attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:17 am
..got about 4 beers and a bottle of Chardonnay left for din dins..(after 6 Italian Peronis)
..doesnt change the fact that GOD crucified me/
I have felt extreme torment at times when I was scared to the point of insanity. However, doctors have given me medicine to remove the visions I was having and it seems to largely work. Still, I have bad thoughts about my future and fear death and stuff like that.
I suppose it could be because of God that I had those thoughts. In a sense it could be God telling me to change. But I'm not sure what changes God would want me to make. I don't feel like I have done anything substantially wrong, especially when compared to murderers and warmongers who don't seem to be paralyzed with fear like that. I mean, why would God torment me into paralysis but seemingly let people who are guilty of murder go unscathed in life? It seems counter intuitive to me.
Alright so I'm a little whimsical as I've just watched TED2 fuck, a pot smoking best friend bear who wouldn't want one of those..
So Gazza, clearly u fucked up - GOD is definitely fucking with u for some reason. TIME to man up and logic shit out ...
attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:17 am
..got about 4 beers and a bottle of Chardonnay left for din dins..(after 6 Italian Peronis)
..doesnt change the fact that GOD crucified me/
I have felt extreme torment at times when I was scared to the point of insanity. However, doctors have given me medicine to remove the visions I was having and it seems to largely work. Still, I have bad thoughts about my future and fear death and stuff like that.
I suppose it could be because of God that I had those thoughts. In a sense it could be God telling me to change. But I'm not sure what changes God would want me to make. I don't feel like I have done anything substantially wrong, especially when compared to murderers and warmongers who don't seem to be paralyzed with fear like that. I mean, why would God torment me into paralysis but seemingly let people who are guilty of murder go unscathed in life? It seems counter intuitive to me.
Were you brought up in an extremely religious household?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:17 am
..got about 4 beers and a bottle of Chardonnay left for din dins..(after 6 Italian Peronis)
..doesnt change the fact that GOD crucified me/
I have felt extreme torment at times when I was scared to the point of insanity. However, doctors have given me medicine to remove the visions I was having and it seems to largely work. Still, I have bad thoughts about my future and fear death and stuff like that.
I suppose it could be because of God that I had those thoughts. In a sense it could be God telling me to change. But I'm not sure what changes God would want me to make. I don't feel like I have done anything substantially wrong, especially when compared to murderers and warmongers who don't seem to be paralyzed with fear like that. I mean, why would God torment me into paralysis but seemingly let people who are guilty of murder go unscathed in life? It seems counter intuitive to me.
Were you brought up in an extremely religious household?
No. I was brought up in more of an areligious household. We never went to church and never discussed religion. My Dad said the word "God" sometimes but it was usually in anger.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:17 am
..got about 4 beers and a bottle of Chardonnay left for din dins..(after 6 Italian Peronis)
..doesnt change the fact that GOD crucified me/
I have felt extreme torment at times when I was scared to the point of insanity. However, doctors have given me medicine to remove the visions I was having and it seems to largely work. Still, I have bad thoughts about my future and fear death and stuff like that.
I suppose it could be because of God that I had those thoughts. In a sense it could be God telling me to change. But I'm not sure what changes God would want me to make. I don't feel like I have done anything substantially wrong, especially when compared to murderers and warmongers who don't seem to be paralyzed with fear like that. I mean, why would God torment me into paralysis but seemingly let people who are guilty of murder go unscathed in life? It seems counter intuitive to me.
Alright so I'm a little whimsical as I've just watched TED2 fuck, a pot smoking best friend bear who wouldn't want one of those..
So Gazza, clearly u fucked up - GOD is definitely fucking with u for some reason. TIME to man up and logic shit out ...
I don't know why God would be fucking with me. Most of my visions are paranoid ones where I become frightened by people and things around me. I start to see evil people around me and think they are going to hurt me. I mean, what is God trying to tell me in that? Should I fear EVERYONE around me? I don't understand what good comes from it. I usually end up on meds and that calms me down.
