Reflections of the way things used to be

[Gary Childress]

Why do human beings do so much building and then tear everything down? Is the former morality and the opposite decadence? Have we all become enamored by decadence, elevating it above morality? Or does the overall process of build and tear down serve a higher purpose? Is there progress or simply cycles? Truth or paradigm? Is Romanticism nostalgia. Is Classicism amor fati?

Could asceticism be "life affirming"? Could resentiment be good will?

And if it weren't for iconoclasts would there be any room for improvement?

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=rwPBQlt5AXI

[Age]

Why do human beings do so much building and then tear everything down?

Like what for example?

The pyramids, for example, are, still, standing, right?

Is the former morality and the opposite decadence?

'Building' a 'better' or 'moral world' could be aligned with 'morality', itself. However, 'building' buildings does not have much, if any thing, to do with 'morality', itself.

Have we all become enamored by decadence, elevating it above morality?

All if you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, may have, but all of 'you' are not 'we all'.

Or does the overall process of build and tear down serve a higher purpose?

I would suggest if given some examples 'we' could better answer 'your clarifying' question here, for you

Is there progress or simply cycles?

Are you human beings , still, living in caves, or, are you human beings, now, living in air-conditioned and heated homes?

Is this, what is called or referred to as, 'progress'?

Truth or paradigm? Is Romanticism nostalgia. Is Classicism amor fati?

Could asceticism be "life affirming"? Could resentiment be good will?

And if it weren't for iconoclasts would there be any room for improvement?

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=rwPBQlt5AXI

I am not sure what you are asking here. So, I am not sure how to answer these clarifying questions, here, for you

[Gary Childress]

Why do human beings do so much building and then tear everything down?

Like what for example?

At first, I was going to say like Europe which suffered enormous destruction during WW2. But I suppose it was the US (my country) that did most of the destroying through "strategic bombing". Europe was a beautiful continent prior to WW2, though there were many cultural clashes. I guess it was the US that leveled most of their buildings and architecture. They built and we tore everything down.

We (my country) really have done a lot of evil in the world. I wish we would change.

I think Biden knew it and some things Biden has done seem to reflect acknowledgement that we need to change our ways, such as pulling out of Afghanistan. I hope Trump will bring us peace.

[Impenitent]

Why do human beings do so much building and then tear everything down?

Like what for example?

At first, I was going to say like Europe which suffered enormous destruction during WW2. But I suppose it was the US (my country) that did most of the destroying through "strategic bombing". Europe was a beautiful continent prior to WW2, though there were many cultural clashes. I guess it was the US that leveled most of their buildings and architecture. They built and we tore everything down.

We (my country) really have done a lot of evil in the world. I wish we would change.

I think Biden knew it and some things Biden has done seem to reflect acknowledgement that we need to change our ways, such as pulling out of Afghanistan. I hope Trump will bring us peace.

the blitz had nothing to do with anything

-Imp

[Gary Childress]

Like what for example?

At first, I was going to say like Europe which suffered enormous destruction during WW2. But I suppose it was the US (my country) that did most of the destroying through "strategic bombing". Europe was a beautiful continent prior to WW2, though there were many cultural clashes. I guess it was the US that leveled most of their buildings and architecture. They built and we tore everything down.

We (my country) really have done a lot of evil in the world. I wish we would change.

I think Biden knew it and some things Biden has done seem to reflect acknowledgement that we need to change our ways, such as pulling out of Afghanistan. I hope Trump will bring us peace.

the blitz had nothing to do with anything

-Imp

Two wrongs do not make a right.

[Impenitent]

At first, I was going to say like Europe which suffered enormous destruction during WW2. But I suppose it was the US (my country) that did most of the destroying through "strategic bombing". Europe was a beautiful continent prior to WW2, though there were many cultural clashes. I guess it was the US that leveled most of their buildings and architecture. They built and we tore everything down.

We (my country) really have done a lot of evil in the world. I wish we would change.

I think Biden knew it and some things Biden has done seem to reflect acknowledgement that we need to change our ways, such as pulling out of Afghanistan. I hope Trump will bring us peace.

the blitz had nothing to do with anything

-Imp

Two wrongs do not make a right.

so your position is that liberating Europe from the Nazis was wrong...

-Imp

[Age]

Why do human beings do so much building and then tear everything down?

Like what for example?

