WW3 breaking out

[accelafine]

Well, if Israel stops retaliating against everyone in the region, then maybe there will be opportunity to negotiate a deal to get the hostages back. How is the present strategy that Netanyahu is using working out with regard to the hostages?

So Israel has no right to defend itself? It should just sit there and say 'pretty please give us back our people'? Keyboard warriors in the US and elsewhere just need to stay the fuck out of it. They aren't surrounded by hostile countries hell-bent on their destruction and mass slaughter. Gazans have done this to themselves. All they had to do was give back the hostages. They know that, so what does 'that' tell you? Wokies never mention the hostages or give a shit about them. How 'surprising'.

I agree that they should have given back the hostages. They should never have taken them in the first place. But retaliation isn't solving anything either. The Islamic countries are just going to keep heaping it back on and Russia and China will probably see supporting them as an opportunity to make friends in oil rich countries and continue supplying them with weaponry they need. What can anyone do except try to break the cycle of violence somehow? And the only thing that will break the cycle is a leap of good will on the part of one side or the other. Should I hold my breath for Iran and Lebanon to be the first ones to back down? The ball is now in Israel's court. They can either keep the cycle going or break the cycle and move toward peace.

It's also trying to eliminate Hamas plus the 'little matter' of fighting for its existence. Why should Israel give a shit what 'Western' wokies think?
You don't seem to have much awareness of what's going on there. Why don't you just stick with concerning yourself with your own upcoming election?

[Gary Childress]

So Israel has no right to defend itself? It should just sit there and say 'pretty please give us back our people'? Keyboard warriors in the US and elsewhere just need to stay the fuck out of it. They aren't surrounded by hostile countries hell-bent on their destruction and mass slaughter. Gazans have done this to themselves. All they had to do was give back the hostages. They know that, so what does 'that' tell you? Wokies never mention the hostages or give a shit about them. How 'surprising'.

I agree that they should have given back the hostages. They should never have taken them in the first place. But retaliation isn't solving anything either. The Islamic countries are just going to keep heaping it back on and Russia and China will probably see supporting them as an opportunity to make friends in oil rich countries and continue supplying them with weaponry they need. What can anyone do except try to break the cycle of violence somehow? And the only thing that will break the cycle is a leap of good will on the part of one side or the other. Should I hold my breath for Iran and Lebanon to be the first ones to back down? The ball is now in Israel's court. They can either keep the cycle going or break the cycle and move toward peace.

Why should Israel give a shit what 'Western' wokies think?

I don't know. They probably don't have to. They can keep doing what they're doing if they want I suppose. I'd rather see peace instead.

[Impenitent]

when every Islamic terrorist is dead- there will be peace

until then - buckle up buttercup

-Imp

[Gary Childress]

when every Islamic terrorist is dead- there will be peace

until then - buckle up buttercup

-Imp

There's something about the logic of "there will be peace, no matter how long we have to fight for it." that doesn't quite add up.

[godelian]

Umm no. That would be to return the hostages

We all know that in line with the Hannibal directive, better a dead hostage than a captive one, Netanyahu doesn't give a flying fart about the hostages. He'd rather bomb them into oblivion.

It even requires a complicated protocol to hand over the hostages because otherwise the IDF will open fire on them.

Furthermore, there are quite a few Palestinian prisoners that must first be released from Zionist prisons.

and stop firing rockets at Israel.

It is virtually impossible to negotiate anything with Netanyahu.

Replacing him with a more reasonable leader may not be a solution either because the Zionists will just assassinate him again.

The bare minimum for a serious truce is that the IDF withdraws behind the 1967 borders and that the Zionists abide by UNSC (United Nations Security Council) resolutions on the matter, it being clearly understood that any attempt at blockading the territories evacuated by the IDF will lead to renewed military action.

Oh, and for the Gazans to stop using their own people as human shields.

Since the headquarters of the Mossad are located in Tel Aviv, it does indeed make sense to carpet bomb its vicinity in at least a 20-mile radius.

The Mossad must stop using its own people as human shields.

Concerning any future carpet bombing of Zionist military targets, the principle of a 20-mile radius should be used to govern the matter.

So, do not loiter at less than 20 miles from any target correctly or even incorrectly deemed of military value to the seven nation army, i.e. the resistance. You will do so at your own risk and peril.

The fact that you did not know of the existence of such "nearby" military target, is not an excuse, and will not exempt you from becoming collateral damage.

In due time, the Zionist civilian population will be forewarned of the precise details of these new perfectly reasonable rules of engagement that closely mirror the existing practices of the IDF.

So, be careful what you ask for because you just might get it.

[accelafine]

No answer. What a 'surprise'. Another fucking armchair 'expert' who lives in Asia with a prostitute.

[accelafine]

The despicable thing is that they released the elderly hostages first instead of the children and babies. Fucking arseholes. Probably so they could torture the children to death. The most likely long-dead babies wouldn't even be babies any more. And yeah, kept so they could further torture Israelis by claiming that it was Israel's bombing that killed them.
Truly the most vile, disgusting, depraved, sadistic humans to have ever poisoned the planet with their presence.

[accelafine]

And why do they all look as if they have foetal alcohol syndrome? How ironic. Either that, or the result of generation upon generation of inbreeding.

