Are men jealous of women?

[godelian]

Sure, how's this e-mail sound?

Dear Mr Caleb Silve,

FYI a guy who goes by the handle "godelian" on some pointless internet forum doesn't seem to understand the difference between self-worth and net worth.

Your worth to yourself is absolutely irrelevant in the sexual marketplace.
What matters, is your worth as perceived by the opposite sex.
Your true worth is how other people value you.

It is men who determine what the worth is of a particular woman in the sexual marketplace.
It is women who determine what the worth is of a particular man in the sexual marketplace.

"Self-worth" is just a delusional belief that is completely irrelevant to other people. "Self-worth" is, in fact, the motor of the modern woman's narcissism and the reason for her massively inflated ego. The larger the gap between your true marketplace value versus your dramatically inflated sense of "self-worth", the more you are deemed worthless by the opposite sex. No man wants to deal with a woman who thinks that she is a 9 while in fact she is just a 4.

[Skepdick]

Your worth to yourself is absolutely irrelevant in the sexual marketplace.
What matters, is your worth as perceived by the opposite sex.
Your true worth is how other people value you.

It is men who determine what the worth is of a particular woman in the sexual marketplace.
It is women who determine what the worth is of a particular man in the sexual marketplace.

"Self-worth" is just a delusional belief that is completely irrelevant to other people. "Self-worth" is, in fact, the motor of the modern woman's narcissism and the reason for her massively inflated ego. The larger the gap between your true marketplace value versus your dramatically inflated sense of "self-worth", the more you are deemed worthless by the opposite sex. No man wants to deal with a woman who thinks that she is a 9 while in fact she is just a 4.

You don't like the phrase "self-worth"? OK. How about inherent worth?

What do you think is the self-worth/inherent worth of children in the labour market; or sexual marketplace?

You think self-worth/inherent worth is a delusional belief completely irrelevant to other people? OK.... how much is the inherent worth of your life? Do you think that's just a delusional belief irrelevant to other people?

On your transactional world-view you are worth nothing more than the price of your organs on the black market.

How does a beta bitcoin bro deal with a 10 who doesn't put a pricetag on her pussy?

[godelian]

You think self-worth/inherent worth is a delusional belief completely irrelevant to other people?

The price, worth, or value of anything is meaningless unless there are at least two people involved: the buyer and the seller. You may believe that you are worth a salary of $500,000/year but if the best offer that comes out of the labor market is $50,000/year, then that is your true value to other people. So, yes, "self-worth" is delusional nonsense.

[Fairy]

You think self-worth/inherent worth is a delusional belief completely irrelevant to other people?

The price, worth, or value of anything is meaningless unless there are at least two people involved: the buyer and the seller. You may believe that you are worth a salary of $500,000/year but if the best offer that comes out of the labor market is $50,000/year, then that is your true value to other people. So, yes, "self-worth" is delusional nonsense.

Well said.

In order to be the best at what you do. You have to be delusional.

[Skepdick]

The price, worth, or value of anything is meaningless unless there are at least two people involved: the buyer and the seller.

Yes, you have made it explicit on multiple occasions that you are incapable of reasoning, except on transactional basis.

You may believe that you are worth a salary of $500,000/year but if the best offer that comes out of the labor market is $50,000/year, then that is your true value to other people. So, yes, "self-worth" is delusional nonsense.

Q.E.D you are incapable of reasoning about value without pricetags.

You are suffering a bad case of the McNamara fallacy. If you can't quantify it - it doesn't exist.

So...how much would you pay to keep your organs? And what if somebody outbids you for them on the black market?

[godelian]

You think self-worth/inherent worth is a delusional belief completely irrelevant to other people?

The price, worth, or value of anything is meaningless unless there are at least two people involved: the buyer and the seller. You may believe that you are worth a salary of $500,000/year but if the best offer that comes out of the labor market is $50,000/year, then that is your true value to other people. So, yes, "self-worth" is delusional nonsense.

Well said.

In order to be the best at what you do. You have to be delusional.

Modern women believe, based on their delusional self-worth, that a man would be interested in a "partner" who would own half of his assets or half of his income stream. This very idea is simply ridiculous. Seriously, I am not looking for someone to give half of my assets or half of my income to. What the hell is that person bringing to the table? Just some delusional "self-worth"?

Of course, I will allow a woman to benefit from my wealth, but she is certainly not entitled to half of it.

[Skepdick]

Modern women believe, based on their delusional self-worth, that a man would be interested in a "partner" who would own half of his assets or half of his income stream. This very idea is simply ridiculous. Seriously, I am not looking for someone to give half of my assets or half of my income to. What the hell is that person bringing to the table? Just some delusional "self-worth"?

Of course, I will allow a woman to benefit from my wealth, but she is certainly not entitled to half of it.

You are such a godly gift to women. How much reverse dowry does your family expect from the bride?

And what pricetag are you going to put on your organs in the prenup?

