attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:42 pm
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:29 pm
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:13 pm
I think of all conceivable points in 3D space as either having an event or not
You seem to be using the term 'event' differently than I do. In physics, an event is a single physical (frame independent) point in spacetime, a location, whether something interesting occurs there or not.
But something is always occurring there or not (is my point).
And I asked you to PROVIDE EXAMPLES of HOW there could be some thing 'not occurring'.
I also POINTED OUT that your INABILITY TO PROVIDE ANY EXAMPLES AT ALL, will SHOW and PROVE that there is NO such thing as 'no event'.
What you are claiming here would be like claiming that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
And, because NO one could ALSO PROVIDE ANY EXAMPLE of ANY such thing, then this PROVES, IRREFUTABLY, that there is NO such thing as ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL. Just like there is NO such thing as 'ABSOLUTELY NO EVENT'.
There IS some thing, the Universe, just like there IS 'an event', the Universe in CONSTANT EVOLUTION.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:42 pm
That those on/offs, are what constitute the various properties of the fields.
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1. WHAT 'on/offs'?
you just CLAIMING that there 'are events'/'no events' does NOT mean that they ACTUALLY EXIST. And, you NOT being ABLE TO PROVIDE ABSOLUTELY ANY EXAMPLES lays FURTHER PROOF that there is NO such thing as 'no events'.
2. 'WHAT properties''?
you just SAYING that there 'are properties' does NOT mean that there ACTUALLY IS. PROVIDE 'the definition' AND the 'example'. That is; if you REALLY DO WANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY, here.
3. 'WHAT fields'?
Again, just SAYING the word 'fields' does NOT mean that there are ACTUAL fields NOR does it mean that you KNOW what you are talking ABOUT, here. So, ONCE MORE, JUST PROVIDE examples AND definitions.
you human beings just RE-REPEATING what you have previously written and/or heard NEVER PROVES ABSOLUTELY ANY thing AT ALL.
In fact, and as I have been SHOWING and PROVING, here, when questioned and/or challenged you human beings ACTUALLY FALL COMPLETELY APART.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:42 pm
Noax wrote:You seem to use the word as 'an occurrence', the interaction or mere passing of particles say.
No, for me the particles are not passing...they are being 'invoked' at the dimensional point in 3D space.
1. BY WHO and/or WHAT, exactly?
2. Some thing can be so-called 'invoked' and STILL 'pass' something else.
3. What is some so-called 'dimensional point', in some so-called '3D space', exactly?
4. EXPLAIN what '3D space' is, exactly, to you.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:42 pm
Like a beautiful musical composition, the fluctuations of the various standard fields and their any or none interactions with each other, are popping in an out of existence per those points, in an eloquently exquisite "timed" dance.
Talk about an example of 'LOSING THE PLOT'.
EVERY visible object of 'matter', itself, comes IN and OUT of Existence. Some just more quickly than others. Again, EVERY labeled or named thing begins to exist, exists, and then exits. Except, OF COURSE, for 'matter', 'space', and the Universe, themselves, (and 'energy' but this exists in a different way).
So, 'things' 'popping' in and out of Existence, Itself, is absolutely NOTHING unusual NOR abnormal. What you human beings, here, just do NOT YET RECOGNIZE and FULLY UNDERSTAND and KNOW is that ALL of 'those things' are just the One Thing, changing in way, shape, and/or form, and just APPEARING as though they are 'separated things'.
And, 'they' ONLY APPEAR as 'separated' and 'different' because this is HOW the human brain 'tried to' make sense of 'the world'/the Universe that 'it' has found 'itself' WITH-and-IN.
you older human beings LABEL and NAME the One Thing into as many smaller and diverse 'things' as can be possibly be done to HELP in you, human beings, in trying to WORK OUT, COMPREHEND, and UNDERSTAND, literally, ALL of 'this'.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:42 pm
Noax wrote:A point in space has countless events (both definitions), for the reasons I gave in my prior post.
When you say, 'A point in space', do you just mean 'a point' or 'a place' in the Universe, Itself?
What do you mean by 'countless events'? And, what are the 'both definitions'? Are 'they' the 'event' AND 'no event' definitions?
And, it does not matter one iota what 'reasons' you have given, ANYWHERE, if the 'very thing' that 'the reasons' you 'give for' is NOT even an ACTUAL THING, ITSELF.
'Trying to' CLAIM that 'the thing', itself, exists, for 'reasons' you have previously provided NEVER EVER MEANS that the 'very thing', itself, exists.
you have to, FIRST, PROVE IRREFUTABLY that 'the thing' EXISTS, BEFORE you can logically even try to EXPLAIN the 'reasons' WHY 'it' exists.
And, just 'trying to' CLAIM that an ASSUMED 'thing' in A 'theory' ALREADY EXITS, is BEYOND RIDICULOUS.
Now, if ANY one WANTS TO CLAIM that A 'field', here, EXISTS, then just START EXPLAIN what one is, EXACTLY, and then POINT OUT and SHOW, and PROVE, WHERE one, or many, ARE, EXACTLY.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:42 pm
OMG Yes. It blows my mind when scientist measure such things as a zeptosecond. The amount of events occurring ALL the time is mind boggling.
WHAT?
AND, so WHERE, EXACTLY, are these, supposed and alleged, 'no events' HAPPENING, and OCCURRING, EXACTLY? ALSO, are the amount of 'no events', supposedly and allegedly, also occurring, ALL the time', also so-called 'mind boggling', to you, as well?
It is like you have gone down some weird entanglement of words and ideas in your HOPE of just getting your PRE-EXISTING BELIEF backed up and supported, SOMEHOW and/or SOMEWHAT.