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promethean75 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:07 am This delay effect is so much fun because it makes you sound better than you are, see. But if you can pick in double time you can cut the delay note off... or in half time and get right on the edge of the delay note. Cool sounds,. I'm about to get an electric, mates. I got Al Ravioli staccato licks that only sound good on an electric. You can't get that thick muted sound on acoustic.

I got lost for a second there trying to deviate toward the middle, my bad.

https://voca.ro/15iUczvfpPsZ
Your linked video says, "Video Unavailable". What is that about?

I can do a lot on a 12-string acoustic that is normally played differently on other instruments or effects.
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promethean75 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:23 am The first hotlink is to a youtube clip of a song, and the bottom link should bring you to vocaroo, a free audio uploader. If neither work, it's at my soundcloud as 'delay effect 2'.

https://on.soundcloud.com/mzM7X

I've never owned a twelve-string because I'm terrified of having to tune it. They sound lovely though.
Thanks. I used the soundcloud version. The material from different countries are often blocked.

Here is something you can try: Lesson 65 (Julio Sagreras)

The person playing it isn't playing the way I do but it is slow enough that you might be able to pick up on this. Try playing this faster but with each triplet dynamically 'weaker'. If you do get your dynamic feel right, you can make it sound like the 'echo' in Mark Snow's Materia Primoris [X-file theme]. Then try your own tune (without the effect) in a similar fashion to see if you can match it with the effect.

EDIT: I also found a Spanish link that shows segments of measures of the same tune that the author is probably teaching to new players. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN8iofHgHx0] VERY SLOW but you get to see the written music samples. [Use this if you want to see the music and fingering. I don't know if you read music but should be able to still make use of it by looking at how the rhythm works (three triplets and a doublet at the end.]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpKAghxy07c

Billy and the Boingers (aka Deathtounge)

the tuba solos are sublime

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A lie. There are no tubas in the song. I scanned the song and heard naught brass. Why are there no horns in this song? It would rock that much harder perhaps.
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@Promethean75,

You can't force creativity. But music theory DOES help.

More important for guitar is that one needs good quality ones where the action is comfortable and the intonation keeps the guitar in tune throughout the fretboard.

The cost is the biggest issue as well as that age factor and the free time needed, ...especially when one is young. But don't let these factors alone make you give up as you grow older. Play specifically for yourself because inspiration for creativity is not something you can force. Learning the traditional 'classical' music through things like the Royal Conservatory (here's Canada's version, which you CAN technically use if you can get to the site: https://www.rcmusic.com/

Look for book sales locally because many who have taken lessons will have many of these. Note that symphonies often have book sales themselves that include these. The libraries often have them too, not to mention that you can probably take them out directly from there too. I don't recommend taking lessons prior to your own investment to learn the basics or you are better on your own without it. On that site (as an example), if you get it, you'd want to first purchase SYLLABUS for Theory and Guitar. These tell you what you NEED to learn for each level/grade. They provide the music for grading and practice but are light on teaching. That is why you need the theory separately and given you already have familiarity with guitar, the theory would supplement your 'lessons' that correspond to the particular grading of each level.

Every musician is required to 'play by ear' and so it is not necessarily the virtue to address as you would still have this to work with regardless. I could go on but this is beyond what others would care to read. I hope this helps.
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promethean75 wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:23 pm
Therein lies the rub. I don't have the patience to sit down and translate tablature to learn a complicated song. I could, however, learn the song with someone in front of me playing it. But it'd have to be live so i can stop and start the dude as i need. Can't do this with a video instructional.
You'd need to learn the actual foundation for the written music. Tablature is useful to determine exact positioning of the artist's recording but acts as a crutch if it prevents you from learning how the musicians of the past learned to develop their skills. There is a 'hump' that you have to pass at first but once past it, you can begin to play what you see written as you might read a book. The creativity comes as you learn the VARIETY of music. 'Classical' is not actually one style and includes all music. It is just the ELEMENTS of learning music in the way one learns the alphabet and the grammar through common roots,....like "Run Spot Run" gets popular use for learning to read by most North American students. Shakespeare is an example we use in high school. But the 'classics' are also UNIVERSAL (compared to other languages you might learn,....including computer programming languages....if this helps as a comparison).

How many people do you hear brag that they can't read English (or X-language) but learn to speak it 'by ear'.? Or can you imagine a programmer who didn't believe in learning the programming language they use but opted to guess how to program by trial and error? While these are good skills, the one with the theoretical understanding SAVES MORE time by learning what the prior programmers have already learned 'by ear' collectively AND to those who also organized HOW to learn most optimally.
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