Are men jealous of women?

[godelian]

Q.E.D you are actually incapable of operating in social structures where you are NOT in total control e.g you are a dictator.

You will never convince me to give away shares in my business. I simply won't happen.

[Skepdick]

They brought something different-yet-essential into he PARTNERSHIP.

My business exists already. It is already making ample amounts of money. I do not need a partner for that.

You are equating your business to Apple? Delusions of grandeur much?

If I need a secretary, do I also need to give away shares to her? No, I just get HR to recruit one for me, and she won't get shares.

That's great, but know that you are competing with me in the labor market. I give ALL my employees shares. Including my secretary.

So do you think the best secretary the market has to offer will come working for you; or for me?

Because the original shareholders went public and started SELLING shares and NOT GIVING AWAY.

You have absolutely no idea how share allocations and vesting scheduled work, do you?

I will never give away shares. Forget the whole idea because it simply won't happen.

That's why your business will never attract top talent.

[Skepdick]

Q.E.D you are actually incapable of operating in social structures where you are NOT in total control e.g you are a dictator.

You will never convince me to give away shares in my business. I simply won't happen.

OK. Then you will never have any top talent in your business. It simply won't happen.

Enjoy the pond of mediocrity of your own making.

[godelian]

You are equating your business to Apple? Delusions of grandeur much?

That depends on what year of the business we are comparing. I am definitely making more money than Apple in its first few years. That is not hard to do because Apple did not make much money at all back then.

That's great, but know that you are competing with me in the labor market. I give ALL my employees shares. Including my secretary.

Go for it! It's your business. So, feel free to do with its shares as you please.

So do you think the best secretary the market has to offer will come working for you; or for me?

Only a very small percentage of staff is interested in shares. The vast majority only care about their wages. That is why they are staff to begin with. If they really cared about shares, they would be entrepreneurs.

That's why your business will never attract top talent.

I certainly attract the sweetest sugar babes around. They don't talk about shares. That subject never even comes up. They just want to know what their condo will look like, and if it will have a swimming pool and a gym, and then how much of a customary sign-on bonus they will get and how much the allowance will be.

[Atla]

Quran. An-Nisa 4:34. Men are the caretakers of women, as men have been provisioned by Allah over women and tasked with supporting them financially. And righteous women are devoutly obedient and, when alone, protective of what Allah has entrusted them with.

A traditional woman is a respectable and honorable person. It is you who should be ashamed of your own feeble attempts at overruling the laws of God and nature.

You're so intimidated by women that you even have to invoke the aid of a supernatural deity to help oppress them.

[godelian]

You're so intimidated by women that you even have to invoke the aid of a supernatural deity to help oppress them.

No man is ever intimidated by a woman. That is a myth. That is some kind of urban legend.

So, if you provide for a woman, you oppress her?

Maybe you understand why in modern times men do not want to provide for women anymore. This is fine for the two thirds of the female population in the West that can hold down a job. However, around one third does not manage to cover their living expenses. They are perennially short of cash. At the same time, a large number of single men typically sit on a growing stash of savings. They would possibly spend it on a woman but since that is considered "oppressive", they simply don't. I agree that a man should never provide for a woman if she considers that to be oppressive. In that case, it is better to let her deal by herself with her overdue credit card bills and her landlord eviction notices.

Local women in Asia do not find it oppressive that a man provides for them. That is why over here it is not a problem to spend money on a woman.

[Skepdick]

That depends on what year of the business we are comparing. I am definitely making more money than Apple in its first few years. That is not hard to do because Apple did not make much money at all back then.

Goes to show you have absolutely no grasp of the builder/inventor (value-creator) mindset.

On your current trajectory when do you expect your business to become a Fortune 100 company?

Who's your Wozniak? Because you are no Steve Jobs.

Go for it! It's your business. So, feel free to do with its shares as you please.

Obviously, Captain Obvious. But you dodged the question for some reason.

Given your unwillingness to profit-share do you think top talent will work for me; or you?

