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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:55 am
godelian wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:46 am
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:41 am Hamas shouldn't have attacked Israel.
It does not matter anymore. Israel and the United States are guilty of genocide. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
I agree that Netanyahu has pushed things too far. However, Hamas attacked the Israelis. All Hamas wanted was revenge. They took that over seeking a better life for the people of Gaza. Netanyahu is now using that to get what the Zionists want. The US has been trying to reign in Netanyahu but Netanyahu refuses to budge. It's not the will of the US or the West to destroy the people of Gaza. But we don't want Israel destroyed either.
Only when humans wake up to the fact that every human being came to this world in exactly the same way, as a naked, innocent, unknowing form.

We must never forget our origins, we are all the same human, and NOT our religious or ethnic beliefs, like I am a zionist, or I am a muslim, or I am a christian, or I am an atheist, or I am a believer, or I am a jew.

Only when humans understand that they are all naturally the same human being.. and not what their beliefs about what they only think they are, but are not, will there be peace on earth, only then, when humans choose to wake up to their truth, will there be peace on earth,

...Until then, it's business as usual in the form of WAR ...all because of the false belief in separation which is I am this and you are that, and never the twain shall meet.
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Fairy wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:56 am
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:55 am
godelian wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:46 am
It does not matter anymore. Israel and the United States are guilty of genocide. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
I agree that Netanyahu has pushed things too far. However, Hamas attacked the Israelis. All Hamas wanted was revenge. They took that over seeking a better life for the people of Gaza. Netanyahu is now using that to get what the Zionists want. The US has been trying to reign in Netanyahu but Netanyahu refuses to budge. It's not the will of the US or the West to destroy the people of Gaza. But we don't want Israel destroyed either.
Only when humans wake up to the fact that every human being came to this world in exactly the same way, as a naked, innocent, unknowing form.

We must never forget our origins, we are all the same human, and NOT our religious or ethnic beliefs, like I am a zionist, or I am a muslim, or I am a christian, or I am an atheist, or I am a believer, or I am a jew.

Only when humans understand that they are all naturally the same human being.. and not what their beliefs about what they only think they are, but are not, will there be peace on earth, only then, when humans choose to wake up to their truth, will there be peace on earth,

...Until then, it's business as usual in the form of WAR ...all because of the false belief in separation which is I am this and you are that, and never the twain shall meet.
It might also be a good idea to care about the rest of the world we live in. Aren't you the one who doesn't care if the world blows up in a nuclear war?
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:04 am
Fairy wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:56 am
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:55 am

I agree that Netanyahu has pushed things too far. However, Hamas attacked the Israelis. All Hamas wanted was revenge. They took that over seeking a better life for the people of Gaza. Netanyahu is now using that to get what the Zionists want. The US has been trying to reign in Netanyahu but Netanyahu refuses to budge. It's not the will of the US or the West to destroy the people of Gaza. But we don't want Israel destroyed either.
Only when humans wake up to the fact that every human being came to this world in exactly the same way, as a naked, innocent, unknowing form.

We must never forget our origins, we are all the same human, and NOT our religious or ethnic beliefs, like I am a zionist, or I am a muslim, or I am a christian, or I am an atheist, or I am a believer, or I am a jew.

Only when humans understand that they are all naturally the same human being.. and not what their beliefs about what they only think they are, but are not, will there be peace on earth, only then, when humans choose to wake up to their truth, will there be peace on earth,

...Until then, it's business as usual in the form of WAR ...all because of the false belief in separation which is I am this and you are that, and never the twain shall meet.
It might also be a good idea to care about the rest of the world we live in. Aren't you the one who doesn't care if the world blows up in a nuclear war?
No, no one cares about the rest of the world, people only care about themself. People can only keep their own house in order, care about their own well being. When every one has their own house in order, caring about their own well being. Only then will we know peace, because we will all be at peace with ourself.

That's how it works.

I will never personally press the red button. I never said I would. If someone else presses the red button, what the hell can I do about that??