I have felt extreme torment at times when I was scared to the point of insanity. However, doctors have given me medicine to remove the visions I was having and it seems to largely work. Still, I have bad thoughts about my future and fear death and stuff like that.
I suppose it could be because of God that I had those thoughts. In a sense it could be God telling me to change. But I'm not sure what changes God would want me to make. I don't feel like I have done anything substantially wrong, especially when compared to murderers and warmongers who don't seem to be paralyzed with fear like that. I mean, why would God torment me into paralysis but seemingly let people who are guilty of murder go unscathed in life? It seems counter intuitive to me.
Alright so I'm a little whimsical as I've just watched TED2 fuck, a pot smoking best friend bear who wouldn't want one of those..
So Gazza, clearly u fucked up - GOD is definitely fucking with u for some reason. TIME to man up and logic shit out ...
I don't know why God would be fucking with me.
Do not be worried at all here. God NEVER so-calls 'fucks' with ANY one.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:50 am
Most of my visions are paranoid ones where I become frightened by people and things around me. I start to see evil people around me and think they are going to hurt me. I mean, what is God trying to tell me in that? Should I fear EVERYONE around me? I don't understand what good comes from it. I usually end up on meds and that calms me down.
I have felt extreme torment at times when I was scared to the point of insanity. However, doctors have given me medicine to remove the visions I was having and it seems to largely work. Still, I have bad thoughts about my future and fear death and stuff like that.
I suppose it could be because of God that I had those thoughts. In a sense it could be God telling me to change. But I'm not sure what changes God would want me to make. I don't feel like I have done anything substantially wrong, especially when compared to murderers and warmongers who don't seem to be paralyzed with fear like that. I mean, why would God torment me into paralysis but seemingly let people who are guilty of murder go unscathed in life? It seems counter intuitive to me.
Alright so I'm a little whimsical as I've just watched TED2 fuck, a pot smoking best friend bear who wouldn't want one of those..
So Gazza, clearly u fucked up - GOD is definitely fucking with u for some reason. TIME to man up and logic shit out ...
I don't know why God would be fucking with me. Most of my visions are paranoid ones where I become frightened by people and things around me. I start to see evil people around me and think they are going to hurt me. I mean, what is God trying to tell me in that? Should I fear EVERYONE around me? I don't understand what good comes from it. I usually end up on meds and that calms me down.
When I say "logic shit out" ---> the first thing is IF U R DEALING WIV GOD-----> is have some faith in Christ.
Easy Peesy.
In the Name of the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Alright so I'm a little whimsical as I've just watched TED2 fuck, a pot smoking best friend bear who wouldn't want one of those..
So Gazza, clearly u fucked up - GOD is definitely fucking with u for some reason. TIME to man up and logic shit out ...
I don't know why God would be fucking with me. Most of my visions are paranoid ones where I become frightened by people and things around me. I start to see evil people around me and think they are going to hurt me. I mean, what is God trying to tell me in that? Should I fear EVERYONE around me? I don't understand what good comes from it. I usually end up on meds and that calms me down.
When I say "logic shit out" ---> the first thing is IF U R DEALING WIV GOD-----> is have some faith in Christ.
Easy Peesy.
In the Name of the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit.
...a prayer or two -- for FAITH.
Easy.
OK. But when I'm in a paranoid psychosis, I can't logic anything out. I'm scared shitless and can't do anything but pull a pillow over my head or something.
I don't know why God would be fucking with me. Most of my visions are paranoid ones where I become frightened by people and things around me. I start to see evil people around me and think they are going to hurt me. I mean, what is God trying to tell me in that? Should I fear EVERYONE around me? I don't understand what good comes from it. I usually end up on meds and that calms me down.
When I say "logic shit out" ---> the first thing is IF U R DEALING WIV GOD-----> is have some faith in Christ.
Easy Peesy.
In the Name of the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit.
...a prayer or two -- for FAITH.
Easy.
