Government control over the payment systems is gradually becoming impossible

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godelian
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Government control over the payment systems is gradually becoming impossible

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Lots of people and even entire countries are excluded from participating in the international payment network.

Even when people are allowed to participate, they have to contend with account closings, financial censorship, balance seizures, and even wholesale debasement of the currency.

It is simple to explain the success of cryptocurrencies as it removes government involvement from the equation.

When the US and the EU seized the Russian dollar and euro foreign reserve holdings in 2022, it triggered the end game not just for these currencies, but for all fiat currencies.
https://watcher.guru/news/medvedev-and- ... ation-loom

== Russian government ==

Medvedev:

“Digital money is the future, because it is impossible to control them from a single center of issuance.”

Lavrov:

“Everybody wants to create alternative payment mechanisms, interbank settlements with the use of national currencies.”
Settlement in national currencies is a temporary stopgap alternative to using the dollar or the euro as it does not solve the problem fundamentally. It merely removes two of the ruling mafias from the equation while still leaving the other ones in place.
Medvedev warns of serious trouble ahead for the US dollar collapse. “This bubble will burst sooner or later.
It is not just the dollar but the entire fiat banking system that will come crashing down. Separation of money and state will become an incontrovertible fact. We simply do not trust the ruling mafia with our money.
Gary Childress
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Re: Government control over the payment systems is gradually becoming impossible

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godelian wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:41 am Lots of people and even entire countries are excluded from participating in the international payment network.

Even when people are allowed to participate, they have to contend with account closings, financial censorship, balance seizures, and even wholesale debasement of the currency.

It is simple to explain the success of cryptocurrencies as it removes government involvement from the equation.

When the US and the EU seized the Russian dollar and euro foreign reserve holdings in 2022, it triggered the end game not just for these currencies, but for all fiat currencies.
https://watcher.guru/news/medvedev-and- ... ation-loom

== Russian government ==

Medvedev:

“Digital money is the future, because it is impossible to control them from a single center of issuance.”

Lavrov:

“Everybody wants to create alternative payment mechanisms, interbank settlements with the use of national currencies.”
Settlement in national currencies is a temporary stopgap alternative to using the dollar or the euro as it does not solve the problem fundamentally. It merely removes two of the ruling mafias from the equation while still leaving the other ones in place.
Medvedev warns of serious trouble ahead for the US dollar collapse. “This bubble will burst sooner or later.
It is not just the dollar but the entire fiat banking system that will come crashing down. Separation of money and state will become an incontrovertible fact. We simply do not trust the ruling mafia with our money.
I just hope the "resistance" doesn't become the next Mafia, other than that, you seem to have some valid points.
godelian
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Re: Government control over the payment systems is gradually becoming impossible

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Gary Childress wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:20 am I just hope the "resistance" doesn't become the next Mafia, other than that, you seem to have some valid points.
Elephants follow a matriarch, wolves follow an alpha pair, bees follow a queen, and humans follow an official mafia boss.

Hence, replacing one official mafia boss by another one does not solve the fundamental problem.

As a matter of biology, we will always have an official mafia whether we like it or not. Therefore, the solution is not to remove the official mafia but to reduce its power.

The official mafia should not control the payment systems. The official mafia should not have any say over marriage or divorce. This, just to name two problems at the top of the problem list.

Most of all, the official mafia should not invent new laws because God has invented all the laws already. And if he does not even exist, so much the better.
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