Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Fairy wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 7:45 am
Age wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:15 pm
Fairy wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:32 pm Oblivion is our only true and real home.
And, 'home' IS HERE-NOW.

So, to "fairy" anyway, ALL of this INCREDIBLY AMAZING SPECTACULAR, known as the Universe, being WITNESSED, HERE-NOW, is ALSO so-called 'oblivion', itself.
Fairy wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:32 pm “You spend your whole life stuck in the labyrinth, thinking about how you’ll escape it one day, and how awesome it will be, and imagining that future keeps you going, but you never do it. You just use the future to escape the present.”
WHO is the 'you', here, exactly?

And, what do 'you' do this for, exactly?
“The you” is an imagined character no one is dreaming into apparent being. “The you”( is ) as a unicorn 🦄 ( is )

Here now is oblivion. NOWHERE
1. If 'the you', that 'you', the one known HERE as "fairy", claims is an 'imagined character', then by WHO and/or WHAT, EXACTLY, is doing this IMAGINING, HERE-NOW?

2. WHY do 'you' "fairy", and/or the WHO and/or WHAT, EXACTLY, keep CLAIMING that HERE-NOW IS 'oblivion', and NOWHERE. Obviously, what is being called 'NOWHERE', IS HERE.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:05 am
Fairy wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 7:45 am
Age wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:15 pm

And, 'home' IS HERE-NOW.

So, to "fairy" anyway, ALL of this INCREDIBLY AMAZING SPECTACULAR, known as the Universe, being WITNESSED, HERE-NOW, is ALSO so-called 'oblivion', itself.


WHO is the 'you', here, exactly?

And, what do 'you' do this for, exactly?
“The you” is an imagined character no one is dreaming into apparent being. “The you”( is ) as a unicorn 🦄 ( is )

Here now is oblivion. NOWHERE
1. If 'the you', that 'you', the one known HERE as "fairy", claims is an 'imagined character', then by WHO and/or WHAT, EXACTLY, is doing this IMAGINING, HERE-NOW?

2. WHY do 'you' "fairy", and/or the WHO and/or WHAT, EXACTLY, keep CLAIMING that HERE-NOW IS 'oblivion', and NOWHERE. Obviously, what is being called 'NOWHERE', IS HERE.
The answers to the Who / What / Why questions: is OBLIVION
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Fairy wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:17 am
Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:05 am
Fairy wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 7:45 am

“The you” is an imagined character no one is dreaming into apparent being. “The you”( is ) as a unicorn 🦄 ( is )

Here now is oblivion. NOWHERE
1. If 'the you', that 'you', the one known HERE as "fairy", claims is an 'imagined character', then by WHO and/or WHAT, EXACTLY, is doing this IMAGINING, HERE-NOW?

2. WHY do 'you' "fairy", and/or the WHO and/or WHAT, EXACTLY, keep CLAIMING that HERE-NOW IS 'oblivion', and NOWHERE. Obviously, what is being called 'NOWHERE', IS HERE.
The answers to the Who / What / Why questions: is OBLIVION
When you say, 'The answers to ...', above here, 'you' mean to "fairy", and maybe some others only, right?

As 'the answers' to those questions are NOT 'the answer', which 'you' provided here, for the rest of 'us', here.

So, just to make this ABSOLUTELY CLEAR 'the answers' to those questions are NOT what that one human being known as "fairy" just claimed, to 'me'. And, 'the answers' that 'I' have means there are NO mysteries, here, ALSO.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:39 pm
Fairy wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:17 am
Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:05 am

1. If 'the you', that 'you', the one known HERE as "fairy", claims is an 'imagined character', then by WHO and/or WHAT, EXACTLY, is doing this IMAGINING, HERE-NOW?

2. WHY do 'you' "fairy", and/or the WHO and/or WHAT, EXACTLY, keep CLAIMING that HERE-NOW IS 'oblivion', and NOWHERE. Obviously, what is being called 'NOWHERE', IS HERE.
The answers to the Who / What / Why questions: is OBLIVION
When you say, 'The answers to ...', above here, 'you' mean to "fairy", and maybe some others only, right?

