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Veritas Aequitas
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Analytical Philosophy is Intuitive

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Posters like FDP, Peter Holmes and others are fanatical with Analytic Philosophy.
Analytic Philosophy is the more popular philosophy amongst academicians at present which boost FDP and PH's arrogance where they crutch upon it to put down the views of those who oppose them, e.g. philosophical antirealists and moral realists/objectivists.

However, FDP and PH are so ignorant their grounding on philosophical realism is grounded on an illusion and their traditional analytical philosophy approach is grounded on intuition.

Here is the supporting view as exposed by Experiment Philosophy - X-Phi:
viewtopic.php?p=743466#p743466
Experimental philosophy (X-Phi) challenges traditional analytic philosophy in several significant ways, primarily by questioning the methods and assumptions underlying philosophical inquiry. Here's a breakdown of how X-Phi critiques and diverges from traditional analytic approaches:

1. Critique of Reliance on Intuitions
Traditional analytic philosophy often relies on intuitions of philosophers as evidence for or against philosophical arguments. For instance:
Philosophers use thought experiments (e.g., Gettier cases in epistemology, the Trolley Problem in ethics) to elicit intuitions about key concepts like knowledge, morality, or identity.

X-Phi's Challenge:
X-Phi questions the universality and reliability of these intuitions [of analytic philosophers] by empirically investigating how they vary across individuals, cultures, and contexts.
Studies show that intuitions are often shaped by cultural background, cognitive biases, and framing effects, suggesting that they are not as foundational or objective as traditional philosophers assume.

2. Emphasis on Empirical Methods
Traditional analytic philosophy is heavily conceptual and argumentative, relying on a priori reasoning, logical analysis, and introspection.

X-Phi's Challenge:
X-Phi introduces empirical methods—surveys, experiments, and statistical analysis—to gather data about people's intuitions and judgments.
This empirical approach shifts the focus from purely abstract reasoning to testing hypotheses about philosophical concepts in real-world or controlled experimental settings.

3. Democratization of Philosophy
In traditional analytic philosophy, the intuitions of professional philosophers often dominate discussions, implicitly assuming that these intuitions are more refined or valid.

X-Phi's Challenge:
X-Phi argues that the intuitions of non-philosophers are equally important, especially if philosophy aims to understand concepts and principles that apply universally.
By studying intuitions across diverse populations, X-Phi broadens the scope of philosophical inquiry and challenges the elitism of relying solely on expert judgments.
So there are two intuitions in consideration:
  • 1. intuitions of philosophers [traditional analytic philosophy]
    2. intuitions of non-philosophers
1. intuitions of philosophers [traditional analytic philosophy]
This is merely on an armchair basis, i.e. mental masturbation based on intellectual analysis without reference to what is going on in the field and considerations of non-philosophers.

2. intuitions of non-philosophers
In addition to intellectual analysis, X-Phi takes into account the intuitions of non-philosophers.
"X-Phi introduces empirical methods—surveys, experiments, and statistical analysis—to gather data about people's intuitions and judgments.
This empirical approach shifts the focus from purely abstract reasoning to testing hypotheses about philosophical concepts in real-world or controlled experimental settings."
Thus the X-PHI approach is more realistic.

As such, posters like FDP, Peter Holmes and others are fanatical with Analytic Philosophy who are arrogantly put down others from a majority voice, must take note their grounding is based on an illusion and intuitions thus of no substance and credibility in terms of FS credibility and Objectivity. FS = Framework and System.

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:58 am However, FDP and PH are so ignorant their grounding on philosophical realism is grounded on an illusion and their traditional analytical philosophy approach is grounded on intuition.
That would be odd given that Pete I am sure knows as well as I do that the logics we use in this field are all intuitive. If you want to argue at somebody who doesn't hold this position, then you probably need to target IC, he's got some sort of other thing going on where he thinks there is only one sort of logic and that it is baked into the universe in some way he is not keen to describe.

I can give an example if that helps. When I make the obvious intuitively logical point that if two competing fact claims are made, and each requires the other to be false, then either one or both claim is false because two mutually exclusive facts cannot be true at the same time.

The foundation for this sort of rule is human intuition, it is not something that could possibly be arrived at via empirical observation or experimental anything. If you want to argue at somebody who thinks this sort of thing is empirical, you can go and see if BigMike has you on his ignore list yet.

It's VA and his silly KFC-Buckets theory that is unable to accept this, and instead he has to bang on about ying and yang and things being max 99% true and so on, which is intuitively absurd.

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Are you just stupid? Seriously, you don't even seem to try and learn something. I am sure you are not retarded because at least they try and learn to compensate for their disabilities.
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Puto coming in hot and angry there. I wonder who he's annoyed at though?
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Veritas Aequitas I work hard every day and do not need an opinion for a genius like you. You just get under my skin every day. You need an education. At least read the magazine for information. I am in a bad mood right now, and taking it out on an idiot who is a self proclaimed genius. Veritas Aequitas you are and imbecile, not a fool but an imbecile. Get an education before you open your mouth.
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LOL, it was a solid 50/50 shot that I would turn out to be the bad man there
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I am sorry I lost it. I have deep respect for the disabled, at least they try to compensate for the disabilities. Again, do not copy and paste. Philosophy is not about sitting around and quoting dead philosophers, but about believing why you believe in what. Ken Taylor Stanford professor. Who I greatly admired.
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puto wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:14 am Are you just stupid? Seriously, you don't even seem to try and learn something. I am sure you are not retarded because at least they try and learn to compensate for their disabilities.
You are the stupid one who is merely blabbering with ad hominems. It that the best you can do?

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puto wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:36 am I am sorry I lost it. I have deep respect for the disabled, at least they try to compensate for the disabilities. Again, do not copy and paste. Philosophy is not about sitting around and quoting dead philosophers, but about believing why you believe in what. Ken Taylor Stanford professor. Who I greatly admired.
What is so great with Ken Taylor?
He is just another typical Analytic Philosophy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Allen_Taylor
dcd 2009, so by your words, should not quote him at all.
You are likely to be trapped within the tall dark silo of Analytic Philosophy.

Analysis is an effective tool within philosophy.
However, analytic philosophy per se with its archaic views is going the way of the dodo.
The Rise and Fall of Analytic Philosophy
Robert Hanna

https://againstprofphil.org/wp-content/ ... ly24-1.pdf

Discussed here:
viewtopic.php?t=41868

Copy and Paste?
There are times where there is a need to copy and paste to save time.
I have raised >400 threads in this forum, most of them do not involve copy and paste.
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