OK. But when I'm in a paranoid psychosis, I can't logic anything out. I'm scared shitless and can't do anything but pull a pillow over my head or something.
..ah yeah, that's the time where a man doesn't reach for a pillow, just asks within a simple prayer.
TRUST me, the life of Brian.
About 3 weaks/weeks ago the GOD entity in quest_ion TESTED me when I was renovating my bathroom - I won't go into what happened and Y but so many times I've had a prayer for that JEWISH KUNT it was upon the toilet.
This time the JEW was splitting one of my toes apart - and I asked GOD for strength and some other shit that it was pissing me off about at the time - -then it fucked off--- seriously , GOD can kiss my Christian arse fuck GOD!! ...but back to the plan - it doesn't appear to care for pathetic excuses - just be honest with it.
When I say "logic shit out" ---> the first thing is IF U R DEALING WIV GOD-----> is have some faith in Christ.
Easy Peesy.
In the Name of the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit.
...a prayer or two -- for FAITH.
Easy.
OK. But when I'm in a paranoid psychosis, I can't logic anything out. I'm scared shitless and can't do anything but pull a pillow over my head or something.
..ah yeah, that's the time where a man doesn't reach for a pillow, just asks within a simple prayer.
TRUST me, the life of Brian.
About 3 weaks/weeks ago the GOD entity in quest_ion TESTED me when I was renovating my bathroom - I won't go into what happened and Y but so many times I've had a prayer for that JEWISH KUNT it was upon the toilet.
This time the JEW was splitting one of my toes apart - and I asked GOD for strength and some other shit that it was pissing me off about at the time - -then it fucked off--- seriously , GOD can kiss my Christian arse fuck GOD!! ...but back to the plan - it doesn't appear to care for pathetic excuses - just be honest with it.
IT'S not a JEW, it converted.
Hmm. Sounds like you had or are having what psychologists would call a "psychosis". A psychosis is a malfunction of the brain because it doesn't convey experience to us accurately. Or at least, that's a psychologist's position, I think.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:01 am
If it is an indisputable fact that everything is pre-determined--as BigMike seems to postulate--then what? Does that change ANYTHING about us? And if it does change something about us, what exactly does it change?
Talk about absurd debates...
His Bigness has backed away from any such claim. He seemed to have started in that vein but lately has revised (or better explained) his position. In my reading he is essentially an anti-supernaturalist and in this he fits in with a larger, general trend.
His Bigness is interested in ideological projects that allow for the “remaking of man” along struct scientific lines. He seems to propose a New Anthropology based in behavior modification the purpose of which is to create a man with a specifically scientific understanding of human existence.
The topic of what he proposes and how and why he came to it is anything but irrelevant. No one seems yet to have picked up on the implications … and they take him to task on limited, specific points.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:47 am
Is it true, though, that Christian morality is undermined by determinism?
And if so, what about Christian morality is not compatible with determinism?
By “hard determinism’, yes. In hard determinism there can be no choice and certainly no free choice.
His Bigness does not believe that men are morally culpable for what they do, so he denies any metaphysical notion of moral blame. However, he is not a hard determinist but has a ‘softer’ position.
Really, the origin of his ideas would have to be more closely examined.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:47 am
Is it true, though, that Christian morality is undermined by determinism?
No, theology is not philosophy and it always permits self-serving double-dealing in a way that philosophy cannot get away with.
So in theology it is fine for you to be held responsible for decisions that an all knowing God who sees time both backwards and forwards is both completely aware of in advance and somehow surprised by. If you find that perplexing, then you are a wicked individual who - for reasons obvious to the theologian alone - clearly deserves to have his genitals tortured for eternity by the devil.
BigMike is also not doing philosophy and is therefore in charge of whether his dysfunctional theory gets to do the same sort of self-serving double-dealing as theology. He chose yes. His theory is sort of similar to "morality-proper" in that respect, as he gives himself permission to discard large lumps of morality but fool himself he's kept exactly the important bit.
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