Automation: The End to Economy

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Automation: The End to Economy

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What are the philosophical implications of a government owning all machines and money in a highly automated society? Are there any philosophical or theological perspectives that support the idea of government ownership of machinery and currency in the context of automation?
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How can the government "own all money"?

People need to have money in order to use money.
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They would pay back other nations and call it quits
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Ollie.ha wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:08 pm What are the philosophical implications of a government owning all machines and money in a highly automated society? Are there any philosophical or theological perspectives that support the idea of government ownership of machinery and currency in the context of automation?
Alright, here’s the essence of what we’re dealing with here: we’re stepping into a world where artificial intelligence and robotics are completely redefining the boundaries of human effort and the structure of society. The whole concept of labor—what it means to work, to earn, to contribute—is being turned on its head. We’re looking at AI not just as a helper but as the main driver of production, enabling automation across every sector, from manufacturing to the most intricate intellectual work. And with the foundation of endless clean energy, we’ve got the fuel to sustain this transformation indefinitely.

Now, as labor becomes obsolete, so does money. Imagine a world where resources aren’t exchanged but simply available, enabling us to reimagine values like achievement, connection, and fulfillment. The shift to a post-labor, post-money society brings profound changes in our social structures, with AI ensuring equitable access to goods and services. Without the economic scramble, we’re free to redefine purpose and community.

But it’s not just about eliminating the grind. This scenario challenges us to address the new social dynamics, governance, ethics, and even love and family life as they evolve in a society where the old norms no longer apply. The vision here is ambitious and provocative—aiming for a world where automation doesn’t just ease human effort but also fosters peace, equality, and an environment where human potential can be redefined on a whole new scale.
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Ollie.ha wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:08 pm What are the philosophical implications of a government owning all machines and money in a highly automated society? Are there any philosophical or theological perspectives that support the idea of government ownership of machinery and currency in the context of automation?
The government will produce stuff that nobody wants. That problem won't be any different from how it turned out in the Soviet Union. Soon the government won't be able to satisfy the payments in unwanted goods or worthless money to the workers who are supposed to maintain their machines or replace them with new ones. So, it will end in the collapse of the Soviet Union all over again.
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