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godelian wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:18 am
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:50 pm To summarize, the original 1988 charter contained anti-Semitic language, but Hamas has since issued statements that attempt to distinguish between Jews and the conflict with Israel, even though it remains hostile to the Jewish state.
The original take of Hamas on the matter overstepped the boundaries of what Islam allows.

In those days, not all Hamas leaders were sufficiently trained in Islamic law to understand this. It took the ulema (the clergy) quite a bit of work to get this corrected. Nowadays, the problem has been exhaustively solved. Hamas is now fully accountable to Islamic law.
You said:
Did Hamas deliberately target Israeli civilians in the October 7, 2023 attacks?
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Yes, Hamas deliberately targeted Israeli civilians during the October 7, 2023 attacks. In a large-scale assault, Hamas fighters breached Israeli borders, entering towns and villages, and attacked civilian homes, massacred families, and took civilians hostage. The attacks resulted in the deaths of over 1,400 Israeli civilians, as well as kidnappings of many others. Hamas has been widely condemned for these actions as they clearly violate international humanitarian law, which prohibits targeting civilians in armed conflict.
You said:
Has Hamas been using their own civilians as human shields since the October 7, 2023 attack?
ChatGPT said:
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Yes, Hamas has been accused of using civilians as human shields in Gaza since the October 7, 2023 attack. This tactic involves placing military assets, such as weapons, fighters, and command centers, in or near civilian areas—such as schools, hospitals, and residential buildings—making it more difficult for Israeli forces to target them without causing civilian casualties. This practice violates international humanitarian law, which prohibits the use of civilians to shield military operations from attack. Israel and multiple human rights organizations have condemned Hamas for these actions.
You said:
Did Hamas deliberately place its military assets such as weapons, fighters, and command centers in or near civilian areas in Gaza? Has it been verified?
ChatGPT said:
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Yes, it has been verified that Hamas has deliberately placed its military assets, such as weapons, fighters, and command centers, in or near civilian areas in Gaza. This practice has been documented by Israel, as well as by independent organizations and analysts. Hamas is known to operate from within densely populated areas, using locations like schools, hospitals, mosques, and residential buildings for military purposes, a tactic that complicates military responses and increases the risk of civilian casualties. This tactic is in violation of international humanitarian law, which prohibits the use of civilians to shield military activities.

Various reports and investigations, including those from the United Nations and human rights groups, have noted this pattern of behavior by Hamas in previous conflicts as well.
It doesn't sound like Hamas has implemented Islamic Law (if that is what Islamic Law truly entails) as you claim. It seems like it would be pretty difficult to accidentally attack civilians and take them hostage. And placing their military assets near schools and other such places creates a moral dilemma for Israel.

It seems to me that Iran is backing what can only be called terrorists. That seems unethical to me. It seems to me that Iran should mind its own business and not associate itself with such evil.
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:42 am It doesn't sound like Hamas has implemented Islamic Law (if that is what Islamic Law truly entails) as you claim. It seems like it would be pretty difficult to accidentally attack civilians and take them hostage.
Technically, only the people at the festival were civilians. All other settlements nearby the Gaza fence are military fortifications.

Furthermore, many civilians were killed by the Zionist IDF in keeping with the Hannibal directive: better a dead Israeli than a captive one.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... be45520000

IDF Ordered Hannibal Directive on October 7 to Prevent Hamas Taking Soldiers Captive
'There was crazy hysteria, and decisions started being made without verified information': Documents and testimonies obtained by Haaretz reveal the Hannibal operational order, which directs the use of force to prevent soldiers being taken into captivity, was employed at three army facilities infiltrated by Hamas, potentially endangering civilians as well
The IDF does not want to reveal how many captive soldiers and civilians they deliberately killed on Oct 7:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/ ... /104224430

But the Israeli military is coming under increasing pressure to reveal just how many of their own citizens were killed by Israeli soldiers, pilots and police in the confusion of the Hamas attack on southern Israeli communities.
The IDF also attacked every vehicle trying to get back into Gaza, killing numerous hostages in the process.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:42 am It seems to me that the Iran is backing what can only be called terrorists.
You hastily conclude this without further investigation into who exactly killed civilians on that day. The festival goers don't count because they were not even supposed to be in a military zone. The civilians killed by the IDF can only be held against the IDF.

