The Ealing Interpretation

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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Age wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:50 am
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:35 am
Age wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:22 am ONCE AGAIN, NOT A SINGLE WORD USED TO EVEN JUST TRY TO COUNTER NOR REFUTE A WORD THAT I SAID AND WROTE HERE.

Instead, only another attempt to TRY TO RIDICULE, HUMILIATE, and/or DISCREDIT Me.

However, not AN ACTUAL word EVER ACTUALLY DID.
Right, and that's the problem, little Age. You can't be humiliated because you are so utterly lacking in self-awareness that you are incapable of feeling any shame for being such a brazen hypocrite.

I mean, here you are whining about someone trying to ridicule, humiliate, and discredit you after you constantly tried to ridicule, humiliate, and discredit Will Bouwman...

(and anyone else who disagrees with you)

...with your endless barrage of LOLs (a juvenile form of ridicule) after the valid points he makes, and by persistently telling him how "...BLIND, CLOSED, and STUPID..." he is, when, in fact, Will Bouwman is one of the most intelligent (and "patient," I might add) members of this forum.

Clearly, I portray you as a blubbering little toddler, not only because you keep using the silly phrase "...you adult human beings...", thus establishing the infantile perspective from which you view the rest of us,...

...but also based on the fact that you keep proving that you are simply not mature enough to know how to play the role of a self-reflective person who is at least capable of visualizing how his own words might be interpreted by others as being nothing but condescending and insulting.

Again, little Age, you are a hypocrite of the first order who needs to take a good long look in the mirror before complaining about people trying to discredit you after your constant use of "LOLs" (again, a form of ridicule) and calling others "STUPID."
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Here 'we' have another prime example of just how often and how much these people, back when this was written, would ABSOLUTELY completely and utterly MISINTERPRET things, like for example what I have said and meant here, and then 'try' and make out that there own False and Wrong MISINTERPRETATIONS were what was right and correct.

This one for example has ABSOLUTELY NO idea NOR what I mean when I just say and write things like 'stupid' and 'lol'.
You're a big fan of having things clarified, right?

Well, just for funzies, I presented our silly situation to the great oracle Google, and here is what she said (bolding and sizing for emphasis mine):
Me:
What does it generally mean when someone replies to someone else in a debate with LOL (laugh out loud)?

Google:

AI Overview
When someone replies to a debate argument with "LOL" (laugh out loud), it usually indicates that they find the opposing argument so ridiculous or flawed that they are amused by it, often implying a level of disbelief or mockery towards the point being made, rather than genuine laughter.

Key points about using "LOL" in a debate:

Dismissive tone:
It's often used to downplay the seriousness of the other person's argument, suggesting it's not worth taking seriously.

Sarcasm or irony:
In a debate setting, "LOL" can be a way to express sarcasm or irony, highlighting the absurdity of the opposing view.

ME:
What does it generally mean when someone calls someone else "stupid"?

Google:

AI Overview
When someone calls another person "stupid," it generally means they believe that person is lacking intelligence, is making a foolish decision, or is displaying a lack of common sense, often used as a derogatory term to express disapproval or frustration with someone's actions or ideas.

Key points about calling someone "stupid":

Negative connotation:
"Stupid" is considered a highly negative insult, indicating a low opinion of someone's mental abilities.

Condescending:
Using this term often implies that the speaker is judging the other person as intellectually inferior.
My goodness, little Age, the fact that you don't seem to have the slightest idea of how the terms "LOL" and "STUPID" are generally understood and interpreted by the "...adult human beings in the days when this was written...",...

...seems to indicate that you are the one who is STUPID (i.e., intellectually inferior, displaying a lack of common sense).