Maybe you are simply saying "this pie isn't big enough"? That's a sure way to tell me working for you is a waste my valuable time.

Only a very small percentage of staff is interested in shares. The vast majority only care about their wages. That is why they are staff to begin with. If they really cared about shares, they would be entrepreneurs.

I didn't ask you that. Everybody cares about wages - people have to eat, and have homes etc.

I asked you if you think your business strategy is likely to attract top talent e.g who understand their own worth.

I certainly attract the sweetest sugar babes around. They don't talk about shares. That subject never even comes up. They just want to know what their condo will look like, and if it will have a swimming pool and a gym, and then how much of a customary sign-on bonus they will get and how much the allowance will be.

Precisely! You attract insecure women who don't know their own worth. So they engage in the exact same transactional way you do.

They are selling you their sexuality. Which you couldn't attract without buying it.

You attract women who have no self-worth.

[Fairy]

My 'forum Casanova' comment was a JOKE Perhaps 'predator' would have been a better word.

Ok Joker.

As you both live in Yorkshire then I suppose 'hooking up' was inevitable.

Not inevitable on my account. I was just living my life, being more than happy and content with single life that I have chosen to live by until I die.
But when H contacted me, I just changed my mind, and went along with his desire to hook-up, cos I thought 'why not, might as well give it a whirl' it's just life doing what life does sometimes. No big deal.

It's impossible to know what's true or not with you anyway. You flit from one extreme to the other, often in the space of less than a minute--giving accounts that are the exact OPPOSITE of each other.

I only express the truth in the immediacy of the exact moment I'm bleating.

I guess I'm just an emotionally driven person [to wit] I act or react without pausing to think about what I am saying sometimes. I'm reactive, I know. That said, I can only express myself in exact alignment with what my emotional mood is feeling at any given time. Just being my true self in every moment, and not worrying about what other people think of me, is my personal strength and resolve, it's what keeps me empowered in my true worth as a human being. I simply would feel uncomfortable acting like some fake charlatan. I'm not on this forum to make friends or find my soul mate. I simple do not care whether people like me or not. I'm just a messenger of many truths. I have no other agenda. And what's more, I understand I am leaving myself to be open to judgement and critique, but that's just 'par for the course' I guess, which I accept 100%.

A 'two year 'in love' relationship' is a really big deal. Hooking up occasionally for coffee (or whatever) over a two year period and having it eventually 'fizzle out'... not so much.

OK

So why have you singled out Harbal for exposure and not all the other forum members who have been trying to get into your underwear? I think we all deserve to know who these predatory males are

The other people who contacted me were simply interested in my nondual writing style, there are many people on this forum interested in nonduality. . They were not in the least bit predatory. What's wrong with people PM-ing each other on a forum who have same ideas in common?

And what does it matter whether these contacts are a man or woman?

I singled H out because he dumped me and gave me absolutely no reason for doing so, in his cowardly way, he just thought it was a good idea to say nothing and ghost me instead. So I thought I'd give him some home truths. Because cowardly men deserve nothing more than to be served some home truths.

[Skepdick]

....

Here's something that you might find relevant to your mindset; and why it ultimately lead to cultural mediocrity.

https://www.meforum.org/middle-east-qua ... -lose-wars

[accelafine]

re 'Godelian's' garbage

You are talking about prostitutes--not normal women. You seem to be rather confused. There are plenty of women who live in a relationship of mutual support with a man in 'the West'. That's a lot different from some creepy incel man using his money to pay a woman to live with him and do his bidding. I almost feel sorry for you.

[Atla]

You're so intimidated by women that you even have to invoke the aid of a supernatural deity to help oppress them.

No man is ever intimidated by a woman. That is a myth. That is some kind of urban legend.

So, if you provide for a woman, you oppress her?