As 'the answers' to those questions are NOT 'the answer', which 'you' provided here, for the rest of 'us', here.

So, just to make this ABSOLUTELY CLEAR 'the answers' to those questions are NOT what that one human being known as "fairy" just claimed, to 'me'. And, 'the answers' that 'I' have means there are NO mysteries, here, ALSO.
Right you are then.

If you say so.

But for me here, I get my truth claims from my personal experience.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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I am in love with you. And I know that love is just a shout into the void, and that oblivion is inevitable, and that we're all doomed. And that one day all our labor will be returned to dust. And I know that the sun will swallow the only earth we will ever have. And I am in love with you.

That's a thing about pain. It demands to be felt.

Apparently the world is not a wish-granting factory. - (The Fault In Our Stars)
This quote, often attributed to John Green's novel "The Fault in Our Stars," is a reminder that life does not always fulfill our desires and expectations. It serves as a realistic perspective, highlighting the fact that the world does not exist solely to grant our wishes. It implies that instead of relying on wishful thinking, one must acknowledge and accept the unavoidable limitations and challenges that life presents. It encourages individuals to find resilience, adaptability, and a sense of agency to navigate a world that does not always align with their wishes.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Fairy wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:09 am
Age wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:39 pm
Fairy wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:17 am

The answers to the Who / What / Why questions: is OBLIVION
When you say, 'The answers to ...', above here, 'you' mean to "fairy", and maybe some others only, right?

As 'the answers' to those questions are NOT 'the answer', which 'you' provided here, for the rest of 'us', here.

So, just to make this ABSOLUTELY CLEAR 'the answers' to those questions are NOT what that one human being known as "fairy" just claimed, to 'me'. And, 'the answers' that 'I' have means there are NO mysteries, here, ALSO.
Right you are then.

If you say so.

But for me here, I get my truth claims from my personal experience.
Thus the very WHY some of your 'truth claims' do NOT align with what is 'ACTUALLY True', on Life, AT ALL.

Basing 'truth claims', on one's own 'past experiences' only, although is very common in the days when this is being written, is WHY you adult human beings are LOST, CONFUSED, and in constant CONFLICT.

Again, how to find the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth of things is NOT by viewing and seeing fron one's own 'past experiences', only NOR firstly. 'That way' will lead you all astray.

HOW to recognize, find, and know the actual Truth of things is done by 'the way: that I have expressed, here, previously.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Age wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:20 pm

Thus the very WHY some of your 'truth claims' do NOT align with what is 'ACTUALLY True', on Life, AT ALL.

Basing 'truth claims', on one's own 'past experiences' only, although is very common in the days when this is being written, is WHY you adult human beings are LOST, CONFUSED, and in constant CONFLICT.

I’ll just put that response down to the fault in my stars then.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Gary Childress wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:23 am Is Hell better than oblivion?

Presumably hell is unbearable torment. And if the torment is unbearable, then wouldn't not feeling anything at all be a better state of affairs?

Thoughts?
“I let go. Lost in oblivion. Dark and silent and complete. I found freedom. Losing all hope was freedom.”

The heavy burden and gravity of the things we are willing to do for Love. Is a fool’s paradise.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Gary Childress wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:23 am Is Hell better than oblivion?

Presumably hell is unbearable torment. And if the torment is unbearable, then wouldn't not feeling anything at all be a better state of affairs?

Thoughts?
There is no answer. That's what Buddhism says. The Void, oblivion, no answer. To be in that state is an enlightened state.

And the devil replied: I’d rather rule on earth that serve in heaven.
The saying is from John Milton's book Paradise Lost - Book II and says that it is better to rule over - be like a king in hell than to serve somebody as a slave in heaven. So it means it is better to be in a bad place and rule over the place rather than to go to a good place and work as a servant there.

Choose your poison. ☠️
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