Quran Al Baqarah 2:275. Those who consume interest will stand ˹on Judgment Day˺ like those driven to madness by Satan’s touch. That is because they say, “Trade is no different than interest.” But Allah has permitted [tit-for-tat] trade and forbidden interest.
As far as I am concerned, what is good and what is evil, what is right and what is wrong, all of this, is to be decreed exclusively by the Lord of both worlds.
All morality emanates from the laws of the Almighty.
Who is the lord of both worlds? Allah?
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No. People have decided there is a limit to these perverse displays.
I was taking my dogs for a walk near our Council Offices and as usual the Australian flag, the Aboriginal flag were flying proudly in the breeze and for the first time the LGBTQ flag was hoisted.
What I dont GET is why people have a flag to display their sexual preferences?
Apparently it did not go down well and the next day it was taken down.
Frankly I am over all this nonsense about what is a woman, what is a man, cross dressing, men imitating women and women imitating men. feminism, down trodden men, parents persuading their children to take on another sexual identity, it goes on and on.
Is this a sign of the times? Do I have to move further away to escape this madness (if I have to I will).
Whatever, it doesn't add up to a positive outcome.
reasonvemotion wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:08 amgodelian wrote:
Quran Al Baqarah 2:275. Those who consume interest will stand ˹on Judgment Day˺ like those driven to madness by Satan’s touch. That is because they say, “Trade is no different than interest.” But Allah has permitted [tit-for-tat] trade and forbidden interest.
As far as I am concerned, what is good and what is evil, what is right and what is wrong, all of this, is to be decreed exclusively by the Lord of both worlds.
All morality emanates from the laws of the Almighty.
Who is the lord of both worlds? Allah?
The "Lord of both worlds" is a common Abrahamic belief:
Torah Genesis 1:1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Quran Al-A'raf 7:54. Indeed, your Lord is Allah , who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne.
I noted that you provided two references, the Torah and the Quran and not the Scriptures as it does not appear as Lord of the Worlds in this Book.
I do know the Quran denies the divinity of Jesus and his status as Son of God in several verses, but it is interesting to read from the quranexplorer.com the article "Lord of the Worlds" in the Quran where it explains the concept of Allah being the Lord of the Worlds so we all understand.
Allah did this more than 1500 years ago, when human invention and technological advancements were not present. Today everyone knows that there are more planets than earth but Allah had told this in His book that He alone is Lord of the Worlds. long before telescopes were invented, long before scientific breakthroughs took place. It really is quite amazing.
Though Muslims and Christians can describe Allah and Yahweh in similar ways at times, they are not the same God.
Kaylla wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:33 pm
I first joined this forum in 2011, and there was some sexism back then, but it seems to be much more blatant now.
Is this the case, and if so, whats with that?
In the past decade sexism has become much more blatant in society at large. Led by Donald Trump and others of his ilk.
"I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything...Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything."
--Donald Trump from 2005 recording made for "Access Hollywood"
What's more, in the past decade or so: racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, etc. have all also become much more blatant in society at large. In short, all forms of bigotry have become much more blatant. Taking it up another level of abstraction, all forms of irrational fear/hatred have become more blatant. It's the foundation of the demagoguery employed by Trump and others of his ilk.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”
— often attributed to Joseph Goebbels.
Perhaps the most disturbing thing about this is how many "Christians" are okay with it, if not all for it.
You seem offended by bigots, by people who have different values than you.
Kaylla wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:33 pm
I first joined this forum in 2011, and there was some sexism back then, but it seems to be much more blatant now.
Is this the case, and if so, whats with that?
Society and societies are polarizing in every direction concievable, "sexism" is just one degree of it, even polarizing over what is sexist and what is not.
Kaylla wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:33 pm
I first joined this forum in 2011, and there was some sexism back then, but it seems to be much more blatant now.
Is this the case, and if so, whats with that?
In the past decade sexism has become much more blatant in society at large. Led by Donald Trump and others of his ilk.
"I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything...Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything."
--Donald Trump from 2005 recording made for "Access Hollywood"
What's more, in the past decade or so: racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, etc. have all also become much more blatant in society at large. In short, all forms of bigotry have become much more blatant. Taking it up another level of abstraction, all forms of irrational fear/hatred have become more blatant. It's the foundation of the demagoguery employed by Trump and others of his ilk.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”
— often attributed to Joseph Goebbels.
Perhaps the most disturbing thing about this is how many "Christians" are okay with it, if not all for it.
You seem offended by bigots, by people who have different values than you.
Bigotry is considered wrong because it involves deeply entrenched, unreasonable prejudice and hatred towards individuals based on characteristics like race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, leading to discrimination, harmful stereotypes, and potential violence against the targeted group, causing significant social and psychological harm to its victims
In the past decade sexism has become much more blatant in society at large. Led by Donald Trump and others of his ilk.
"I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything...Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything."
--Donald Trump from 2005 recording made for "Access Hollywood"
What's more, in the past decade or so: racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, etc. have all also become much more blatant in society at large. In short, all forms of bigotry have become much more blatant. Taking it up another level of abstraction, all forms of irrational fear/hatred have become more blatant. It's the foundation of the demagoguery employed by Trump and others of his ilk.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”
— often attributed to Joseph Goebbels.
Perhaps the most disturbing thing about this is how many "Christians" are okay with it, if not all for it.
You seem offended by bigots, by people who have different values than you.
Bigotry is considered wrong because it involves deeply entrenched, unreasonable prejudice and hatred towards individuals based on characteristics like race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, leading to discrimination, harmful stereotypes, and potential violence against the targeted group, causing significant social and psychological harm to its victims
You seem offended by bigots, by people who have different values than you.
Bigotry is considered wrong because it involves deeply entrenched, unreasonable prejudice and hatred towards individuals based on characteristics like race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, leading to discrimination, harmful stereotypes, and potential violence against the targeted group, causing significant social and psychological harm to its victims
Morality is relative to subjective experience thus there is no universally applied definition of bigotry nor the harm implied from it.
Morality is not fixed, but subject to change.
Typically, bigots hold self-centered and/or simplistic views. Not unlike those in your responses. Of course, for the most part the two go hand-in-hand.
"The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."
Oliver Wendell Holmes