And just to be clear now, when I refer to you as being "STUPID" as is further defined by the word's following synonyms,...
  • unintelligent
    ignorant
    dense
    brainless
    mindless
    foolish
    dull-witted
    dull
    slow-witted
    witless
    slow
    dunce-like
    simpleminded
    empty-headed
    vacuous
    vapid
    halfwitted
    idiotic
    moronic
    imbecilic
    imbecile
    obtuse
    doltish
    gullible
    naive
    thick
    dim
    dumb
    dopey
    dozy
    crazy
    cretinous
    birdbrained
    peabrained
    pig-ignorant
    bovine
    slow on the uptake
    soft in the head
    brain-dead
    boneheaded
    lamebrained
    thickheaded
    chuckleheaded
    dunderheaded
    wooden
    wooden-headed
    fat-headed
    muttonheaded
    daft
    barmy
    not the full shilling
    thick as two short planks
    silly
    scatterbrained
    crackbrained
    nonsensical
    senseless
    irresponsible
    unthinking
    ill-advised
    ill-considered
    inept
    damfool
    unwise
    injudicious
    indiscreet
    short-sighted
    inane
    absurd
    ludicrous
    ridiculous
    laughable
    risible
    fatuous
    asinine
    pointless
    meaningless
    futile
    fruitless
    mad
    insane
    lunatic
    cracked
    half-baked
    cock-eyed
    harebrained
    nutty
    derpy
    cuckoo
    loony
    loopy
    zany
    screwy
    off one's head
    off one's trolley
    out to lunch
    potty
    dotty
    batty
    gormless
    etc.
...it is in no way meant to be an insult or condescending.

No, it's just me being too vacuous, asinine, pig-headed, birdbrained and cretinous, etc., to understand what the word "STUPID" actually means in the days when this was written.
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Age wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:22 am ONCE AGAIN, NOT A SINGLE WORD USED TO EVEN JUST TRY TO COUNTER NOR REFUTE A WORD THAT I SAID AND WROTE HERE.

Instead, only another attempt to TRY TO RIDICULE, HUMILIATE, and/or DISCREDIT Me.
This scared the shit out of me. It was foretold that as we are nearing the apocalypse, Age will scream in all caps more and more. And finally there will come a day when Age presses the all caps one last time (or rather smashes it with all his/her might, breaking not just the keyboard in two but also the desk under it). And then Age will scream in all caps for a whole week, and then the universe will be destroyed, it will quickly collapse back into a black hole singularity, but not before things will get exponentially painful. I thought there for a second that our time has finally come, whew..
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Will Bouwman wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 2:59 pm
Age wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:47 pmif, and when, one is open are they then able to learn, more and/or anew. And, if, and when, one is closed, then they are NOT able to learn, any thing that opposes their 'current' belief or presumption about what is true, as this belief or presumption is what is closing them off, from learning. So, what I mean when I call someone 'stupid' is that they are just not able to learn, because they are just closed.
I see. What have you learnt recently?
That the Universe did NOT begin, was NOT smaller, and is NOT expanding, like you BELIEVE and CLAIM It is.

I have learnt that what you CLAIM is 'evidence' here, for what you are 'currently' BELIEVING is true here, is NOT actual 'evidence' at all.[

I learnt that there is NO human mind.

I learnt why you and others keep making misrepresentations, which keep leading you to the Wrong conclusions here.

I also learnt why you are NOT yet able to see things properly and Correctly here.
Age wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:47 pmThere was, and is, ABSOLUTELY NO ridicule NOR humiliation intended, at all.

What did you believe or presume I was meaning, exactly, when I use the 'stupid' word?
Well here's the thing; I thought you meant stupid.
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So clarify. What do you mean you say 'stupid'?
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Will Bouwman wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:12 pm
Age wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:57 pm Now, obviously while one is, and/or was, presuming or believing that the sun revolved around the earth was true, then they were NOT open to learning what the actual Truth is...
You keep saying this. It is not a good analogy. The thing that made people believe the Earth orbits the Sun, is the same that makes so.e believe in the big bang - evidence.
And, you keep saying and writing this, while I keep informing you that things like 'God exists', and that 'God is a male' are believed is because of so-called 'evidence'. The 'earth is flat' and the 'sun revolves around the earth' were also believed true because of 'evidence'.