Hence, in absence of any further information, especially on the actual instructions given to the militiamen, I consider the Hamas operation to be a perfectly legitimate military operation.

Hamas are widely considered to be courageous freedom fighters, standing up to injustice. The BRICS countries definitely endorse this view. It is also globally the most accepted view on the matter. It definitely has a global majority.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:42 am That seems unethical to me. It seems to me that Iran should mind its own business and not associate itself with such evil.
The war did not start on 7 Oct. It has been going on for almost a century. Iran does not have to tolerate the establishment of a racist European apartheid state in their neighborhood, which has a long history of mistreating the original inhabitants.

The Palestinians have requested assistance from all countries in the Middle East, and Iran is the first country that has declared that it is willing to do what it takes to solve the problem.

Concerning any American assistance to the genocidal Zionist regime, the Russian Federation has already committed to do what it takes. Therefore, it is the Americans who should stay out of the conflict, if only, because they do not have the wherewithal to make any difference as to the final outcome.
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godelian wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:06 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:42 am It doesn't sound like Hamas has implemented Islamic Law (if that is what Islamic Law truly entails) as you claim. It seems like it would be pretty difficult to accidentally attack civilians and take them hostage.
Technically, only the people at the festival were civilians. All other settlements nearby the Gaza fence are military fortifications.

Furthermore, many civilians were killed by the Zionist IDF in keeping with the Hannibal directive: better a dead Israeli than a captive one.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... be45520000

IDF Ordered Hannibal Directive on October 7 to Prevent Hamas Taking Soldiers Captive
'There was crazy hysteria, and decisions started being made without verified information': Documents and testimonies obtained by Haaretz reveal the Hannibal operational order, which directs the use of force to prevent soldiers being taken into captivity, was employed at three army facilities infiltrated by Hamas, potentially endangering civilians as well
The IDF does not want to reveal how many captive soldiers and civilians they deliberately killed on Oct 7:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/ ... /104224430

But the Israeli military is coming under increasing pressure to reveal just how many of their own citizens were killed by Israeli soldiers, pilots and police in the confusion of the Hamas attack on southern Israeli communities.
The IDF also attacked every vehicle trying to get back into Gaza, killing numerous hostages in the process.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:42 am It seems to me that the Iran is backing what can only be called terrorists.
You hastily conclude this without further investigation into who exactly killed civilians on that day. The festival goers don't count because they were not even supposed to be in a military zone. The civilians killed by the IDF can only be held against the IDF.

Hence, in absence of any further information, especially on the actual instructions given to the militiamen, I consider the Hamas operation to be a perfectly legitimate military operation.

Hamas are widely considered to be courageous freedom fighters, standing up to injustice. The BRICS countries definitely endorse this view. It is also globally the most accepted view on the matter. It definitely has a global majority.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:42 am That seems unethical to me. It seems to me that Iran should mind its own business and not associate itself with such evil.
The war did not start on 7 Oct. It has been going on for almost a century. Iran does not have to tolerate the establishment of a racist European apartheid state in their neighborhood, which has a long history of mistreating the original inhabitants.

The Palestinians have requested assistance from all countries in the Middle East, and Iran is the first country that has declared that it is willing to do what it takes to solve the problem.

Concerning any American assistance to the genocidal Zionist regime, the Russian Federation has already committed to do what it takes. Therefore, it is the Americans who should stay out of the conflict, if only, because they do not have the wherewithal to make any difference as to the final outcome.
You said:
Did Israel intentionally starve and impoverish Palestinians in Gaza prior to the October 7, 2023 attack by Hamas?
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The situation between Israel and Gaza, particularly regarding policies that impact the living conditions in Gaza, is complex and subject to significant debate. Prior to the October 7, 2023, Hamas attack, Gaza faced long-standing issues of poverty, limited access to resources, and a humanitarian crisis.

Israel has maintained a blockade on Gaza since 2007, after Hamas took control of the area. This blockade, along with restrictions on movement and the flow of goods, has severely impacted Gaza's economy, healthcare, and infrastructure, contributing to widespread poverty and hardship for its population. Israel has cited security concerns, specifically the threat of Hamas rocket attacks and military activities, as the reason for these restrictions.

Critics, including human rights organizations, argue that the blockade and related policies have collectively punished Gaza's civilian population, contributing to a situation where the region suffers from high levels of unemployment, limited access to clean water, electricity shortages, and food insecurity. They claim that these measures have had a detrimental impact on civilians and have deepened the humanitarian crisis.

