Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Age wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:51 am
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:44 am Ecclesiastes 4:2

And I declared that the dead, who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive.


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WHY did they ONLY do this in the 'past' tense? And,

WHY did they NOT do this in the 'current' tense?
It’s better to have not been born than to be born, is my opinion anyway.

However, a lot of people like being alive, they like the idea of making more of themselves through reproduction. Even already knowing what awaits the newborns. Already knowing doesn’t seem to put people off from wanting to reproduce. So that’s just more proof that hell is bearable.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:35 am Age..you are missing the point.

Hell is not unbearable torture.
WHO says so?

And, this claim is based up on 'what', EXACTLY?
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:35 am If it was unbearable; the torture would kill you as you wouldn’t be able to bear it.
Did you MISS when I stated that one could just 'move away', or just 'walk away', from what is 'un-bear-able', BEFORE the 'torture' would, supposedly, "kill" them?
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:35 am Therefore since there’s billions of people still alive right now, proves that hell is bearable torture and never unbearable torture.
LOL When you people talk about 'hell' MOST OF you think or imagine 'it' is 'some place' when one goes AFTER they are, individually, ALREADY 'dead'.

So,

1. you will first have to EXPLAIN WHERE IS and WHAT IS 'hell', EXACTLY.

2. Then you need to provide examples of HOW you people are, supposedly, 'killed' FROM 'torture'.

I AGREE that the word 'unbearable' IMPLIES of one WOULD 'die' if 'living' in an 'unbearable' environment. But, as I have ALREADY EXPLAINED if some place is 'unbearable', to them, or even, seemingly, 'unbearable', to them, then they can just WALK AWAY, FIRST.

Also, let 'us' NOT FORGET that a sense, emotion, or thought is NOT necessarily what is ACTUALLY True. For example, one could be thinking 'this is unbearable', but this is in 'thought' ONLY. But, the 'torture' in which the 'thought' is derived from may NOT kill the 'body', AT ALL. And, when you talk about 'being alive' and 'killed' you are talking about and referring to the 'body', right?
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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LOL
LOL
LOL

:mrgreen:

..two people with no idea discuss something neither has experience of... :twisted:
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:01 am
Age wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:51 am
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:44 am Ecclesiastes 4:2

And I declared that the dead, who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive.


⬆️
My favourite place. ❤️💜
WHY did they ONLY do this in the 'past' tense? And,

WHY did they NOT do this in the 'current' tense?
It’s better to have not been born than to be born, is my opinion anyway.
Yes 'we' are WELL AWARE of this.

However, I asked you what I did, ONLY.
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:01 am However, a lot of people like being alive, they like the idea of making more of themselves through reproduction.
And, there are some who like being alive, who do not like the idea of making more of themselves, through any way.
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:01 am Even already knowing what awaits the newborns.
What, exactly, does AWAIT the newborns?
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:01 am Already knowing doesn’t seem to put people off from wanting to reproduce.
Already knowing what you do is Wrong, not just for you, but for others and children also, does not seem to put you off from wanting to keep doing what you KNOW is Wrong, also.
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:01 am So that’s just more proof that hell is bearable.
If you do NOT define your words, here, when ASKED, then you are NOT PRODUCING ANY PROOF AT ALL, here.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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attofishpi wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:08 am LOL
LOL
LOL

:mrgreen:

..two people with no idea discuss something neither has experience of... :twisted:
How completely and utterly Wrong this one is, AGAIN.

Unless, OF COURSE, this one could SHOW and PROVE what I, supposedly, have NO idea, EXACTLY, as well SHOW and PROVE what 'it' is, EXACTLY, which I, supposedly, have NO experience of, AS WELL.

Now, either SHOW and PROVE things, here, or what 'we' can CLEARLY SEE is another one ATTEMPTING to CLAIM some 'thing', of which, REALLY, it is 'the one' with NO REAL idea, here.
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attofishpi wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:08 am LOL
LOL
LOL

:mrgreen:

..two people with no idea discuss something neither has experience of... :twisted:
Shut up. Or say something relevant. Idiot.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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“If you do NOT define your words, here, when ASKED, then you are NOT PRODUCING ANY PROOF AT ALL, here.”


Hell cannot be unbearable is proof that hell is bearable, ok, is that proof enough?
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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“What, exactly, does AWAIT the newborns?”

Life awaits.

And you do not need me to tell you what can happen to anyone who is a sentient conscious being with a fully functioning nervous system.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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?Age
Real, or mental put simply.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:22 am “If you do NOT define your words, here, when ASKED, then you are NOT PRODUCING ANY PROOF AT ALL, here.”


Hell cannot be unbearable is proof that hell is bearable, ok, is that proof enough?
NO.

Just saying and/or claiming some thing is true is NOT 'proof' AT ALL.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:25 am “What, exactly, does AWAIT the newborns?”

Life awaits.
But, if 'they' are a 'new born', then 'they' are 'already born', into Life, Itself. Therefore, Life, Itself is NOT WAITING for 'them', anymore.

Also, 'their life', has ALREADY BEGUN, so 'that life' is ALSO NOT WAITING, anymore.
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:25 am And you do not need me to tell you what can happen to anyone who is a sentient conscious being with a fully functioning nervous system.
Maybe so. However, if I want to KNOW what 'you' are thinking about, here, then I do NEED 'you' to TELL 'me' what 'you' think can happen to anyone who is a sentient conscious being with a fully functioning nervous system.

By the way, WHY have you STOPPED quoting 'me' above, here?
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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puto wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:27 am
?Age
Real, or mental put simply.
I have NO idea AT ALL what your words mean or are referring to, exactly.

Also, why do you write "Age" in a quote box, with NO other words NOR any link to absolutely ANY thing, and WHY did you put a question mark before the "age" word?
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Age wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:50 am
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:22 am “If you do NOT define your words, here, when ASKED, then you are NOT PRODUCING ANY PROOF AT ALL, here.”


Hell cannot be unbearable is proof that hell is bearable, ok, is that proof enough?
NO.

Just saying and/or claiming some thing is true is NOT 'proof' AT ALL.
Right, then there’s no other proof of what is claimed via concept.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Age wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:55 am
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:25 am “What, exactly, does AWAIT the newborns?”

Life awaits.
But, if 'they' are a 'new born', then 'they' are 'already born', into Life, Itself. Therefore, Life, Itself is NOT WAITING for 'them', anymore.

Also, 'their life', has ALREADY BEGUN, so 'that life' is ALSO NOT WAITING, anymore.
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:25 am And you do not need me to tell you what can happen to anyone who is a sentient conscious being with a fully functioning nervous system.
Maybe so. However, if I want to KNOW what 'you' are thinking about, here, then I do NEED 'you' to TELL 'me' what 'you' think can happen to anyone who is a sentient conscious being with a fully functioning nervous system.

By the way, WHY have you STOPPED quoting 'me' above, here?
I’ve stopped quoting you because I’m using my iPad. It’s harder to quote using an iPad, so I just use the easiest method.
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Re: Is Hell better than oblivion?

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Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:36 am
Age wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:50 am
Fairy wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:22 am “If you do NOT define your words, here, when ASKED, then you are NOT PRODUCING ANY PROOF AT ALL, here.”


Hell cannot be unbearable is proof that hell is bearable, ok, is that proof enough?
NO.

Just saying and/or claiming some thing is true is NOT 'proof' AT ALL.
Right, then there’s no other proof of what is claimed via concept.
Yes there is. Why do you BELIEVE that there is NOT?
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