[godelian]

The despicable thing is that they released the elderly hostages first instead of the children and babies. Fucking arseholes. Probably so they could torture the children to death. The most likely long-dead babies wouldn't even be babies any more. And yeah, kept so they could further torture Israelis by claiming that it was Israel's bombing that killed them.
Truly the most vile, disgusting, depraved, sadistic humans to have ever poisoned the planet with their presence.

To Hamas, the hostages are worth a lot more alive than dead. That is why they make sure that Israeli airstrikes can't get to them.

To the Zionists, it is exactly the other way around. According to the Hannibal directive, it is necessary for the IDF to promptly kill Israeli captives.

For example, if it is not possible to evacuate injured IDF soldiers. then a special NCO will stay behind to administer their final euthanasia care, by means of a deadly injection. He always does that out of sight of any other IDF soldiers.

Next, the NCO will use strong acid to destroy the bodies.

Hamas and Hezbollah have never been able to move injured IDF soldiers to a hospital. There are never injured IDF soldiers on the battlefield. There are not even dead bodies. There are only traces of strong acid.

Of course, it is against international law to do this, but as usual, the Zionists don't care about that.

[accelafine]

The despicable thing is that they released the elderly hostages first instead of the children and babies. Fucking arseholes. Probably so they could torture the children to death. The most likely long-dead babies wouldn't even be babies any more. And yeah, kept so they could further torture Israelis by claiming that it was Israel's bombing that killed them.
Truly the most vile, disgusting, depraved, sadistic humans to have ever poisoned the planet with their presence.

To Hamas, the hostages are worth a lot more alive than dead. That is why they make sure that Israeli airstrikes can't get to them.

To the Zionists, it is exactly the other way around. According to the Hannibal directive, it is necessary for the IDF to promptly kill Israeli captives.

For example, if it is not possible to evacuate injured IDF soldiers. then a special NCO will stay behind to administer their final euthanasia care, by means of a deadly injection. He always does that out of sight of any other IDF soldiers.

Next, the NCO will use strong acid to destroy the bodies.

Hamas and Hezbollah have never been able to move injured IDF soldiers to a hospital. There are never injured IDF soldiers on the battlefield. There are not even dead bodies. There are only traces of strong acid.

Of course, it is against international law to do this, but as usual, the Zionists don't care about that.

You still haven't said what a 'Zionist' is.

Are you a Nazi? Or a Bolshevik? What about a suffragette?

If they are worth so much alive then why do they keep killing them? You don't seem to have much of a clue about what's going on.

[accelafine]

Shir'el Golan survived the Nova Festival massacre where she witnessed terrible atrocities.
She took her own life yesterday, unable to live with the trauma.
She was only 22

So many suicides after Oct 7. I imagine many around the world as well.

[godelian]

You still haven't said what a 'Zionist' is.

You can find a good definition of Zionism in the wikipedia page on the subject:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement that emerged in Europe in the late 19th century and aimed for the establishment of a Jewish state through the colonization[2] of a land outside Europe.

Zionists wanted to create a Jewish state in Palestine with as much land, as many Jews, and as few Palestinians as possible.[5]

The Zionist claim to Palestine was based on the notion that Jews had a historical right to the land which outweighed the rights of the Arabs, which were "of no moral or historical significance."[11][30] According to Israeli historian Simha Flapan, the view expressed by the proclamation "there was no such thing as Palestinians".

In order to achieve a Jewish demographic majority, the Zionist movement was faced with a problem, namely the presence of the local Arab (and primarily non-Jewish) population.

Zionists used the term "transfer" as a euphemism for the removal, or ethnic cleansing, of the Arab Palestinian population.

"Transfer" was not only seen as desirable but also as an ideal solution by the Zionist leadership.[34]

The first expulsion of Palestinians began 12 days after the adoption of the UN resolution, and the first Palestinian village was eliminated a month later.[135] Between 1948 and 1949, 750,000 Palestinians would be driven out of their homes, primarily as a result of these expulsions and massacres.[154] As part of the effort to consolidate its new ownership over the land it had taken over in the 1948 war, the Israeli state worked towards "erasing all traces of its former owners."[68]

Moshe Dayan would later speak to the appropriation of Arab place names: Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist.

Are you a Nazi?

The Zionists have much more in common with the Nazis than the global pro-Palestine consensus.

Or a Bolshevik?

No, I am not a member of the Histadrut or one of its kibbutsim.

If they are worth so much alive then why do they keep killing them?

It has not always been possible to keep the hostages out of reach of Israeli airstrikes. Whenever the IDF gets wind of a precise location with hostages, they start carpet bombing it. In order to exchange them for Palestinian prisoners, these hostages obviously have to stay alive. This is, however, quite difficult to achieve. For over a year, the IDF has been targeting these hostages for elimination. Netanyahu simply does not want a prisoner exchange.

[accelafine]

I know what a Zionist was. You don't seem to.

[godelian]

I know what a Zionist was. You don't seem to.

What is it about the Zionist term "transfer" that I do not understand? Please, explain!

[Gary Childress]

It is virtually impossible to negotiate anything with Netanyahu.

Replacing him with a more reasonable leader may not be a solution either because the Zionists will just assassinate him again.

It's a disgrace what happened to Rabin, for no other reason than he sought peace with the Palestinians through the Oslo Accords. And Hamas also opposed the Oslo Accords. Some in Israel are still trying to get Rabin's assassin pardoned. And Hamas' greatest aspiration is to murder Jews, even ones that are sympathetic to peace with the Palestinians.

God save us all from religious fanatics!