Israel, on the other hand, maintains that its policies are necessary for security, given the ongoing conflict with Hamas, a group designated as a terrorist organization by Israel, the U.S., and others. It argues that allowing unrestricted access to Gaza could enable Hamas to obtain weapons and materials for military purposes.

So, while Israel has not explicitly stated an intention to "starve and impoverish" Palestinians, the blockade and policies have been viewed by many as contributing factors to the severe living conditions in Gaza prior to the conflict.
It sounds to me like Israel was in a very difficult moral dilemma. Hamas has made it clear that they want to dismantle the Israeli state and (considering the persecution Jews have faced in other countries over the centuries) I think Israel has a right to exist, as do the Palestinians. Hopefully, when the conflict is over the UN can step in and some sort of security arrangements could be made to allow the Palestinians a separate state. However, it seems to me that Hamas is not a good authority over the Palestinians, unless they change their approach.

It seems unreasonable to me to hold Israel as the sole contributor to the current crisis nor as the sole problem. There were many factors in effect and there was no clear solution for Israel. However, as is evidenced by the current Crisis, the International community may need to step in (by means of the UN) and make arrangements that are amicable to both Israel and the Palestinians, if that is possible, to maintain peace in the region and guarantee safety for all.
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:03 pm Hamas has made it clear that they want to dismantle the Israeli state and (considering the persecution Jews have faced in other countries over the centuries) I think Israel has a right to exist, as do the Palestinians.
European Jews are first and foremost Europeans, with a minority religion as well as a matrilineal tribal structure. They are not a nationality. It is not because the Germans decided to proceed to a genocide of the European Jews that these Europeans now have the right to proceed to a genocide of the Palestinians.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:03 pm Hopefully, when the conflict is over the UN can step in and some sort of security arrangements could be made to allow the Palestinians a separate state.
A partition was the original plan of the UN. But then again, why would the Palestinians agree to being expelled out of the other half of their land?
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:03 pm However, it seems to me that Hamas is not a good authority over the Palestinians, unless they change their approach.
If they manage to draw Iran -- and possibly Turkey and other countries -- into their liberation war, then Hamas will have succeeded where all other Palestinian organizations have failed in the past. In my opinion, Hamas stands a very good chance to win this time. In terms of geopolitics, Hamas has done an excellent job. They were a bit unlucky with the unexpected festival, but otherwise, they are clearly doing what it takes to win their liberation war.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:03 pm It seems unreasonable to me to hold Israel as the sole contributor to the current crisis nor as the sole problem. There were many factors in effect and there was no clear solution for Israel. However, as is evidenced by the current Crisis, the International community may need to step in (by means of the UN) and make arrangements that are amicable to both Israel and the Palestinians, if that is possible, to maintain peace in the region and guarantee safety for all.
Our most beloved friend Netanyahu does not want that!

Netanyahu has promised that he will do what he really wants to do, which is to attack Iran. We are all waiting for Netanyahu to finally do it. In my opinion, that will be the turning point of the war. It will be Netanyahu's Stalingrad. Next, I want to see the seven nation army, i.e. the resistance, issue their Casablanca Declaration: Nothing short of the unconditional surrender of the Zionists can be accepted as a solution to the conflict.
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godelian wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:48 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:03 pm Hamas has made it clear that they want to dismantle the Israeli state and (considering the persecution Jews have faced in other countries over the centuries) I think Israel has a right to exist, as do the Palestinians.
European Jews are first and foremost Europeans, with a minority religion as well as a matrilineal tribal structure. They are not a nationality. It is not because the Germans decided to proceed to a genocide of the European Jews that these Europeans now have the right to proceed to a genocide of the Palestinians.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:03 pm Hopefully, when the conflict is over the UN can step in and some sort of security arrangements could be made to allow the Palestinians a separate state.
A partition was the original plan of the UN. But then again, why would the Palestinians agree to being expelled out of the other half of their land?
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:03 pm However, it seems to me that Hamas is not a good authority over the Palestinians, unless they change their approach.
If they manage to draw Iran -- and possibly Turkey and other countries -- into their liberation war, then Hamas will have succeeded where all other Palestinian organizations have failed in the past. In my opinion, Hamas stands a very good chance to win this time. In terms of geopolitics, Hamas has done an excellent job. They were a bit unlucky with the unexpected festival, but otherwise, they are clearly doing what it takes to win their liberation war.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:03 pm It seems unreasonable to me to hold Israel as the sole contributor to the current crisis nor as the sole problem. There were many factors in effect and there was no clear solution for Israel. However, as is evidenced by the current Crisis, the International community may need to step in (by means of the UN) and make arrangements that are amicable to both Israel and the Palestinians, if that is possible, to maintain peace in the region and guarantee safety for all.
Netanyahu does not want that!