What you keep MISSING and MISUNDERSTANDING here "will bouwman" EVERY thing you human beings believe is true is because of, so-called, 'evidence'.

And, it appears, no matter how many times I have told you that 'evidence' is NOT 'proof' of some thing, you can NOT seem to grasp and accept this Fact.

Absolutely every BELIEF you human beings want to continue to holed, no matter how False or Wrong it is, like for example, the Universe began, and/or is expanding, you human beings will 'try to' 'justify' by claiming, 'there is evidence'.

LOL you human beings even 'try to' claim that the 'earth is flat', the 'earth is at the centre of the Universe', 'God is a he', the 'Universe began by a so-called God or a so-called big bang, and/or the 'Universe was once smaller', while also claiming, 'because there is evidence'.

you adult human beings are SO BLIND you do even RECOGNIZE what you have been doing here.
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:20 pm _______

You're stupid!...

Image

...No, you're stupid...

...No, you're stupider...

...No, you're stupider...

...No, you're super-duper stupider...

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This here about sums up, exactly, what adult human beings did, and thus what they were like, back in the 'olden days' when this was being written.

As can be seen throughout this forum.

Not a one of them have commented, responded to, nor even attempted to discuss my views on WHY the Universe did NOT begin, was NEVER smaller, nor on WHY the Universe is NOT expanding, at all. But, they have certainly 'looked at' 'me', 'judged' 'me', and 'talked about' 'me', here, instead.

In fact this one here has even admitted that it was 'trying to' ridicule and humiliate 'me' and 'trying to' 'discredit' 'me' through ridicule and humiliation.

"seeds" has not even bothered to 'try to' refute nor counter the actual words I have used here.
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm
Age wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:50 am
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:35 am
Right, and that's the problem, little Age. You can't be humiliated because you are so utterly lacking in self-awareness that you are incapable of feeling any shame for being such a brazen hypocrite.

I mean, here you are whining about someone trying to ridicule, humiliate, and discredit you after you constantly tried to ridicule, humiliate, and discredit Will Bouwman...

(and anyone else who disagrees with you)

...with your endless barrage of LOLs (a juvenile form of ridicule) after the valid points he makes, and by persistently telling him how "...BLIND, CLOSED, and STUPID..." he is, when, in fact, Will Bouwman is one of the most intelligent (and "patient," I might add) members of this forum.

Clearly, I portray you as a blubbering little toddler, not only because you keep using the silly phrase "...you adult human beings...", thus establishing the infantile perspective from which you view the rest of us,...

...but also based on the fact that you keep proving that you are simply not mature enough to know how to play the role of a self-reflective person who is at least capable of visualizing how his own words might be interpreted by others as being nothing but condescending and insulting.

Again, little Age, you are a hypocrite of the first order who needs to take a good long look in the mirror before complaining about people trying to discredit you after your constant use of "LOLs" (again, a form of ridicule) and calling others "STUPID."
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Here 'we' have another prime example of just how often and how much these people, back when this was written, would ABSOLUTELY completely and utterly MISINTERPRET things, like for example what I have said and meant here, and then 'try' and make out that there own False and Wrong MISINTERPRETATIONS were what was right and correct.

This one for example has ABSOLUTELY NO idea NOR what I mean when I just say and write things like 'stupid' and 'lol'.
You're a big fan of having things clarified, right?
Yes.

And, again, than you for the clarifying question, here.
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm Well, just for funzies, I presented our silly situation to the great oracle Google, and here is what she said (bolding and sizing for emphasis mine):
Me:
What does it generally mean when someone replies to someone else in a debate with LOL (laugh out loud)?
WHY would you even begin to use the words 'laugh out loud' for here, exactly?

