How is this book permitted in the UK?

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Re: How is this book permitted in the UK?

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attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:01 am
iambiguous wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:15 am
“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone” (Quran 2:191-193)
On the other hand...

https://www.ask-a-muslim.com/en/and-kil ... explained/
All the very questionable translations aside, its still apparent that GOD insists on killing.
LOL But this one's 'interpretations and translations' are NOT questionable AT ALL, right "attofishpi"?

These people could not get MORE CLOSED, here.

ALSO, AND ONCE MORE, your INTERPRETATION of 'KILLING' is NOT what is MEANT in the "quran". One day you might JUST QUESTION this Fact.
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:01 am Lots of killing for Muslims apparently - check this one
https://www.ask-a-muslim.com/en/will-me ... 2-virgins/

"..men who died and were martyred on the battlefield while fighting for Islam will get 72 Hoor al Ayn, who are beautiful maidens in Paradise."

Fighting for ISLAM (not in protection of their homes or mosques) ...they clearly interpret their KORAN the same way it reads to me - that they must KILL HUMANS for their ""religion"" and their rewards of paradise.
LOL This one, here, is ABSOLUTELY CLOSED. Like a REAL and TRUE BELIEVER.

Imagine if the one known as "attofishpi" was born into and/or raised up in the "islamic" FAITH. LOL "attofishpi" would be going around KILLING human bodies, LOL thinking and BELIEVING that it was doing the word of the One that it FOLLOWERS.

you are being ABSOLUTELY INSANE here "attofishpi".

How MANY actual "muslims" go around KILLING human bodies?

LOL "attofishpi's" INTERPRETATION/TRANSLATION could not be MORE SKEWED, TWISTED, DISTORTED, and just Truly INSANE.

And, the WORST PART OF ALL OF THIS is that it has NOT STOPPED FOR JUST ONE SECOND TO JUST CONSIDER, NOR SEEK OUT, SOMETHING ELSE.

This one, literally, BELIEVES ABSOLUTELY that its OWN INTERPRETATION is the ONE and ONLY TRUE and RIGHT ONE, ONLY.

Which is a TRUE and SURE SIGN of INSANITY, itself.
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:01 am Honestly, have you not seen them on the streets of London chanting that they love death more than we love life and that their religion is a 'warrior' religion yadayada ...Stuff not reported on mainstream news
OBVIOUSLY if one only watches so-called 'mainstream news', then the answer is, 'No', AGAIN OBVIOUSLY.

And, is EVERY one just EXPECTED to ACCEPT and BELIEVE 'your claim' here, on the SOLE BASIS OF, because "attofishpi" says so?
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:01 am Policeman in Germany stabbed to death (Afganistan """refugee""")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs9_AuG1MTU&rco=1
OH NO, one human being on the WHOLE of the planet of over eight billion human beings is stabbed to what is called 'death'.
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:01 am Hindus in Bangladesh constantly murdered by Muslims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqvvbHgoaiA
OH NO.
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:01 am North African Migrants (MUSLIMS) RIOT In Milan burn down Christian churches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBkpvE5Yn-I
OH NO.
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:01 am ..I could spend the rest of the day bringing EVIDENCE of how evil Islam has made humans..(not reported on TV news tho)
LOL
LOL
LOL

But not A SINGLE WORD, here, MENTIONED about the number of "christians" that 'MURDERED' human bodies over the SAME PERIOD.
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Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:29 am But not A SINGLE WORD, here, MENTIONED about the number of "christians" that 'MURDERED' human bodies over the SAME PERIOD.
Oh do!! Be my guest, I implore you to research the stats and provide the accounts of Christians murdering in the name of Christianity! :shock:
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Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:29 am
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:01 am Lots of killing for Muslims apparently - check this one
https://www.ask-a-muslim.com/en/will-me ... 2-virgins/

"..men who died and were martyred on the battlefield while fighting for Islam will get 72 Hoor al Ayn, who are beautiful maidens in Paradise."

Fighting for ISLAM (not in protection of their homes or mosques) ...they clearly interpret their KORAN the same way it reads to me - that they must KILL HUMANS for their ""religion"" and their rewards of paradise.
LOL This one, here, is ABSOLUTELY CLOSED. Like a REAL and TRUE BELIEVER.

Imagine if the one known as "attofishpi" was born into and/or raised up in the "islamic" FAITH. LOL "attofishpi" would be going around KILLING human bodies, LOL thinking and BELIEVING that it was doing the word of the One that it FOLLOWERS.
DUH! - PRECISELY MY POINT!!

- that the Koran is interpreted via its words! Those WORDS incite its followers, Muslims to commit acts of VIOLENCE.
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There was only one time when I was in complete agreement with Trump; that's when he called Merkel an idiot! She was as bad for Germany and by extension, the EU as it's possible to get.
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Dubious wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:57 am There was only one time when I was in complete agreement with Trump; that's when he called Merkel an idiot! She was as bad for Germany and by extension, the EU as it's possible to get.
Yep, she stuffed Europe right up.