Netanyahu has promised that he will really do what he wants to do, which is to attack Iran. We are all waiting for Netanyahu to finally do it. In my opinion, that will be the turning point of the war. It will be Netanyahu's Stalingrad. Next, I want to see the seven nation army, i.e. the resistance, issue their Casablanca Declaration: Nothing short of the unconditional surrender of the Zionists can be accepted as a solution to the conflict.
You said:
Do Arab Jews live in Israel?
ChatGPT said:
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Yes, Arab Jews, often referred to as Mizrahi Jews or Sephardi Jews, live in Israel. The term "Arab Jews" refers to Jews who historically lived in Arab countries, such as Iraq, Yemen, Morocco, Egypt, and other parts of the Middle East and North Africa, before many migrated to Israel, particularly after the creation of the state of Israel in 1948. This migration was driven by factors like persecution, rising anti-Jewish sentiment, and expulsion from their home countries following the establishment of Israel.

Today, these communities make up a significant portion of the Jewish population in Israel, and they have had a considerable influence on Israeli culture, food, music, and society. However, the term "Arab Jews" is sometimes seen as controversial, as some Mizrahi Jews prefer not to identify with the "Arab" label due to the political and historical complexities of the region.
I don't think Israel is "European" only. It seems to be mostly structured around a specific religion that is open to anyone who commits themselves to it.

I would rather see a diplomatic solution before the war widens. Israel might still seek one if Netanyahu feels assured that they will not be destroyed. Israel is interested only in its safety which clearly it seems they have justifiable reason to be concerned with given its history. Of course, the Palestinians have a right to self-determination and their own state also, and I hope arrangements can be made that will guarantee that, otherwise, it will be impossible to maintain peace.

I don't see how dismantling Israel is a realistic goal. The Jews would probably be subject to reprisals and widespread chaos would probably ensue if that were to happen. I don't think we can conscionably put anyone through that either. As I say, it seems like a complex situation. Although, your points are salient ones.

The people of Gaza must be given opportunity to flourish in their own state and some sort of assurance must be given to Israel that they will not be attacked by them. However, bringing Israel to the table is, as you point out, a difficult issue at the moment. Given what happened on October 7, I suspect Israel may remain obstinate as long as there are active, realistic threats to their existence.
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pm I would rather see a diplomatic solution before the war widens.
Our beloved friend Netanyahu does not want a diplomatic solution.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pm Israel might still seek one if Netanyahu feels assured that they will not be destroyed.
Netanyahu publicly proclaims that he is winning. He even said that at the general assembly of the united nations. He cannot possibly imagine a scenario in which he loses the war. I think that he does not just say that for public consumption. I think that he really believes it. Why would he negotiate since in his opinion victory is guaranteed anyway?
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pm I don't see how dismantling Israel is a realistic goal.
It depends on our good friend Netanyahu. If the Zionists suffer a Stalingrad-like defeat -- that is just a question of time -- the only possible outcome will be their unconditional surrender.
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godelian wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:56 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pm I would rather see a diplomatic solution before the war widens.
Our beloved friend Netanyahu does not want a diplomatic solution.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pm Israel might still seek one if Netanyahu feels assured that they will not be destroyed.
Netanyahu publicly proclaims that he is winning. He even said that at the general assembly of the united nations. He cannot possibly imagine a scenario in which he loses the war. I think that he does not just say that for public consumption. I think that he really believes it. Why would he negotiate since in his opinion victory is guaranteed anyway?
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 pm I don't see how dismantling Israel is a realistic goal.
It depends on our good friend Netanyahu. If the Zionists suffer a Stalingrad-like defeat -- that is just a question of time -- the only possible outcome will be their unconditional surrender.
Well, I can't say I'm a fan of Netanyahu. I hope he, Hamas, and Hezbollah can come to an agreement to cease hostilities. The people in their respective countries deserve better. :(
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:09 pm Well, I can't say I'm a fan of Netanyahu.
The people who work for Netanyahu cannot tell him or Gallant the truth. They would lose their job if they did. They have to keep telling Netanyahu what he wants to hear. Pretty much everybody who still works for him, is necessarily a liar.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-sai ... are-liars/

