The education of children in modern times

[godelian]

Boys need to get job skills so that they can make money. The school does not teach them these skills. Around 80% of the graduates with a STEM degree does not work in his field. If you do not work in the field that you have trained for, you are effectively an unskilled worker. Almost all non-STEM graduates start their careers as unskilled labor. Many will even remain in that situation until the end of their careers.

Hence, you cannot count on the schools to transmit the most important education that a boy needs. You are effectively counting on his first employer to do that. If that goes wrong, then tough luck.

Girls can also benefit from job skills but the most important milestone for a young woman to achieve is to find a husband. The longer they study, the less likely that they will succeed in getting married, let alone, getting married to a high-value man. Unlike men, women must find their spouse before it is too late.

Hence, the schools make girls lose precious time on their primary project. If you do not have a network that can help with finding decent suitors, you are effectively counting on random luck. The last thing you want to wish for your daughter is for her to hunt for a husband on Tinder.

The multi-trillion dollar worldwide budget for formal schooling makes young people waste their time. The worst part is not even the taxpayer money wasted. The worst part is that it diverts their attention from what should be their real goal, to the extent that many will never manage to achieve it. It increasingly leads to boys who can't make money and girls who can't find a husband.

[Alexiev]

Boys need to get job skills so that they can make money. The school does not teach them these skills. Around 80% of the graduates with a STEM degree does not work in his field. If you do not work in the field that you have trained for, you are effectively an unskilled worker. Almost all non-STEM graduates start their careers as unskilled labor. Many will even remain in that situation until the end of their careers.

Hence, you cannot count on the schools to transmit the most important education that a boy needs. You are effectively counting on his first employer to do that. If that goes wrong, then tough luck.

Girls can also benefit from job skills but the most important milestone for a young woman to achieve is to find a husband. The longer they study, the less likely that they will succeed in getting married, let alone, getting married to a high-value man. Unlike men, women must find their spouse before it is too late.

Hence, the schools make girls lose precious time on their primary project. If you do not have a network that can help with finding decent suitors, you are effectively counting on random luck. The last thing you want to wish for your daughter is for her to hunt for a husband on Tinder.

The multi-trillion dollar worldwide budget for formal schooling makes young people waste their time. The worst part is not even the taxpayer money wasted. The worst part is that it diverts their attention from what should be their real goal, to the extent that many will never manage to achieve it. It increasingly leads to boys who can't make money and girls who can't find a husband.

Maybe, just maybe, some people think some things other than sex and money are worth while. Not godelian, though. Maybe learning to appreciate art or literature or the human condition is almost as important as raking in the cash. After all, musicians and poets seem to do OK with women -- almost as well as rich people. And some might prefer the type of women these artists attract.

Also, what's wrong with getting money the old fashioned way? Inheriting it.

[Impenitent]

stem classes do not make carpenters, electricians or plumbers

single and looking for mr. right? try looking at a church event...

-Imp

[LuckyR]

Several things:

First, college isn't job training.

Most folks should be in job training, not college.

Most jobs require a deep but narrow set of skills. This lends itself to job training (in that narrow set of skills). A few professions require a very broad group of either knowledge or the ability to manipulate a wide variety of knowledge. That's what graduate education provides.

[Kaylla]

The 1950s called, they want you back.

[Kaylla]

I disagree with your statement that people who work outside of the field that they studied are essentially unskilled.

I have a friend who got a degree in history and theology - and then got a job as a receptionist at a car dealership. She has quickly become the go-to person for deciphering complex written communication, making effective google searches, and de-escalating situations with difficult customers - which are all the things she tells me she learned in university.

[LuckyR]

I have a friend who got a degree in history and theology - and then got a job as a receptionist at a car dealership. She has quickly become the go-to person for deciphering complex written communication, making effective google searches, and de-escalating situations with difficult customers - which are all the things she tells me she learned in university.

I don't doubt your observation, but is the college grad receptionist a demonstration of the appropriate use of a college education? Is she happy with her circumstances?

[Kaylla]

I have a friend who got a degree in history and theology - and then got a job as a receptionist at a car dealership. She has quickly become the go-to person for deciphering complex written communication, making effective google searches, and de-escalating situations with difficult customers - which are all the things she tells me she learned in university.

I don't doubt your observation, but is the college grad receptionist a demonstration of the appropriate use of a college education? Is she happy with her circumstances?

My point was that university grads are usually way ahead of unskilled labor even when they have a "useless" degree and are working in a field that has little or nothing to do with that degree.

If you are asking "Should we be teaching history and theology in universities when vast majority of graduates in those fields do not work in those fields" - I don't know the answer to that. Should we only be teaching skills for which there is an established market?

[godelian]

I have a friend who got a degree in history and theology - and then got a job as a receptionist at a car dealership. She has quickly become the go-to person for deciphering complex written communication, making effective google searches, and de-escalating situations with difficult customers - which are all the things she tells me she learned in university.

I don't doubt your observation, but is the college grad receptionist a demonstration of the appropriate use of a college education? Is she happy with her circumstances?

My point was that university grads are usually way ahead of unskilled labor even when they have a "useless" degree and are working in a field that has little or nothing to do with that degree.

If you are asking "Should we be teaching history and theology in universities when vast majority of graduates in those fields do not work in those fields" - I don't know the answer to that. Should we only be teaching skills for which there is an established market?