Maybe you understand why in modern times men do not want to provide for women anymore. This is fine for the two thirds of the female population in the West that can hold down a job. However, around one third does not manage to cover their living expenses. They are perennially short of cash. At the same time, a large number of single men typically sit on a growing stash of savings. They would possibly spend it on a woman but since that is considered "oppressive", they simply don't. I agree that a man should never provide for a woman if she considers that to be oppressive. In that case, it is better to let her deal by herself with her overdue credit card bills and her landlord eviction notices.

Local women in Asia do not find it oppressive that a man provides for them. That is why over here it is not a problem to spend money on a woman.

Spending money on women and forcing them to be "devoutly obidient" aren't the same thing. You need Allah to help oppress them, make them devoutly obidient, because given free will they would never be with you.

[godelian]

Precisely! You attract insecure women who don't know their own worth.

Modern women are delusional about their worth to a man. That is one of the many reasons why they end up single. Do you really believe that I am going to give away half my business just for for some sex? The women that you are talking about are not insecure. They are simply very realistic.

[accelafine]

My 'forum Casanova' comment was a JOKE Perhaps 'predator' would have been a better word.

Ok Joker.

As you both live in Yorkshire then I suppose 'hooking up' was inevitable.

Not inevitable on my account. I was just living my life, being more than happy and content with single life that I have chosen to live by until I die.
But when H contacted me, I just changed my mind, and went along with his desire to hook-up, cos I thought 'why not, might as well give it a whirl' it's just life doing what life does sometimes. No big deal.

It's impossible to know what's true or not with you anyway. You flit from one extreme to the other, often in the space of less than a minute--giving accounts that are the exact OPPOSITE of each other.

I only express the truth in the immediacy of the exact moment I'm bleating.

I guess I'm just an emotionally driven person [to wit] I act or react without pausing to think about what I am saying sometimes. I'm reactive, I know. That said, I can only express myself in exact alignment with what my emotional mood is feeling at any given time. Just being my true self in every moment, and not worrying about what other people think of me, is my personal strength and resolve, it's what keeps me empowered in my true worth as a human being. I simply would feel uncomfortable acting like some fake charlatan. I'm not on this forum to make friends or find my soul mate. I simple do not care whether people like me or not. I'm just a messenger of many truths. I have no other agenda. And what's more, I understand I am leaving myself to be open to judgement and critique, but that's just 'par for the course' I guess, which I accept 100%.

A 'two year 'in love' relationship' is a really big deal. Hooking up occasionally for coffee (or whatever) over a two year period and having it eventually 'fizzle out'... not so much.

OK

So why have you singled out Harbal for exposure and not all the other forum members who have been trying to get into your underwear? I think we all deserve to know who these predatory males are

The other people who contacted me were simply interested in my nondual writing style, there are many people on this forum interested in nonduality. . They were not in the least bit predatory. What's wrong with people PM-ing each other on a forum who have same ideas in common?

And what does it matter whether these contacts are a man or woman?

There you go again, contradicting yourself. You said quite a few men had pursued 'relationships' with you on here. Now what exactly do you think that is going to sound like to anyone who reads that?

[Skepdick]

Modern women are delusional about their worth to a man. That is one of the many reasons why they end up single. Do you really believe that I am going to give away half my business just for for some sex? The women that you are talking about are not insecure. They are simply very realistic.

You are perpetually confused. Partnerships are NOT transactional.

Partnerships are about mutual augmentation. Your job as a leader is to hire people who make the business better!

The irony of your entire psychology is that you are so obsessed about wealth and money; yet you insist on structuring your business precisely in a manner to make the LEAST amount of money possible.

It's a form of self-sabotage. And frankly - you seem delusional about your worth. To anyone, but yourself.

[godelian]

Spending money on women and forcing them to be "devoutly obidient" aren't the same thing. You need Allah to help oppress them, make them devoutly obidient, because given free will they would never be with you.

Concerning "devoutly obedient", they live a lifestyle that is not self-defeating. You actually don't even have to tell them to do that. They were educated like that. There are obviously rules. If I expect that I would have to police a woman's behavior, then I would not even recruit her. In that case, it is her parents' failure that is the problem. I am not going to take over the mess and try to fix it.