Nuances Consideration with AI

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Re: Nuances Consideration with AI

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Iwannaplato wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:47 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:09 am The purpose of this thread is to discuss how to use AI more efficiently to dig into the facts of the issue on hand.
Well, again: here's how....
Don't copy paste.
Ask the AI questions, then integrate its ideas with your own. Try to understand them carefully before you fling them at others.
Once you have a sense, perhaps with a number of follow up questions, of what the AI means and where you disagree, agree, have nuances differences or ways of thinking about it. Post your own ideas with what you LEARNED from the AI integrated into your own thinking. IOW do the same thing one does with other resources like articles, books, teachers, videos.....Make the ideas your own and integrate them such that you can put them into your own wordings and such that they fit with your other beliefs.
Beautifully thought out response. One could be fooled into thinking you've followed your own advice - maybe you asked ai, and then integrated the ais answer into your own understanding so that you could write a response of your own, in your own words.

Would be an amazing leap for VA if he figured out how to do something like that.
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Re: Nuances Consideration with AI

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Iwannaplato wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:47 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:09 am The purpose of this thread is to discuss how to use AI more efficiently to dig into the facts of the issue on hand.
Well, again: here's how....
Don't copy paste.
Ask the AI questions, then integrate its ideas with your own. Try to understand them carefully before you fling them at others.
Once you have a sense, perhaps with a number of follow up questions, of what the AI means and where you disagree, agree, have nuances differences or ways of thinking about it. Post your own ideas with what you LEARNED from the AI integrated into your own thinking. IOW do the same thing one does with other resources like articles, books, teachers, videos.....Make the ideas your own and integrate them such that you can put them into your own wordings and such that they fit with your other beliefs.
As I had stated I post here for my own selfish interests and if it served any thing positive to others, that is secondary.

In most cases, as programmed, what AI provided is already a summary of summaries in the most effective way, presented in one page, at times 2 pages.
There is no room for me to summarize further, else it would only corrupt the information.

In topics from elsewhere SEP, IEP they on average total to around 30 pages, thus the need to present only the gist of it which often lead to misunderstandings.

In addition, why should I waste time [to think how to represent it] especially in a forum like this?
If you don't like it, you know what to do.
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Re: Nuances Consideration with AI

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Flannel Jesus wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:03 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:47 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:09 am The purpose of this thread is to discuss how to use AI more efficiently to dig into the facts of the issue on hand.
Well, again: here's how....
Don't copy paste.
Ask the AI questions, then integrate its ideas with your own. Try to understand them carefully before you fling them at others.
Once you have a sense, perhaps with a number of follow up questions, of what the AI means and where you disagree, agree, have nuances differences or ways of thinking about it. Post your own ideas with what you LEARNED from the AI integrated into your own thinking. IOW do the same thing one does with other resources like articles, books, teachers, videos.....Make the ideas your own and integrate them such that you can put them into your own wordings and such that they fit with your other beliefs.
Beautifully thought out response. One could be fooled into thinking you've followed your own advice - maybe you asked ai, and then integrated the ais answer into your own understanding so that you could write a response of your own, in your own words.

Would be an amazing leap for VA if he figured out how to do something like that.
I do know that the AIs will say something along those lines, since I checked before telling him to ask his AI. It was a longer answer, but supported mine after a number of different wordings. But, well, the answer comes from my own life and from teaching.
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Re: Nuances Consideration with AI

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Iwannaplato wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:47 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:09 am The purpose of this thread is to discuss how to use AI more efficiently to dig into the facts of the issue on hand.
Well, again: here's how....
Don't copy paste.
Ask the AI questions, then integrate its ideas with your own. Try to understand them carefully before you fling them at others.
Once you have a sense, perhaps with a number of follow up questions, of what the AI means and where you disagree, agree, have nuances differences or ways of thinking about it. Post your own ideas with what you LEARNED from the AI integrated into your own thinking. IOW do the same thing one does with other resources like articles, books, teachers, videos.....Make the ideas your own and integrate them such that you can put them into your own wordings and such that they fit with your other beliefs.
It is this type of 'advice' and comment WHY these human beings took SO, SO LONG to CATCH UP.
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Re: Nuances Consideration with AI

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Iwannaplato wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:55 am
Flannel Jesus wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:03 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:47 am Well, again: here's how....
Don't copy paste.
Ask the AI questions, then integrate its ideas with your own. Try to understand them carefully before you fling them at others.
Once you have a sense, perhaps with a number of follow up questions, of what the AI means and where you disagree, agree, have nuances differences or ways of thinking about it. Post your own ideas with what you LEARNED from the AI integrated into your own thinking. IOW do the same thing one does with other resources like articles, books, teachers, videos.....Make the ideas your own and integrate them such that you can put them into your own wordings and such that they fit with your other beliefs.
Beautifully thought out response. One could be fooled into thinking you've followed your own advice - maybe you asked ai, and then integrated the ais answer into your own understanding so that you could write a response of your own, in your own words.

Would be an amazing leap for VA if he figured out how to do something like that.
I do know that the AIs will say something along those lines, since I checked before telling him to ask his AI. It was a longer answer, but supported mine after a number of different wordings. But, well, the answer comes from my own life and from teaching.
And thus WHY this one's "students" are AS CLOSED as this one OBVIOUSLY IS.

LOL Make ideas, and wording, 'fit' into your own 'currently' HELD ONTO BELIEFS.

Could one become MORE CLOSED?
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