[Fairy]

The price, worth, or value of anything is meaningless unless there are at least two people involved: the buyer and the seller. You may believe that you are worth a salary of $500,000/year but if the best offer that comes out of the labor market is $50,000/year, then that is your true value to other people. So, yes, "self-worth" is delusional nonsense.

Well said.

In order to be the best at what you do. You have to be delusional.

Modern women believe, based on their delusional self-worth, that a man would be interested in a "partner" who would own half of his assets or half of his income stream. This very idea is simply ridiculous. Seriously, I am not looking for someone to give half of my assets or half of my income to. What the hell is that person bringing to the table? Just some delusional "self-worth"?

Of course, I will allow a woman to benefit from my wealth, but she is certainly not entitled to half of it.

Totally agree with that.

[godelian]

Q.E.D you are incapable of reasoning about value without pricetags.

Yes, in absence of a market that allows a price to emerge from supply and demand, there cannot be an objectively shared understanding of value.

You are suffering a bad case of the McNamara fallacy. If you can't quantify it - it doesn't exist.

In absence of quantification, it still exists, but there will be no objectively shared understanding of value or worth available. The air we breathe is certainly valuable, but the notion of its price or its worth is irrelevant because we are not buying or selling it.

In the sexual market place, we do exchange things. Inter-gender dynamics have a very transactional foundation. (Most) men want regular sex and (many) women want regular financial support. Men (mostly) value women's beauty, youth, and sexual self-respect. For a long-term arrangement, women (mostly) value men's financial resources.

All of this can be quantified.

It leads to a quite objectively shared understanding of your own position in the marketplace, of which modern women are deluded because of nonsensical notions of "self-worth". You are never worth more than what other people are willing to pay for you.

[Fairy]

You are never worth more than what other people are willing to pay for you.

Excellent point.

Any thing, no matter what that thing is, when desired and wanted. Comes with a cost to pay.

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

Unconditional Love is tough love.

[Skepdick]

Q.E.D you are incapable of reasoning about value without pricetags.

Yes, in absence of a market that allows a price to emerge from supply and demand, there cannot be an objectively shared understanding of value.

That's an argument from ignorance. Litearlly.

You are ignorant of the shared understanding of value that exists within society that is not market-based.

But hey, if you don't believe me... price your organs already.

In absence of quantification, it still exists, but there will be no objectively shared understanding of value or worth available.

That's not true. Price your organs already.

The air we breathe is certainly valuable, but the notion of its price or its worth is irrelevant because we are not buying or selling it.

Is that a challenge? We can always organize society in a way where you have to pay for it...

blah blah blah

I notice a trend here. You are refusing to price your own organs.

You are never worth more than what other people are willing to pay for you.

Hence the point of my question. The price of your organs is the maximum the market is wiling to pay for them.

Are you able to affor the market maximum?

[godelian]

Well said.

In order to be the best at what you do. You have to be delusional.

Modern women believe, based on their delusional self-worth, that a man would be interested in a "partner" who would own half of his assets or half of his income stream. This very idea is simply ridiculous. Seriously, I am not looking for someone to give half of my assets or half of my income to. What the hell is that person bringing to the table? Just some delusional "self-worth"?

Of course, I will allow a woman to benefit from my wealth, but she is certainly not entitled to half of it.

Totally agree with that.

Of course, she is perfectly free to produce heirs who will in due time inherit their fair share of the estate. Her children are also supposed to take care of their mother in old age. It is a question of properly educating the children as to understand their obligations. There is no problem in Asia in that respect. They all seem perfectly happy to do it.

[Fairy]

Modern women believe, based on their delusional self-worth, that a man would be interested in a "partner" who would own half of his assets or half of his income stream. This very idea is simply ridiculous. Seriously, I am not looking for someone to give half of my assets or half of my income to. What the hell is that person bringing to the table? Just some delusional "self-worth"?

Of course, I will allow a woman to benefit from my wealth, but she is certainly not entitled to half of it.

Totally agree with that.

Of course, she is perfectly free to produce heirs who will in due time inherit their fair share of the estate. Her children are also supposed to take care of their mother in old age. It is a question of properly educating the children as to understand their obligations. There is no problem in Asia in that respect. They all seem perfectly happy to do it.

Again, excellent point.

Very intelligent, actually.

There's always something for someone when everyone are willing to be obliging.

I like the way Asians think.

Maybe why they are the most beautiful looking people in the world. Everyone's happy.

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[godelian]

Maybe why they are the most beautiful looking people in the world. Everyone's happy.

In this area of the world, SE Asia, they look more like Blackpink Jennie:



With a bit darker honey-colored skin.

[Fairy]

accelafine...you are such an embarrassment to yourself. I'm embarrassed for you. NOT!!

That's why you deleted your last comment to me, out of sheer embarrassment, when on reflection of what you wrote, you realised how shameful the comment was, and how it was so distasteful that you couldn't even bear or stomach to look at it.

All gone now, hey ho.

Have you any idea what ''memory'' means, by the way?

H is dead to me now, he's simply a memory. Do you compute.

Why would I even waste my effort on trying to make '''NOTHINGNESS'' jealous?

What a joke, joker. The joke is on you, not me.