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Wootah
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i blame blame wrote:
artisticsolution wrote:
Wootah wrote:
So far fukushima has not been a disaster. I haven't heard of any major radioactive threat from the reactor yet.
Really? Perhaps you don't keep abreast of the news.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/world ... ss&emc=rss
The reason the water had radiation measuring 1 Sv/h is because that water was cooling the reactor core. Such levels are normal there.


The radiation levels measured outside the reactor buildings are still inferior to the levels measured in Southern Germany after the Chernobyl accident.
It's not April 1st yet ibb so I find it hard to know how to react to your post!!
i blame blame
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Wootah wrote: It's not April 1st yet ibb so I find it hard to know how to react to your post!!
If you wanted to, you could do some literary research to verify it what I've written.

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Wootah
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Re: Japan

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i blame blame wrote:
Wootah wrote: It's not April 1st yet ibb so I find it hard to know how to react to your post!!
If you wanted to, you could do some literaly research to verify it what I've written.
Sorry I was being too obtuse. We agree and I was expressing my surprise.
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The events in Japan represent s further small nail in the coffin of an ever increasingly a radioactive world.
With each new day, further discoveries of radioactivity in the surrounding soil and water are coming to light.
Radioactivity has increased in Scotland due to the disaster in Japan - but at very small levels.
After Chernobyl thousands of sheep in Wales were declared unfit for human consumption.
Maybe none of this matters. The amounts are small, compared to the background levels - but the background level is much higher than it was in 1940.
It seems with each new disaster - a new level of background acceptability is being foisted on the public, and with each new generation exposure increases.
Maybe the increases in cancer have nothing to do with this. But maybe we are just fooling ourselves into acceptability and finding other causes more palatable because they are things which we feel we can control.
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chaz wyman wrote:The events in Japan represent s further small nail in the coffin of an ever increasingly a radioactive world.
With each new day, further discoveries of radioactivity in the surrounding soil and water are coming to light.
Radioactivity has increased in Scotland due to the disaster in Japan - but at very small levels.
Was it reasonably demonstrated that contaminated airmasses moved from Japan to Scotland?

chaz wyman wrote:After Chernobyl thousands of sheep in Wales were declared unfit for human consumption.
Maybe none of this matters. The amounts are small, compared to the background levels - but the background level is much higher than it was in 1940.
It seems with each new disaster - a new level of background acceptability is being foisted on the public, and with each new generation exposure increases.
Maybe the increases in cancer have nothing to do with this. But maybe we are just fooling ourselves into acceptability and finding other causes more palatable because they are things which we feel we can control.
Yes it's hard to determine whether a case of cancer in a compromised region was caused by a nuclear accident or not.
The majority of the background level increase was not because of nuclear power plant accidents though but because some dumbfucks decided it was a good idea to blow up nuclear bombs in the atmosphere over the course of the last 66 years.
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i blame blame wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:The events in Japan represent s further small nail in the coffin of an ever increasingly a radioactive world.
With each new day, further discoveries of radioactivity in the surrounding soil and water are coming to light.
Radioactivity has increased in Scotland due to the disaster in Japan - but at very small levels.
Was it reasonably demonstrated that contaminated airmasses moved from Japan to Scotland?
They've detected extremely low (their words) levels of radioactive iodine which they have attributed to the Japanese disaster. I assume this is because there are no better explanations available. It's not just Scotland though as traces have also been reported in England and elsewhere in Europe.

Here's the press release from the Scottish Environmental Protection Agency (SEPA):
The Scottish Environment Protection Agency (SEPA) has been informed that an air sampler in the UK has reported the presence of radioactive iodine. The value reported is extremely low and is consistent with reports from other European countries such as Iceland and Switzerland.

The high volume air sampler is located in Glasgow and samples extremely large volumes of air each month, to determine the concentration of radioactive substances at very low levels which could be undetectable otherwise.

Dr James Gemmill, SEPA’s Radioactive Substances Manager said:

“The concentration of iodine detected is extremely low and is not of concern for the public or the environment.

“The fact that such a low concentration of this radionuclide was detected demonstrates how effective the surveillance programme for radioactive substances is in the UK.

“SEPA has an ongoing comprehensive monitoring programme for radioactivity in Scotland and has increased the level of scrutiny to provide ongoing public assurance during this period.”
bus2bondi
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Pluto wrote:it's more serious than this though. yet the above pictures are all we do. which is an indication of our childish frustration at being powerless, no?
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Re: Japan

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i blame blame wrote:Yes it's hard to determine whether a case of cancer in a compromised region was caused by a nuclear accident or not.
The majority of the background level increase was not because of nuclear power plant accidents though but because some dumbfucks decided it was a good idea to blow up nuclear bombs in the atmosphere over the course of the last 66 years.
Yes but doesn't some types of radiation (plutonium) have a half life of hundreds of thousands of years? So then is radiation accumulative? How many accidents and "dumbfuckery" can we afford?
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