RACISM Is it ethical to call people RACIST with NO evidence?

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Is it ethical to call people RACIST with NO evidence?

FlashDangerpants wrote:..you are racist.
You keep calling me a racist with no evidence.

Provide a quote of me stating something racist.
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Anderson, Luvell and Michael Barnes, "Hate Speech", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Fall
2023 Edition),
Edward N. Zalta & Uri Nodelman.
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puto wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 9:17 am Anderson, Luvell and Michael Barnes, "Hate Speech", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Fall
2023 Edition),
Edward N. Zalta & Uri Nodelman.
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Is it ethical to call people RACIST with NO evidence?

FlashDangerpants wrote:..you are racist.
You keep calling me a racist with no evidence.

Provide a quote of me stating something racist.
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Ethics are guidelines of morals. Evidence is direct, or indirect. Either/Or, "All bachelors are never married males." "The cat is on the mat." Choose wisely. As in love it, or leave it. If you do not like it, then change it for the better. Validity proves everything. In deductive logic, words do not depend on the actual meaning of individual words. 1 + 1 = 3 is true according to the rules of logic. I left work cited page to a paper on racism. Did you not understand it? Use the search engine for the magazine on the word racism. This resource is respected and not a wikipedia source. You are the only one that is going to change attitudes.
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It's not ethical because , without evidence ,no allegation should be regarded as true: if you misrepresent another person (or even give a dog a bad name) you do them a disservice.

To do someone a disservice without very good justification damages yourself as well as the other person.

It may even legally be libel or slander.
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Belinda wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:10 pm It's not ethical because , without evidence ,no allegation should be regarded as true: if you misrepresent another person (or even give a dog a bad name) you do them a disservice.

To do someone a disservice without very good justification damages yourself as well as the other person.

It may even legally be libel or slander.
Well thank you.

Flashdangerpants & mickstinks truly are, slanderous and should be banned from the forum :wink:
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Belinda wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:10 pm It's not ethical because , without evidence ,no allegation should be regarded as true: if you misrepresent another person (or even give a dog a bad name) you do them a disservice.
Read what he's been writing about immigration in the "political philosophy" sub, and then bear in mind that Rick deleted several entire threads in there, and gave fishpi at least two temp bans for the contents of those.

Fishpi has misquoted me in the OP, I called him a drunken racist slob, not just a racist. All parts of that are adequately evidenced, so he can fuck off, and you can fuck off too.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:29 pm
Belinda wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:10 pm It's not ethical because , without evidence ,no allegation should be regarded as true: if you misrepresent another person (or even give a dog a bad name) you do them a disservice.
Read what he's been writing about immigration in the "political philosophy" sub, and then bear in mind that Rick deleted several entire threads in there, and gave fishpi at least two temp bans for the contents of those.

Fishpi has misquoted me in the OP, I called him a drunken racist slob, not just a racist. All parts of that are adequately evidenced, so he can fuck off, and you can fuck off too.
I vaguely remember approving of what you write, and I am usually replying to the previous post unless I say otherwise. On this occasion I was responding to Attofishpi's post just above mine .

Attofishpi may have changed their ideas and feel anxious to re-establish their reputation.
I myself have held some silly ideas until I learned better so I know people do change and adapt.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:29 pm
Belinda wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:10 pm It's not ethical because , without evidence ,no allegation should be regarded as true: if you misrepresent another person (or even give a dog a bad name) you do them a disservice.
Read what he's been writing about immigration in the "political philosophy" sub,
What? That illegal immigration & people that are invading Europe & UK are proven statistically to commit far more violent crime than the citizens of the countries they are invading.

NOTE: That is not RACIST - that is FACT.

FlashDangerpants wrote: and then bear in mind that Rick deleted several entire threads in there, and gave fishpi at least two temp bans for the contents of those.
I called Sadiq Khan a particular name that Rick didn't like and thus banned me (*and deleted the thread)

FlashDangerpants wrote:Fishpi has misquoted me in the OP, I called him a drunken racist slob, not just a racist. All parts of that are adequately evidenced, so he can fuck off, and you can fuck off too.
So.

I like a few bevvies. GOD has approved that, since I have pretty much eaten the entire tree of knowledge - i am done with GODs wrath (HELL)

..as far as RACIST goes - no I am NOT RACIST'


I am a CULTURIST - I am certain that my culture with its ethics and what it values within a Christian foundation surpasses what is being eroded by the LEFT and their disgusting vile erosion of everything that our forebears fought and died for..

Oh ye of NO faith and NO respect :evil:

You are not worthy of being British, and you are not worth_Y of Christ.
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attofishpi wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:34 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:29 pm
Belinda wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:10 pm It's not ethical because , without evidence ,no allegation should be regarded as true: if you misrepresent another person (or even give a dog a bad name) you do them a disservice.
Read what he's been writing about immigration in the "political philosophy" sub,
What? That illegal immigration & people that are invading Europe & UK are proven statistically to commit far more violent crime than the citizens of the countries they are invading.

NOTE: That is not RACIST - that is FACT.

FlashDangerpants wrote: and then bear in mind that Rick deleted several entire threads in there, and gave fishpi at least two temp bans for the contents of those.
I called Sadiq Khan a particular name that Rick didn't like and thus banned me (*and deleted the thread)

FlashDangerpants wrote:Fishpi has misquoted me in the OP, I called him a drunken racist slob, not just a racist. All parts of that are adequately evidenced, so he can fuck off, and you can fuck off too.
So.

I like a few bevvies. GOD has approved that, since I have pretty much eaten the entire tree of knowledge - i am done with GODs wrath (HELL)

..as far as RACIST goes - no I am NOT RACIST'


I am a CULTURIST - I am certain that my culture with its ethics and what it values within a Christian foundation surpasses what is being eroded by the LEFT and their disgusting vile erosion of everything that our forebears fought and died for..

Oh ye of NO faith and NO respect :evil:

You are not worthy of being British, and you are not worth_Y of Christ.
If your only source of ethics is your culture then you have failed to have an objective look at your culture. To name your culture as the only source of your ethics is a sign you are indoctrinated not educated.
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If someone has a track record of expressing.... lets say 'extreme dislike' for certain groups of people. And their given reasons for disliking those groups have nothing to do with race.

but... none of those groups are white. And the reasons are often iffy.

Is that evidence of racism?
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..precisely
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Do we have to have political yobbishness in the ethical theory sub? It's bad enough with VA dragging metaphysics in here.
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A friend from the UK assures me that one is much more likely to be randomly punched in the face by a drunken chav than by the most illegal radical Mulsim immigrant. In his case, chavs vs Muslims radicals are leading 3 to zero - and thats just from this year.

If I understand correctly a UK chav is like a US redneck, but urban, has no truck, and is more violent.
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