At first, I was going to say like Europe which suffered enormous destruction during WW2. But I suppose it was the US (my country) that did most of the destroying through "strategic bombing". Europe was a beautiful continent prior to WW2, though there were many cultural clashes. I guess it was the US that leveled most of their buildings and architecture. They built and we tore everything down.

We (my country) really have done a lot of evil in the world. I wish we would change.

Everyone else wishes you would all change, for the better, also.

But, with a so-called "new leader" just elected in, by you adult human being, in 'that cuntry', all of you adults might all finally get 'the change' that you all deserve .

We will just have to wait to see.

I think Biden knew it and some things Biden has done seem to reflect acknowledgement that we need to change our ways, such as pulling out of Afghanistan. I hope Trump will bring us peace.

Once again 'we' have another example here of one seeking out, or expecting 'another', or some others', to make and create 'the change', for them, which ALL want and desire.

All of you adult human beings NEED TO CHANGE. Expecting others to do 'your needed change', for you, is WHY 'the world' is in 'the mess' that it is 'currently' in, when this is being written.

[Age]

the blitz had nothing to do with anything

-Imp

Two wrongs do not make a right.

so your position is that liberating Europe from the Nazis was wrong...

-Imp

One could then say, to you, 'so your position is the killing of children and babies, who are obviously the Truly innocent human beings of earth, is not Wrong, and thus is Right', correct?

[accelafine]

the blitz had nothing to do with anything

-Imp

Two wrongs do not make a right.

so your position is that liberating Europe from the Nazis was wrong...

-Imp

The wanton and pointless desctruction was definitely wrong and had nothing to do with 'liberating Europe from the Nazis'. They could have destroyed the railway that was transporting people to the concentration camps at any time but chose not to. I doubt if HItler had a bullet-proof vest. I'm sure he could have been 'taken out' quite easily at some point. Wars are never about what anyone thinks they are about. Only idiots think WW11 was ever about 'saving' people.

[Impenitent]

destruction is never pointless

-Imp

[accelafine]

Ok then. The 'point' was to be a ****.

[godelian]

The wanton and pointless desctruction was definitely wrong and had nothing to do with 'liberating Europe from the Nazis'. They could have destroyed the railway that was transporting people to the concentration camps at any time but chose not to. I doubt if HItler had a bullet-proof vest. I'm sure he could have been 'taken out' quite easily at some point.

Allied intelligence services were aware of the extermination camps some time before the end of the war:

https://italianacademy.columbia.edu/eve ... llies-knew

While it has been generally accepted that the world learned about the mass murder of the Jews only in the wake of the final victory of the Allies in 1945, research has determined that information about these mass killings began to circulate as early as 1941, and that – by 1942 – leaders of the democratic world, as well as the Vatican, had extensive knowledge of the extermination project.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 88036.html

Allied forces knew about Holocaust two years before discovery of concentration camps, secret documents reveal
Archive shows Adolf Hitler was indicted for war crimes in 1944

Newly accessed material from the United Nations – not seen for around 70 years – shows that as early as December 1942, the US, UK and Soviet governments were aware that at least two million Jews had been murdered and a further five million were at risk of being killed, and were preparing charges.

However, the only realistic way to stop the Nazis was to defeat them in battle. Hence, Nazi misconduct had no bearing on the Allied strategy. Furthermore, it took until the Soviet victory in Stalingrad, in February 1943, to turn the tide of the war. Until then, the Nazis were deemed pretty much invincible. Until then, it wasn't even sure that the Soviets would manage to hold out against the Nazi war machine. The most sensible strategy was to keep sending weapons and supplies to the Soviets and hope that they would eventually be able to do the job. The American military efforts in the European theater were actually of little use, and did not make any difference.

It is the Soviets who decisively defeated the Nazis in June 1944 during "operation Bagration":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bagration

On 22 June 1944, the Red Army attacked Army Group Centre in Byelorussia, with the objective of encircling and destroying its main component armies.

The Red Army exploited the collapse of the German front line to encircle German formations in the vicinity of Minsk in the Minsk Offensive and destroy them, with Minsk liberated on 4 July.

The Soviet Union destroyed 28 of 34 divisions of Army Group Centre and completely shattered the German front line.[17] The overall engagement is the largest defeat in German military history, with around 450,000 German casualties,[18] while 300,000 other German soldiers were cut off in the Courland Pocket.

Concerning the reports of Nazi misconduct in occupied Europe, this problem could simply not be prioritized by the Allies. The allied top priority was the destruction of Army Group Centre. Everything else was subordinate to that goal.