ONCE MORE, I will suggest that you human beings SEEK OUT and OBTAIN ACTUAL CLARIFICATION, and thus ACTUAL CLARITY, FIRST. BEFORE you make ANY ASSUMPTION AT ALL. That way you will not be SO Wrong, SO OFTEN, as you have been, and still are.
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm Google:

AI Overview
When someone replies to a debate argument with "LOL" (laugh out loud), it usually indicates that they find the opposing argument so ridiculous or flawed that they are amused by it, often implying a level of disbelief or mockery towards the point being made, rather than genuine laughter.
Now here is ANOTHER PRIME example of one, SEEKING OUT to OBTAIN, (see and hear) ONLY what 'it' is, that they ONLY want to hear, see, and FIND.

This one here, like others in this forum do when they 'speak with' 'chatgpt' machines, is 'telling' the machine to, more or less, just 'repeat' what they 'want to hear'.

LOL

The posters in this forum, ONCE AGAIN, have PROVED, IRREFUTABLY, that they will just 'proceed one' from their OWN assumptions, conclusions, and beliefs, even if those assumptions, conclusions, or beliefs were False and/or Wrong from the very outset.

They, literally,.do not stop, for even just a part of a second to just consider to whether to CLARIFY or not. They, instead, as this one has PROVED, again, that it will just 'keep going' with its OWN presumptions and beliefs no matter how False, Wrong, Inaccurate, Incorrect, distorted, or twisted they REALLY ARE.
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm Key points about using "LOL" in a debate:

Dismissive tone:
It's often used to downplay the seriousness of the other person's argument, suggesting it's not worth taking seriously.
Well, OBVIOUSLY, if one is spreading Falsehoods, like for example, the earth is flat, the earth is at the centre of the Universe, God is a male, or the Universe began, then that one is best not take seriously, at all.
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm Sarcasm or irony:
In a debate setting, "LOL" can be a way to express sarcasm or irony, highlighting the absurdity of the opposing view.
Noted that even 'the ones' that you adult human beings are 'now', in the days when this is being written, are 'looking up to', for guidance and/or insight, that is; machines, even here NEVER states that 'these things' are the ONLY things that ARE being done.
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm ME:
What does it generally mean when someone calls someone else "stupid"?

Google:

AI Overview
When someone calls another person "stupid," it generally means they believe that person is lacking intelligence, is making a foolish decision, or is displaying a lack of common sense, often used as a derogatory term to express disapproval or frustration with someone's actions or ideas.
EXACTLY.

And for the Truly INTELLIGENT ones here, what was CLEARLY NOTICED and NOTED IS, even machines can 'speak' the ABSOLUTE Truth.

Even this machine NEVER states that calling someone 'stupid' IS 'derogatory'.

It is like these posters here were NOT YET AWARE of just HOW MUCH and HOW OFTEN they ended up just backing up, supporting, and PROVING 'my words' here MORE true.
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm Key points about calling someone "stupid":

Negative connotation:
"Stupid" is considered a highly negative insult,indicating a low opinion of someone's mental abilities.
So, are you claiming here that the word 'stupid' HAS TO BE considered a 'highly negative insult'?

Also, I will remind you posters here that when you human beings, collectively and/or individually, have 'grown up' or 'matured' enough, then there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that is 'insulting' BECAUSE WHAT, HOW, and WHY every one of you human beings do is ALREADY KNOWN, and UNDERSTOOD, FULLY.

SEE, it is only the weak or frail of mental ability who get or feel 'insulted'.
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm Condescending:
Using this term often implies that the speaker is judging the other person as intellectually inferior.


AGAIN, the words 'often implies' MEANS NOT 'always meant'.
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm My goodness, little Age, the fact that you don't seem to have the slightest idea of how the terms "LOL" and "STUPID" are generally understood and interpreted by the "...adult human beings in the days when this was written...",...


But, LOL, I have ALWAYS FULLY UNDERSTOOD, EXACTLY, HOW you adult human beings TOOK those words here.

