What Facts are not Contingent to a FS?

Should you think about your duty, or about the consequences of your actions? Or should you concentrate on becoming a good person?

Moderators: AMod, iMod

Post Reply
Veritas Aequitas
Posts: 15722
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:41 am

What Facts are not Contingent to a FS?

Post by Veritas Aequitas »

FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:19 am He [VA] proceeds from arguing that facts about the world are dependent on framework and system [FS] to an illegitimate claim that nothing is required for a fact but a FS.
My principle is:
Whatever is a fact, real, exists, knowledge, objective is contingent upon a human-based [collective-of-subjects] framework and system [FS]. The scientific FS is the gold standard of credibility and objectivity.

Can anyone show me which fact, truth, real, exists, knowledge, objective] is not contingent upon a human-based [collective-of-subjects] framework and system [FS] explicitly or implicitly?

The FS is the basic structure which is extended to a FSER [Emergence and Realization of Reality] and FSK [Knowledge and Description].
Last edited by Veritas Aequitas on Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
Veritas Aequitas
Posts: 15722
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:41 am

Re: What Facts are not Contingent to a FS?

Post by Veritas Aequitas »

Notes:

Here's a lead from WIKI:
A fact is a true datum about one or more aspects of a circumstance.[1]
Standard reference works are often used to check facts.

Scientific facts are verified by repeatable careful observation or measurement by experiments or other means.

For example,
"This sentence contains words." accurately describes a linguistic fact, and
"The sun is a star" accurately describes an astronomical fact. Further,
"Abraham Lincoln was the 16th President of the United States" and "Abraham Lincoln was assassinated" both accurately describe historical facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact
All the above facts are implicitly conditioned upon its specific human-based [collective of subjects] framework and system [FS].

The article also added:
Generally speaking, facts are independent of belief and of knowledge and opinion.
That is only 'generally speaking' but specifically, the above point is very contentious where philosophical realism claims "facts are [absolutely] independent of belief and of knowledge and opinion" whereas philosophical antirealism [Kantian] oppose philosophical realism.
Last edited by Veritas Aequitas on Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
Veritas Aequitas
Posts: 15722
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:41 am

Re: What Facts are not Contingent to a FS?

Post by Veritas Aequitas »

Notes:
User avatar
FlashDangerpants
Posts: 8815
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:54 pm

Re: What Facts are not Contingent to a FS?

Post by FlashDangerpants »

He doesn't even know enough about logic to understand which end of his process I'm criticising.
Post Reply