Biden said to claim ’18 out of 19 people who work for Netanyahu are liars’
Since the top brass of the IDF are career soldiers, it is not as easy to replace them as the bureaucrats. So, they are moderately more truthful, but not too much either:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ministers ... u-reports/

Government ministers lashed out at IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi at a security cabinet meeting on Sunday, in what military officials described as a “coordinated ambush” planned in advance of the meeting by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to Hebrew media reports.

Ministers reportedly berated Halevi for a “too weak response” to Saturday’s drone attack by the Hezbollah terror group on Netanyahu’s residence in Caesarea, which the Prime Minister’s Office described as an attempted assassination.

Halevi defended the IDF’s response to Hezbollah thus far, reportedly telling the ministers, “We’ve managed to thwart many drones, we’ve strengthened our abilities, and we continue to learn and improve.”
Netanyahu and his ministers staunchly believe that the IDF is invincible. How can an invincible thing need to learn and improve? Halevi must be kidding us!

Halevi must be good at keeping away unfavorable information and other bad news from Netanyahu. Suppressing information is what keeps Halevi in his job. Winning the war is secondary.
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godelian wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:04 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:09 pm Well, I can't say I'm a fan of Netanyahu.
The people who work for Netanyahu cannot tell him or Gallant the truth. They would lose their job if they did. They have to keep telling Netanyahu what he wants to hear. Pretty much everybody who still works for him, is necessarily a liar.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-sai ... are-liars/

Biden said to claim ’18 out of 19 people who work for Netanyahu are liars’
Since the top brass of the IDF are career soldiers, it is not as easy to replace them as the bureaucrats. So, they are moderately more truthful, but not too much either:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ministers ... u-reports/

Government ministers lashed out at IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi at a security cabinet meeting on Sunday, in what military officials described as a “coordinated ambush” planned in advance of the meeting by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to Hebrew media reports.

Ministers reportedly berated Halevi for a “too weak response” to Saturday’s drone attack by the Hezbollah terror group on Netanyahu’s residence in Caesarea, which the Prime Minister’s Office described as an attempted assassination.

Halevi defended the IDF’s response to Hezbollah thus far, reportedly telling the ministers, “We’ve managed to thwart many drones, we’ve strengthened our abilities, and we continue to learn and improve.”
Netanyahu and his ministers staunchly believe that the IDF is invincible. How can an invincible thing need to learn and improve? Halevi must be kidding us!

Halevi must be good at keeping away unfavorable information and other bad news from Netanyahu. Suppressing information is what keeps Halevi in his job. Winning the war is secondary.
Ugh! Not good. The world needs leaders courageous enough to hear the truth and rationally evaluate it and who don't surround themselves with "yes" people. Sounds like a Donald Trump type of leader. Charismatic and dangerous.
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:44 pm
godelian wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:04 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:09 pm Well, I can't say I'm a fan of Netanyahu.
The people who work for Netanyahu cannot tell him or Gallant the truth. They would lose their job if they did. They have to keep telling Netanyahu what he wants to hear. Pretty much everybody who still works for him, is necessarily a liar.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-sai ... are-liars/

Biden said to claim ’18 out of 19 people who work for Netanyahu are liars’
Since the top brass of the IDF are career soldiers, it is not as easy to replace them as the bureaucrats. So, they are moderately more truthful, but not too much either:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ministers ... u-reports/

Government ministers lashed out at IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi at a security cabinet meeting on Sunday, in what military officials described as a “coordinated ambush” planned in advance of the meeting by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to Hebrew media reports.

Ministers reportedly berated Halevi for a “too weak response” to Saturday’s drone attack by the Hezbollah terror group on Netanyahu’s residence in Caesarea, which the Prime Minister’s Office described as an attempted assassination.

Halevi defended the IDF’s response to Hezbollah thus far, reportedly telling the ministers, “We’ve managed to thwart many drones, we’ve strengthened our abilities, and we continue to learn and improve.”
Netanyahu and his ministers staunchly believe that the IDF is invincible. How can an invincible thing need to learn and improve? Halevi must be kidding us!