Why would I care about that deranged human being. I can't stop a mad person from destroying the world, and quite frankly, I wouldn't care one iota if a mad person destroyed the world, because who in their right mind would want to live in a world where people are only interested in the self-destruction of everyone?

If that's all people are interested in, then I'm out. Bye, see you later gator.

We do not always have the full story of what people mean when they say the things they say, we only have our interpretation of what we thought they meant, but that interpretation does not necessarily mean what was actually meant.
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Fairy wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:23 am I will never personally press the red button. I never said I would. If someone else presses the red button, what the hell can I do about that??
You can (at the very minimum) speak up and protest them doing so, or at least not sit there and say, "Oh I don't care if you destroy us all."
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:26 am
Fairy wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:23 am I will never personally press the red button. I never said I would. If someone else presses the red button, what the hell can I do about that??
You can (at the very minimum) speak up and protest them doing so, or at least not sit there and say, "Oh I don't care if you destroy us all."
I can protest until the cows come home. But I do not have to wait until then. I am already home, whether I am in this world or not.

And what did protests ever do to stop anything? I can plead with you to not jump from a high rise building to your death, but ultimately I cannot stop you from jumping if that is what you were determined to do. Even if I hung onto to your arm and held you back, gravity would eventually take us both.
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:51 am Furthermore, all that Putin and the "resistance" are doing is simply playing into the hands of extremist nationalists in the US. If they get their man elected, Trump, then it seems to me that it's eventually not going to be very pretty for anyone on this planet?
In terms of public relations, it is essential for the resistance to remain conciliatory and to offer to negotiate, since we can count on Netanyahu to reject any such offer anyway. Concerning Trump, he is free to send American boots on the ground in Israel, if he so desires. Just like in the Vietnam war and the Afghanistan war, it will not make any difference whatsoever as to the final outcome.

The war may indeed get nuclear, but it is not possible nor desirable for the resistance to take that into account or to modify its objectives based on that. Furthermore, the nuclear submarine fleet of the Russian Federation can target any point on earth with a view on retaliating decisively against a nuclear first strike.
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godelian wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:39 pm The war may indeed get nuclear, but it is not possible nor desirable for the resistance to take that into account or to modify its objectives based on that.
You're deranged. Dissed by a woman and now you don't care if the world is destroyed. Try being locked up in a psych ward. Then come talk to me about misfortune. In the meantime, I'll be hoping the world survives.
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:00 pm
godelian wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:39 pm The war may indeed get nuclear, but it is not possible nor desirable for the resistance to take that into account or to modify its objectives based on that.
You're deranged. Dissed by a woman and now you don't care if the world is destroyed. Try being locked up in a psych ward. Then come talk to me about misfortune. In the meantime, I'll be hoping the world survives.
Try to convince Putin. He has clarified umpteen times that he will not hesitate to retaliate by means of nuclear weapons to a nuclear first attack. That is exactly what I would also do. It is nothing personal, neither for him nor for me. It is just business.
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:55 am The US has been trying to reign in Netanyahu but Netanyahu refuses to budge.
In a sense, Netanyahu is exactly what the resistance needs.

Netanyahu will try -- and most likely fail -- to attack Iran's nuclear facilities. He will also try to attack Iran's oil facilities. That is what will provide the justification for Iran to simultaneously carry out an overwhelming saturation attack on Israel's air defenses and air force, as well as destroy Israel's four main electricity plants, its water processing plants, its main port terminals, and possibly its civilian airports as well.

That will be the turning point of the war.

Chances are that Turkey will join the war shortly after. Egypt and Jordan will inevitably switch sides.

