attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
A REASON THAT GOD/"GOD" WILL/DOES EXIST:--->
The ebb and flow of a cause and effect universe eventually ceases its natural progression as life evolves into an increasingly intelligent form.
Well this, besides not making sense, is obviously False and Wrong.
HOW could a cause/d and effect/ed Universe, supposedly, eventually cease, just because 'life' continually evolves into an increasingly intelligent form?
And, WHEN, exactly, do you BELIEVE, absolutely, that the Universe, Itself, WILL 'eventually cease'? In other words, in what 'part' of the 'life' evolving into an increasingly intelligent form does the Universe, laughingly, just ceases to exist it 'natural progression'.
LOL Does ANY of what you just said and claimed, here, make sense?
If yes, then what part/s, and HOW, exactly?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
The more intelligent the life-form, the greater the opposition to this natural causal outcome.
So, the 'NATURAL PROGRESSION' is, supposedly, towards an increasingly intelligent life form, BUT, the more intelligent a life-form becomes the, supposed, GREATER the OPPOSITION to the, supposed, NATURAL PROGRESSION and NATURAL CAUSAL OUTCOME.
Obviously, you can NOT SEE the BLATANT CONTRADICTION, here, but this may well be just because of your obvious BELIEF, here.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
Intelligent life forms require increasing amounts of energy to sustain their lifestyle. As resources diminish these lifeforms must interface to a super efficient state.
OR, those 'lifeforms' could just STOP being Truly STUPID beings and just STOP doing what is CAUSING the diminishing of NEEDED resources.
Obviously, the, SUPPOSED, 'increasingly intelligent life form', being talked about here, is NOT intelligent AT ALL.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
Conscious awareness must eventually evolve into an overiding intelligent system, created by such intelligent beings in the first place. This intelligent system, lets call it 'God' simulates reality by feeding our five senses the world around us.
Ultimately, it 'judges' whether each sub-entity (us humans) has the right to reincarnate and continue to make use of the limited resources as entropy of the system increases.
you adult human beings do not, and I will repeat, DO NOT, have a right to reincarnate and continue to make the Wrong use of the limited resources that you ALL have been doing, in the days when this is being written.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
In a nutshell. If i took your brain and fed it the five senses you currently are akin to, you could lead the same life, albeit simulated, with super-efficiency.
Was this written on what someone called 'bonkers day'?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
Now resources are in decline, conservation of energy is of paramount importance to maintain our conscious awareness into the distant future...
If you say so. But others would NOT.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
One can only conclude that it is more likely that this will eventuate than that it wouldn't.
One can also conclude then, that there is a very high probability that this has already occurred and that God exists.
ANY one of you human beings can 'conclude' absolutely ANY thing of 'your choosing', but WHY would ANY one 'conclude' what you just have, here?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
Cumulative Evidence of GOD, beyond a Reasonable Doubt.
The most commonly used greeting upon the planet..
Evidence
1. HELLO = HELL owe 
For some thing to be the 'most commonly used', then 'that thing' would have to be the 'most commonly used'. you claim that the word 'hello' is the 'most commonly used' greeting upon the planet earth, what actual proof do you have for this BELIEF and CLAIM of yours, here, exactly?
Also, 'how in the hell' does it 'logically follow' that even if the most commonly used greeting upon planet earth was 'hello', which you, alone maybe, equates to 'hell owe', and that this in and of itself is part of, supposed and alleged, 'cumulative evidence' of God, Itself, and of 'beyond a reasonable doubt', exactly?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:39 am
I want real and direct cumulative evidences.
Where is the empirically verified and justified evidences?
Well, wouldn't it be pertinent of you to now grab an etymology dictionary and state where the word: "HELLO" originated naturally, ya know without DIVINE causation, which is what I am arguing for.
Even if you argued, soundly and validly, for 'divine causation', what does the word 'God' even mean, or refer to, to you, EXACTLY?
And, if it is ONLY some words in one ONLY language out of the countless other languages used by a, supposed, 'increasingly intelligent life form, then what is so 'divine' about this?
Was God NOT smart NOR intelligent enough to use the spelling or pronunciation of words in other languages, as well, to 'hint at' Its own existence?
WHY would God pick and use ONE language, ONLY?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
You need to prove that what I am presenting as evidence of language manipulation by an overarching GOD is mere natural coincidences, indeed just random quirks of the language English.
Absolutely NO one NEEDS to do, NOR to prove, ANY such thing as what you just claimed, here.
However, if you want to keep CLAIMING what you are 'trying to' here, then it is UP TO 'you' to PROVE that what you are saying and claiming here is ACTUAL 'cumulative evidence of 'God', and of 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.