Then we still have the problem of the mountain of student debt, which she will have to pay back from her wages as a receptionist at a car dealership. She may not make much money as a receptionist. The obligation to pay back hefty loans only makes the problem worse. This is not the end of her problems, though. Men are reluctant to co-mingle finances in any shape or fashion with a woman who comes with preexisting debt. The pool of men to choose from isn't particularly large to begin with, because women with a degree typically want a man who also has a degree, while female graduates outnumber male ones two to one. Furthermore, by the time she has come clean and is done paying back her loans, if ever, the window of opportunity may already have passed for her to get together with a high-value man, who are known to generally prefer younger women. So, all of that adds up to: low wages, hefty loan repayments, and a seriously damaged private life.

[Age]

Boys need to get job skills so that they can make money.

you human beings may well need to get jobs so that you can get money, but you do not need to get money in the first place.

The school does not teach them these skills.

But school is not here to teach you human beings skills for jobs. School are here to indoctrinated you into believing Falsehoods like that you need money to live. By going to school most days of the week you have been and are being taught to believe that you need to spend most of your life working, for a life, or, for a living, and to become so greedy that you continually have an insatiable desire and 'thirst' for more and more money, and/or things, so that all of you will eventually make just a very few number of people exorbitantly monetarily wealthy.

The multi-trillion dollar worldwide budget for formal schooling makes young people waste their time.

Money well spent from those who want a population with an insatiable thirst for more/newer things as well as a population of what could be referred to as, "brain dead voting followers".

So, the more of the population who waste their time in this kind of schooling, then the happier and more satisfied the very few 'rich' are

Obviously the very few 'unbelievably' monetary rich people could not get what they 'want' if you others had not been 'fooled' and 'tricked', through the 'schooling system', into believing that you NEED to work, for money, for most of your life, in order to just live.

[Kaylla]

Furthermore, by the time she has come clean and is done paying back her loans, if ever, the window of opportunity may already have passed for her to get together with a high-value man, who are known to generally prefer younger women. So, all of that adds up to: low wages, hefty loan repayments, and a seriously damaged private life.

High value man!?

Are you for real?

[FlashDangerpants]

Furthermore, by the time she has come clean and is done paying back her loans, if ever, the window of opportunity may already have passed for her to get together with a high-value man, who are known to generally prefer younger women. So, all of that adds up to: low wages, hefty loan repayments, and a seriously damaged private life.

High value man!?

Are you for real?

He is a "passport bro" sex tourist who travels the far east renting child brides from their dirt poor families under temporary marriage contracts using some loophole in Islam that appears to be the actual reason he converted. Yeah he means those words, and when he talks about you getting too old to attract a high value man, you might well find the age of expiry just as off-putting as the HVM bit.

[godelian]

He is a "passport bro" sex tourist who travels the far east renting child brides from their dirt poor families under temporary marriage contracts using some loophole in Islam that appears to be the actual reason he converted. Yeah he means those words, and when he talks about you getting too old to attract a high value man, you might well find the age of expiry just as off-putting as the HVM bit.

I got my stash of Bitcoin at prices between $250 and $800. They are currently worth $90,000+ per coin.

If I walked around in Austin, Texas, I would probably still be the wealthiest guy in the entire street. Seriously, I don't need to go to Semarang in Indonesia for that. Furthermore, Donald Trump and Elon Musk consistently keep pumping my assets. I didn't ask them to do that, but they keep doing it.

So, what is the effect of all of that on women?

Women only find 5% - 10% of all the men attractive based on just their appearance. In my opinion, finding men generally physically unattractive is even a biological necessity. Furthermore, a man's physical attractiveness is only of short-term value.

Concerning any other man, a woman will not be attracted to his appearance but only to what he can do for her. This entire setup is meant keep the money flowing from men to women, in line with biological imperatives.

So, that is how every woman of mine gets addicted to attending family events wearing upmarket brand clothing and expensive shoes and bags, her body covered in an excessive amount of 24-carat pure gold jewelry, because for women that is a flex, as the other women know that it pays off big time to be the bitch of a stinking rich guy.

They are addicted to flexing. They enjoy the prestige. Other women look up to them. I am usually not there but they all know that there is someone like me behind all of that.

Somewhere deep in her lizard brain, every woman knows that making her own money pales in comparison to getting it from a man who happens to be stinking rich.

Listen to your own hind brain. It will tell you that finding a man to spend money on you, even just modestly, is not optional. If you cannot find that man, then you are a biological loser.

[LuckyR]

I have a friend who got a degree in history and theology - and then got a job as a receptionist at a car dealership. She has quickly become the go-to person for deciphering complex written communication, making effective google searches, and de-escalating situations with difficult customers - which are all the things she tells me she learned in university.

I don't doubt your observation, but is the college grad receptionist a demonstration of the appropriate use of a college education? Is she happy with her circumstances?

My point was that university grads are usually way ahead of unskilled labor even when they have a "useless" degree and are working in a field that has little or nothing to do with that degree.

If you are asking "Should we be teaching history and theology in universities when vast majority of graduates in those fields do not work in those fields" - I don't know the answer to that. Should we only be teaching skills for which there is an established market?

Definitely. If you run a business that uses esoteric skills not taught in any school or program and you have the option of hiring someone who showed up enough to graduate or someone who doesn't have that on their resume, who do you hire?

As I noted earlier, college isn't job training but most in business say, give me a hire with grit, we'll teach them what they need to know for work.

[godelian]

High value man!?
Are you for real?

A high-value man is a man that lots of other women also want. This is typically the case because of his handsome appearance (short term) or his wealth (long term).