I have just been USING those words to SHOW and PROVE just how OFTEN human beings, in the days when this was being written, would NOT just SEEK OUT and OBTAIN, ACTUAL, CLARITY, FIRST.

Even 'now' this one, STILL, does NOT YET KNOW what LOL means here, EXACTLY.
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm ...seems to indicate that you are the one who is STUPID (i.e., intellectually inferior, displaying a lack of common sense).


Okay.

If this is, still, what you want to see and believe, then this is PERFECTLY FINE and OKAY, with 'me'.

And, I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY, here,.AS WELL.

seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm And just to be clear now, when I refer to you as being "STUPID" as is further defined by the word's following synonyms,...
  • unintelligent
    ignorant
    dense
    brainless
    mindless
    foolish
    dull-witted
    dull
    slow-witted
    witless
    slow
    dunce-like
    simpleminded
    empty-headed
    vacuous
    vapid
    halfwitted
    idiotic
    moronic
    imbecilic
    imbecile
    obtuse
    doltish
    gullible
    naive
    thick
    dim
    dumb
    dopey
    dozy
    crazy
    cretinous
    birdbrained
    peabrained
    pig-ignorant
    bovine
    slow on the uptake
    soft in the head
    brain-dead
    boneheaded
    lamebrained
    thickheaded
    chuckleheaded
    dunderheaded
    wooden
    wooden-headed
    fat-headed
    muttonheaded
    daft
    barmy
    not the full shilling
    thick as two short planks
    silly
    scatterbrained
    crackbrained
    nonsensical
    senseless
    irresponsible
    unthinking
    ill-advised
    ill-considered
    inept
    damfool
    unwise
    injudicious
    indiscreet
    short-sighted
    inane
    absurd
    ludicrous
    ridiculous
    laughable
    risible
    fatuous
    asinine
    pointless
    meaningless
    futile
    fruitless
    mad
    insane
    lunatic
    cracked
    half-baked
    cock-eyed
    harebrained
    nutty
    derpy
    cuckoo
    loony
    loopy
    zany
    screwy
    off one's head
    off one's trolley
    out to lunch
    potty
    dotty
    batty
    gormless
    etc.
...it is in no way meant to be an insult or condescending.


Okay.

But so you become MORE CLEAR you have NEVER been ABLE TO BE insulting NOR condescending. Well not to 'me', anyway
seeds wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:21 pm No, it's just me being too vacuous, asinine, pig-headed, birdbrained and cretinous, etc., to understand what the word "STUPID" actually means in the days when this was written.
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Okay.

But, is the Universe eternal and infinite, eternal or infinite, or was smaller and began?

Which was what the 'INTERPRETING' in this thread WAS about.
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Atla wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:48 pm
Age wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:22 am ONCE AGAIN, NOT A SINGLE WORD USED TO EVEN JUST TRY TO COUNTER NOR REFUTE A WORD THAT I SAID AND WROTE HERE.

Instead, only another attempt to TRY TO RIDICULE, HUMILIATE, and/or DISCREDIT Me.
This scared the shit out of me. It was foretold that as we are nearing the apocalypse, Age will scream in all caps more and more. And finally there will come a day when Age presses the all caps one last time (or rather smashes it with all his/her might, breaking not just the keyboard in two but also the desk under it). And then Age will scream in all caps for a whole week, and then the universe will be destroyed, it will quickly collapse back into a black hole singularity, but not before things will get exponentially painful. I thought there for a second that our time has finally come, whew..

Once again, NOT a word these posters could find to refute NOR counter 'my words'.

But, a lot of word they used to 'try to' discredit 'me' through attempts to make 'the person' 'look foolish'.

Which was all that could be done, by 'BELIEVERS' who had NO ACTUAL PROOF for their BELIEFS.