I never liked Trump until the past couple of years. Still have some reservations but when I listened to Tulsi Gabbard a few weeks ago talk about her interactions with him I honestly think he is a rather down to Earth decent bloke.

The "left" are so extremely 'left' and the reporting and TV in general supporting their ideology, WOKE crap etc..(thank ? for internet),ya I started to wise up to it in recent couple of years. There is so much not being reported because of "race" crap and people are brainwashed into thinking ooh refugees/asylum seekers - not illegal immigrants that have no right to live in European countries.

Recently reported UK tax payers forked out around 5 billion pounds from 22/23 or 23/24 can't remember which fin period (but it increased by 1 billion pounds in the last year)

All the crap about Human Rights prevents UK from deporting rapists and murderers because oooh they may get harmed in their country of origin - well boo hoo..that's what Keir Starmer has spent his legal career doing, protecting those scum that don't deserve 'human rights'.
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Hhhmmm... let's see... if you were going to design a single act to increase recruitment for and actions by radical, violent Muslim fundamentalist groups, what could that be? Oh I know, how about an official government banning of the Quran?
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:21 am
Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:29 am But not A SINGLE WORD, here, MENTIONED about the number of "christians" that 'MURDERED' human bodies over the SAME PERIOD.
Oh do!! Be my guest, I implore you to research the stats and provide the accounts of Christians murdering in the name of Christianity! :shock:
Whole so-called "christian countries" go into other countries and FIGHT and KILL the human bodies in the 'name of God's or with the BELIEF that 'God will prevail'.

LOL It is like that this one is ABSOLUTELY OBLIVIOUS to the Fact that 'the way' that this one is SPREADING its HATRED of 'another' theology, while also BELIEVING and CLAIMING that 'its own theology' is BETTER and SUPERIOR than the 'other theologies', is the ACTUAL THONG that CAUSES others to have, and CAUSES children to 'grow up' with', the EXACT SAME HATRED of 'others', which, OBVIOUSLY, is what leads to 'the WARS', which is what IS KILLING and MURDERING human bodies, young AND old.

And, this is without even mentioning the "christian countries" where they make rule and laws up, under the BELIEF that God will protect them, but where they also BELIEVE that they need to have weapons and guns to protect "themselves", from "themselves", but end up KILLING and MURDERING each other, ANYWAY. All with some BELIEVING that they will go to 'heaven' because God, and "jesus" are their SAVIOURS.
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:24 am
Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:29 am
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:01 am Lots of killing for Muslims apparently - check this one
https://www.ask-a-muslim.com/en/will-me ... 2-virgins/

"..men who died and were martyred on the battlefield while fighting for Islam will get 72 Hoor al Ayn, who are beautiful maidens in Paradise."

Fighting for ISLAM (not in protection of their homes or mosques) ...they clearly interpret their KORAN the same way it reads to me - that they must KILL HUMANS for their ""religion"" and their rewards of paradise.
LOL This one, here, is ABSOLUTELY CLOSED. Like a REAL and TRUE BELIEVER.

Imagine if the one known as "attofishpi" was born into and/or raised up in the "islamic" FAITH. LOL "attofishpi" would be going around KILLING human bodies, LOL thinking and BELIEVING that it was doing the word of the One that it FOLLOWERS.
DUH! - PRECISELY MY POINT!!

- that the Koran is interpreted via its words! Those WORDS incite its followers, Muslims to commit acts of VIOLENCE.
LOL ONCE AGAIN you have COMPLETELY and UTTERLY MISSED 'the POINT'.

My POINT IS the words in the 'koran' are NOT, and I will repeat NOT, inviting violence AT ALL.

And, this is WHY I have kept informing you that you, and others, HAVE and are USING the Wrong and False MISINTERPRETATION, here.
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 1:42 pm
Dubious wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:57 am There was only one time when I was in complete agreement with Trump; that's when he called Merkel an idiot! She was as bad for Germany and by extension, the EU as it's possible to get.
Yep, she stuffed Europe right up.

I never liked Trump until the past couple of years. Still have some reservations but when I listened to Tulsi Gabbard a few weeks ago talk about her interactions with him I honestly think he is a rather down to Earth decent bloke.

The "left" are so extremely 'left' and the reporting and TV in general supporting their ideology, WOKE crap etc..(thank ? for internet),ya I started to wise up to it in recent couple of years. There is so much not being reported because of "race" crap and people are brainwashed into thinking ooh refugees/asylum seekers - not illegal immigrants that have no right to live in European countries.

