out what you are trying to prove; Are you so sure that you are making sense and being logical? Am I the one being left behind, or is it you and your answers to the basic questions that you do not understand and possess. You are telling me to wake-up? Let me tell you something: I have learned and forgotten more, than you will ever know. Yet, I am humble enough to know that I do not know half of philosophy and how it works; I am always learning something new about some subject or happening event. Read the magazine Philosophy Now because it is academic resource, or at least use one. Why argue with you when I can go straight to the source of the computer program? At least be original in your arguing.
If a man slaughters unsuspecting members of the public in the name of his religion he has proved nothing to support his religion: all militaristic remedies are useless except in the short term e.g. terrorising people.
Each theistic religion or sect supports a measure of punitiveness. Religions are man made institutions for the purpose of governance. Despite the strong political connection , both Christianity and Islam contain the civilising influences of Jesus, and Muhammad, not to mention their progenitors among the OT prophets, and the ancient Greeks.