Halevi must be good at keeping away unfavorable information and other bad news from Netanyahu. Suppressing information is what keeps Halevi in his job. Winning the war is secondary.
Ugh! Not good. The world needs leaders courageous enough to hear the truth and rationally evaluate it and who don't surround themselves with "yes" people. Sounds like a Donald Trump type of leader. Charismatic and dangerous.
You are so weak and lacking in conviction. You go whichever direction the last gust of wind blew. He's a Jew-hating piece of shit. Everything he posts is bs to feed that narrative. I can't find a single fact in his excrement.
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accelafine wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:39 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:44 pm
godelian wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:04 pm
The people who work for Netanyahu cannot tell him or Gallant the truth. They would lose their job if they did. They have to keep telling Netanyahu what he wants to hear. Pretty much everybody who still works for him, is necessarily a liar.



Since the top brass of the IDF are career soldiers, it is not as easy to replace them as the bureaucrats. So, they are moderately more truthful, but not too much either:



Netanyahu and his ministers staunchly believe that the IDF is invincible. How can an invincible thing need to learn and improve? Halevi must be kidding us!

Halevi must be good at keeping away unfavorable information and other bad news from Netanyahu. Suppressing information is what keeps Halevi in his job. Winning the war is secondary.
Ugh! Not good. The world needs leaders courageous enough to hear the truth and rationally evaluate it and who don't surround themselves with "yes" people. Sounds like a Donald Trump type of leader. Charismatic and dangerous.
You are so weak and lacking in conviction. You go whichever direction the last gust of wind blew. He's a Jew-hating piece of shit. Everything he posts is bs to feed that narrative. I can't find a single fact in his excrement.
Why are you defending Netanyahu? Have you read anything about him? I have and some of it hasn't been very pretty.
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:24 pm
accelafine wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:39 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:44 pm

Ugh! Not good. The world needs leaders courageous enough to hear the truth and rationally evaluate it and who don't surround themselves with "yes" people. Sounds like a Donald Trump type of leader. Charismatic and dangerous.
You are so weak and lacking in conviction. You go whichever direction the last gust of wind blew. He's a Jew-hating piece of shit. Everything he posts is bs to feed that narrative. I can't find a single fact in his excrement.
Why are you defending Netanyahu? Have you read anything about him? I have and some of it hasn't been very pretty.
I'm pretty sure I've only mentioned his name once. What does that have to do with godelian being a fucking Nazi-worshipper?
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accelafine wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:26 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:24 pm
accelafine wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:39 pm

You are so weak and lacking in conviction. You go whichever direction the last gust of wind blew. He's a Jew-hating piece of shit. Everything he posts is bs to feed that narrative. I can't find a single fact in his excrement.
Why are you defending Netanyahu? Have you read anything about him? I have and some of it hasn't been very pretty.
I'm pretty sure I've only mentioned his name once. What does that have to do with godelian being a fucking Nazi-worshipper?
Did you read the articles from the Times of Israel that Godelian posted? Also read about Netanyahu in relation to the Rabin assassination. Rabin was working on peace between Israelis and Palestinians and Netanyahu apparently vigorously opposed him and undid some of the advances Rabin had worked on in Palestinian/Israeli relations. Netanyahu is a hardline conservative who has been promoting Israeli settlements in the West Bank, against UN resolutions.
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:47 pm
accelafine wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:26 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:24 pm

Why are you defending Netanyahu? Have you read anything about him? I have and some of it hasn't been very pretty.
I'm pretty sure I've only mentioned his name once. What does that have to do with godelian being a fucking Nazi-worshipper?
Did you read the articles from the Times of Israel that Godelian posted? Also read about Netanyahu in relation to the Rabin assassination. Rabin was working on peace between Israelis and Palestinians and Netanyahu apparently vigorously opposed him and undid some of the advances Rabin had worked on in Palestinian/Israeli relations. Netanyahu is a hardline conservative who has been promoting Israeli settlements in the West Bank, against UN resolutions.
I don't give a shit what nazi-lover godelian has to say about anything. Why would I? Do you think I am incapable of thinking for myself? Why don't you go there yourself and see what's going on then, instead of asking nazi-lovers for advice and information?
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The 'religion of peace and tolerance'..


Yazidi grandmothers who were buried alive by islamists because they were 'too old' to use as sex slaves.


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