Recently reported UK tax payers forked out around 5 billion pounds from 22/23 or 23/24 can't remember which fin period (but it increased by 1 billion pounds in the last year)

All the crap about Human Rights prevents UK from deporting rapists and murderers because oooh they may get harmed in their country of origin - well boo hoo..that's what Keir Starmer has spent his legal career doing, protecting those scum that don't deserve 'human rights'.
There is nothing in this here that aligns with God, nor "jesus". What you are showing here "attofishpi" is your ABSOLUTE HATRED for SOME human beings. Which, again, could not be MORE opposite fro God and/or "jesus". So, you can either FOLLOW your other HATE FILLED fellow human beings, and just keep doing what you are here, and thus keep the CARNAGE continuing, OR, you can just DO and FOLLOW the OPPOSITE and what you INSTINCTIVELY KNOW is good and Right.
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LuckyR wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:11 pm Hhhmmm... let's see... if you were going to design a single act to increase recruitment for and actions by radical, violent Muslim fundamentalist groups, what could that be? Oh I know, how about an official government banning of the Quran?
Some people do BELIEVE that FORCING others to follow their own particular following, cult/ure, ideology, theology, or 'way of Life' is the BEST THING for everyone.

But, this is just an unfortunate result, for some, from being born into and raised up in a cult-ure that actually believes that it is superior and better than other cult-ures are.
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LuckyR wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:11 pm Hhhmmm... let's see... if you were going to design a single act to increase recruitment for and actions by radical, violent Muslim fundamentalist groups, what could that be? Oh I know, how about an official government banning of the Quran?
Of course that's never going to happen. What I would like to happen is for the likes of Keir Starmer to get rattled about his own insistence on shutting down freedoms of expression via social media - where loads of people have been imprisoned recently simply for speaking their minds online. What is good for the goose is good for the OTHER gander.

Another thing that could come about is an agreement from the Muftis or whatever the big chiefs of Islam are called to get the various translations in order, such that those words have no ambiguity, to set in stone for their flocks of Muslims that Allah is indeed not instructing them to kill in the name of Islam. Something akin to a reformation for Islam to be accepted in the West.
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Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:29 am All with some BELIEVING that they will go to 'heaven' because God, and "jesus" are their SAVIOURS.
So it's not done in the name of Christianity - Christ never instructed anyone to kill anyone, unlike Morhammad's Islamic teachings.
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Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:37 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:24 am
Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:29 am

LOL This one, here, is ABSOLUTELY CLOSED. Like a REAL and TRUE BELIEVER.

Imagine if the one known as "attofishpi" was born into and/or raised up in the "islamic" FAITH. LOL "attofishpi" would be going around KILLING human bodies, LOL thinking and BELIEVING that it was doing the word of the One that it FOLLOWERS.
DUH! - PRECISELY MY POINT!!

- that the Koran is interpreted via its words! Those WORDS incite its followers, Muslims to commit acts of VIOLENCE.
LOL ONCE AGAIN you have COMPLETELY and UTTERLY MISSED 'the POINT'.
Clearly it would be pointless of me to explain the irony. :lol:
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Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:47 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 1:42 pm
Dubious wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:57 am There was only one time when I was in complete agreement with Trump; that's when he called Merkel an idiot! She was as bad for Germany and by extension, the EU as it's possible to get.
Yep, she stuffed Europe right up.

I never liked Trump until the past couple of years. Still have some reservations but when I listened to Tulsi Gabbard a few weeks ago talk about her interactions with him I honestly think he is a rather down to Earth decent bloke.

The "left" are so extremely 'left' and the reporting and TV in general supporting their ideology, WOKE crap etc..(thank ? for internet),ya I started to wise up to it in recent couple of years. There is so much not being reported because of "race" crap and people are brainwashed into thinking ooh refugees/asylum seekers - not illegal immigrants that have no right to live in European countries.

Recently reported UK tax payers forked out around 5 billion pounds from 22/23 or 23/24 can't remember which fin period (but it increased by 1 billion pounds in the last year)

All the crap about Human Rights prevents UK from deporting rapists and murderers because oooh they may get harmed in their country of origin - well boo hoo..that's what Keir Starmer has spent his legal career doing, protecting those scum that don't deserve 'human rights'.
There is nothing in this here that aligns with God, nor "jesus". What you are showing here "attofishpi" is your ABSOLUTE HATRED for SOME human beings.
Yes, I suppose I am not a perfect Christian when I admit that I hate paedophiles and murdering rapists etc..
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attofishpi wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:21 am
Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:29 am All with some BELIEVING that they will go to 'heaven' because God, and "jesus" are their SAVIOURS.
So it's not done in the name of Christianity - Christ never instructed anyone to kill anyone, unlike Morhammad's Islamic teachings.
ONCE AGAIN, 'mohammed" NEVER instructed ANY to harm, maim, NOR kill ANY body.

ONCE AGAIN, you, along with billions of others, have MISINTERPRETED what was and is MEANT, and INTENDED.

And, just like followers of other theologies so-called "christians" MURDER other bodies for 'their chosen religion'.
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