Also, let 'us' NOT FORGET that 'evidence' is just absolutely WORTHLESS and USELESS when compared with ACTUAL PROOF.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
But the more they cumulate, the less reasonable your position remains.
Veritas, did a wo/man create the lettering used in English to be phonetically identical to words, or just a random coincidence, or more likely, did an overarching being capable of manipulating REAL_IT_Y (GOD) cause it to be so?
Well, and OBVIOUSLY, those who BELIEVE, absolutely, that God exists and has an overarching control over absolutely EVERY thing will just say, God created 'the lettering used ...'. While, just as OBVIOUS, is those who BELIEVE, absolutely, that God does NOT exist and did NOT have an overarching control over the lettering used in the "English" language would just say, that 'the human beings who created the lettering used ...'. While those who BELIEVE, absolutely, that EVERY thing is just a random coincidence will just say that 'the lettering used in the "english" language is just a 'random coincidence'.
Now, what does "veritas" BELIEVE, absolutely? Find that out, FIRST, then you will, also, ALREADY KNOW what its answer WILL BE, here.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
Some examples (not all)..
Evidence
2. Y = why?
Evidence
3. O = owe
Evidence
4. U = you
Evidence
5. A = eh?
Evidence
6. C = see, speed of light symbol
Evidence
7. I = eye
Evidence
8. R = are, our
Statistically, the likelihood of any of the above (phonetically identical) being mere coincidences is extremely remote.
So, supposedly, statistically, if the likelihood of any of the above 'phonetically identical' letters being mere coincidences is 'extremely remote', then this MEANS, 'coincidentally', and ABSOLUTELY, the EXACT SAME 'thing' that "attofishpi" was BELIEVING was ABSOLUTELY TRUE, beforehand.
Some just call and refer to 'this phenomena' as 'confirmation bias'. But, then again, some are SO BLINDED by their OWN BELIEFS that COMPLETELY MISS and do NOT SEE WHERE and WHEN 'confirmation biases' are talking place, EXACTLY.
Also, and just out of curiosity, how does the letter 'R' sound phonetically identical to the word 'our', and, what about 'B' equaling be or bee, 'P' equaling pee, 'Q' equally cue or queue, 'W' equaling double you, and/or 'X' equaling ex? Were these NOT included in by the so-called 'overarching Being that is capable of manipulating so-called 'reality'? Were these ones just a 'random coincidence'? Or, were these ones just added in by you human beings, for some reason?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
With approximately 170,000 words in current use within the Oxford English Dictionary and 22 words phonetically identical to letters, the odds of, for instance, Y being equal to WHY are calculated at:
1 in 7,692 or 0.00013 (0.013%)
Some people may well have won lottery draws with less odds than that. But, stranger things do happen, right?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
But of course, the odds are far more remote than even that. Y for example could sound like anything that our larynx is capable of resonating
So could ANY other letter, number, word, or even symbol. I think you might actually be 'countering' your own claim here, with 'logic', now.
But, by the way, what you are ALLUDING TO, here, is actually IRREFUTABLY True, Right, Accurate, and Correct, but 'the things' that you are USING here could well have come about because of 'coincidences' just as much as what you are saying and claiming.
So, 'you' human beings WILL just HAVE TO WAIT, to FIND OUT what the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth is, HERE, EXACTLY.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:47 am
Evidence
9. REALITY = REAL IT Y
Evidence
10. RAPE = our APE
Evidence
11. CHEAT = see HEAT
Evidence
12. DOGMA = AM GOD
Evidence
13. PROPHET = PROFIT
Evidence
14. ANARCHY = An Arch Y?
..how we going thus far?
'Reality' could be yours, ours, mine, or on its own. So, 'real it y', besides being just nonsensical on its own, is also absolutely absurd like you have presented it without ANY context at all.
'Rape' would be pronounced 'are ape' I would say far more than by those who would pronounce 'rape' as 'our ape', Anyway, does 'our ape' have ANY thing at all to do with human beings 'raping' things? If yes, then HOW, exactly?
'Clock' could be 'see lock' like 'Cheat' is 'see heat'. Does 'cheat' as 'see heat' have ANY thing to do with ANY thing here? If yes, then HOW, exactly?
'Dogma' spelled backwards says 'am God', then does this mean that all of the BELIEVERS with their dogma are their OWN God, or Gods? If no, then WHAT, exactly, are you implying here, if ANY thing?
'Prophet' equaling 'profit' in relation to the selfish and greedy making 'monetary profits', or in other words 'stealing' money from others? Or, does 'profit' refer to 'pro fit', which in turn means what is Right, and/or FIT, for, and in, Life, Itself? Or, something else, here?
'Anarchy' equaling 'An Arch Y? is
typically to support the weight of a bridge, roof, or wall above it.[/i Why, (or 'Y' if lazy), did you ASK?