This one, for example, BELIEFS, ABSOLUTELY, that it, and other human beings, have 'their OWN minds'. But, OBVIOUSLY FAILED, ABSOLUTELY, in being ABLE TO PROVE this.
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Age wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:49 am
Atla wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:48 pm
Age wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:22 am ONCE AGAIN, NOT A SINGLE WORD USED TO EVEN JUST TRY TO COUNTER NOR REFUTE A WORD THAT I SAID AND WROTE HERE.

Instead, only another attempt to TRY TO RIDICULE, HUMILIATE, and/or DISCREDIT Me.
This scared the shit out of me. It was foretold that as we are nearing the apocalypse, Age will scream in all caps more and more. And finally there will come a day when Age presses the all caps one last time (or rather smashes it with all his/her might, breaking not just the keyboard in two but also the desk under it). And then Age will scream in all caps for a whole week, and then the universe will be destroyed, it will quickly collapse back into a black hole singularity, but not before things will get exponentially painful. I thought there for a second that our time has finally come, whew..

Once again, NOT a word these posters could find to refute NOR counter 'my words'.

But, a lot of word they used to 'try to' discredit 'me' through attempts to make 'the person' 'look foolish'.

Which was all that could be done, by 'BELIEVERS' who had NO ACTUAL PROOF for their BELIEFS.

This one, for example, BELIEFS, ABSOLUTELY, that it, and other human beings, have 'their OWN minds'. But, OBVIOUSLY FAILED, ABSOLUTELY, in being ABLE TO PROVE this.
You have no credibility so we don't have to discredit you.
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Age wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:40 am...I keep informing you that things like 'God exists', and that 'God is a male' are believed is because of so-called 'evidence'. The 'earth is flat' and the 'sun revolves around the earth' were also believed true because of 'evidence'.


What you keep MISSING and MISUNDERSTANDING here "will bouwman" EVERY thing you human beings believe is true is because of, so-called, 'evidence'.
As I have consistently said, any story that is compatible with the evidence could be true. The thing is, as time and science progresses, new evidence comes to light that is incompatible with some stories. As Karl Popper put it, some evidence falsifies some stories. That, in a nutshell, is what happened when Galileo looked through his telescope and saw the moons of Jupiter, which falsified the story that everything in the universe revolves around the Earth.
Age wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:40 amAnd, it appears, no matter how many times I have told you that 'evidence' is NOT 'proof' of some thing, you can NOT seem to grasp and accept this Fact.
The problem is you don't understand what proof is. I can prove you are a chugnent bachelor in precisely the same way that you can prove the universe is infinite; it's just assigning particular meanings to particular words, slipping them into a particular formula, and Bob's yer uncle, you have proven something.
Age wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:40 amAbsolutely every BELIEF you human beings want to continue to holed, no matter how False or Wrong it is, like for example, the Universe began, and/or is expanding, you human beings will 'try to' 'justify' by claiming, 'there is evidence'.
What you also don't understand is the range of reasons why people believe things. There's a lot more to it than just evidence, including cultural, historical, geographical and psychological reasons. For instance I suspect the reason you refer to others as "you adult human being" is that your struggle to communicate with adult human beings makes you think you are not one yourself. It must be very lonely being you.
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Anyway, back to the topic of the thread. If you haven't already, please do look at my cartoon book explanation of the big bang, quantum mechanics, relativity, steam engines, internal combustion engines, mechanical clocks, why ice floats and lots more. All comments and suggestions gratefully accepted*:
https://willybouwman.blogspot.com/2024/ ... ation.html

*Well, nearly all.
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Atla wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 2:54 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:49 am
Atla wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:48 pm
This scared the shit out of me. It was foretold that as we are nearing the apocalypse, Age will scream in all caps more and more. And finally there will come a day when Age presses the all caps one last time (or rather smashes it with all his/her might, breaking not just the keyboard in two but also the desk under it). And then Age will scream in all caps for a whole week, and then the universe will be destroyed, it will quickly collapse back into a black hole singularity, but not before things will get exponentially painful. I thought there for a second that our time has finally come, whew..