From there on, we can simply count down to the unconditional surrender of the Zionist apartheidsregime.
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godelian wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:11 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:00 pm
godelian wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:39 pm The war may indeed get nuclear, but it is not possible nor desirable for the resistance to take that into account or to modify its objectives based on that.
You're deranged. Dissed by a woman and now you don't care if the world is destroyed. Try being locked up in a psych ward. Then come talk to me about misfortune. In the meantime, I'll be hoping the world survives.
Try to convince Putin. He has clarified umpteen times that he will not hesitate to retaliate by means of nuclear weapons to a nuclear first attack.
There's not going to be a first nuclear attack by the West. We're not the ones who've been rattling the nuclear saber every 3 months.
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:15 pm There's not going to be a first nuclear attack by the West. We're not the ones who've been rattling the nuclear saber every 3 months.
I can certainly see Netanyahu do it. In fact, it doesn't matter if he does it. It won't spare the Zionists from an overwhelming saturation attack by Iran that will take out their air defenses (and their air force). After the turning point in the war, every missile or drone launched by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Iraqi or Yemeni resistance will always strike its intended target. From there on, the resistance will accept only the unconditional surrender of the Zionists. In my opinion, we are only days away from the turning point. It is our beloved friend Netanyahu who will choose on what date exactly the incapacitation of the Zionists will finally materialize. I am eagerly waiting for Netanyahu to give the go ahead.
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godelian wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:40 pm I am eagerly waiting for Netanyahu to give the go ahead.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I'll be "eagerly" hoping for a ceasefire.
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:46 pm
godelian wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:40 pm I am eagerly waiting for Netanyahu to give the go ahead.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I'll be "eagerly" hoping for a ceasefire.
Netanyahu doesn't want one! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Officially, the resistance also "wants" a ceasefire, but our beloved friend Netanyahu keeps rejecting the very idea.
Furthermore, Galant has promised us some black magic when attacking Iran. So, where is it? Where is his Wunderwaffe? Can we finally see it?
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godelian wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:51 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:46 pm
godelian wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:40 pm I am eagerly waiting for Netanyahu to give the go ahead.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I'll be "eagerly" hoping for a ceasefire.
Netanyahu doesn't want one! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Officially, the resistance also "wants" a ceasefire, but our beloved friend Netanyahu keeps rejecting the very idea.
Furthermore, Galant has promised us some black magic when attacking Iran. So, where is it? Where is his Wunderwaffe? Can we finally see it?
It's possible that Netanyahu thinks God is going to intervene and deliver victory to Israel. That's my personal suspicion. Apparently, the religious zealots have taken hold over there. However, I doubt such fantasies will do anything. Not after all the carnage Israel has wrought.
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:00 pm Try being locked up in a psych ward. Then come talk to me about misfortune.
Your the one who believes there is something deranged about your mind. Then willing allow yourself to be locked up for your belief.. And no one was forcing you to be locked up except your own willingness to believe there was something terribly misfortunate and wrong with your own mind, as if your mind was ruling and taking over you.

Can minds have that sort of power over people?

Wow, imagine that, imagine a baby being locked up for believing it's own mind was out to imprison it and that belief was causing it to suffer so much misfortune.
Ask yourself, where do you get your beliefs from? ...oh that's right, your own mind, right? ...where else?

Mind is either your prison or your absolute freedom and peace. Only you get to choose. No one else does.

You say you want a better world for people, so why not extend that want to yourself. Why don't you make your mind a better mind, one that's healthy and free and at peace. Just like you want the world to be healthy, and free and at peace.

The world is the way it is because that's how we like it. If we didn't like it, we would change it...right?

We would change our mind about the state of it, according to our mental construction of it....right?
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:02 pm
godelian wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:51 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:46 pm

Different strokes for different folks I guess. I'll be "eagerly" hoping for a ceasefire.
Netanyahu doesn't want one! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Officially, the resistance also "wants" a ceasefire, but our beloved friend Netanyahu keeps rejecting the very idea.
Furthermore, Galant has promised us some black magic when attacking Iran. So, where is it? Where is his Wunderwaffe? Can we finally see it?
It's possible that Netanyahu thinks God is going to intervene and deliver victory to Israel. That's my personal suspicion. Apparently, the religious zealots have taken hold over there. However, I doubt such fantasies will do anything. Not after all the carnage Israel has wrought.
Israel hasn't 'wrought' anything. What the fuck did you expect it to do? Just forget about the hostages and the slaughter? You don't seem to mind the havoc that your own country wreaks in the ME. Yeah, there was a ceasefire. On Oct 6 last year. Gee. I wonder what happened after that :?
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