Once again, NOT a word these posters could find to refute NOR counter 'my words'.

But, a lot of word they used to 'try to' discredit 'me' through attempts to make 'the person' 'look foolish'.

Which was all that could be done, by 'BELIEVERS' who had NO ACTUAL PROOF for their BELIEFS.

This one, for example, BELIEFS, ABSOLUTELY, that it, and other human beings, have 'their OWN minds'. But, OBVIOUSLY FAILED, ABSOLUTELY, in being ABLE TO PROVE this.
You have no credibility so we don't have to discredit you.
Okay, but YET you are NOT CAPABLE of REFUTING, COUNTERING, nor DISCREDITING 'my words', here.

All you have done is make 'personal ATTACKS' against 'me'. And, in the hope that others will not focus on the ACTUAL WORDS that I have been presenting, and which COUNTER and REFUTE some of the BELIEFS and CLAIMS being made here, in this forum.
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Will Bouwman wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:17 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:40 am...I keep informing you that things like 'God exists', and that 'God is a male' are believed is because of so-called 'evidence'. The 'earth is flat' and the 'sun revolves around the earth' were also believed true because of 'evidence'.


What you keep MISSING and MISUNDERSTANDING here "will bouwman" EVERY thing you human beings believe is true is because of, so-called, 'evidence'.
As I have consistently said, any story that is compatible with the evidence could be true.
Are 'you' being an ABSOLUTE or COMPLETE 'idiot' here on purpose?

How many times do you have to be INFORMED that what is called 'evidence', when used by you 'believers', is just another form of 'trying to' 'justify' one's own 'current' position, when you have absolutely NO proof AT ALL.

And, OBVIOUSLY, once the PROOF has been PRESENTED, which SHOWS and REVEALS what the ACTUAL Truth is, exactly, then what WAS ATTEMPTED to be called 'evidence' is PROVED was NOT.

What you are 'trying to' claim here is because there is, still, 'evidence' that the earth is flat and there is,.still, 'evidence' that thar the sun revolves around the earth, this means, IRREFUTABLY, ANY story that is compatible with these 'evidences' could be true. Which is, OBVIOUSLY, just absolutely ludicrous and ridiculous, as well as being just Inaccurate and Incorrect nonsense.
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Will Bouwman wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:17 am The thing is, as time and science progresses, new evidence comes to light that is incompatible with some stories.
It is this kind of ABSOLUTE NONSENSE WHY these people, back then, when this was being written, took SO LONG to CATCH UP.

All this one is doing here is just calling assumptions, guesses, theories, hypothesis, and/or interpretations, 'evidence'.

AGAIN, this one is COMPLETELY BLOCKED here from RECOGNIZING and SEEING just how Truly BACKWARDS is VIEWS ARE, here.

This one is talking about making up stories, FIRST, and then LOOKING.

The issue with 'this, VERY OLD, way' of 'looking' and 'doing' is that, OBVIOUSLY, 'confirmation biases' WILL, literally, 'come into, and play', here.

Besides all of this, this one appears to keep FORGETTING that what it is calling 'evidence' are mostly just INTERPRETATIONS, and, very unfortunately, for those like "will bouwman", they are mostly MISINTERPRETATIONS. Which explains EXACTLY WHY it took them SO, SO, LONG to CATCH UP and ARRIVE AT the ACTUAL One and only, IRREFUTABLE, True and Right Story, AS WELL..
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Will Bouwman wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:17 am As Karl Popper put it, some evidence falsifies some stories. That, in a nutshell, is what happened when Galileo looked through his telescope and saw the moons of Jupiter, which falsified the story that everything in the universe revolves around the Earth.
What Falsified 'that story' WAS PROOF.

Exactly like WHAT Falsified 'the story' that the Universe began, was smaller, and is expanding. The PROOF Falsified 'that story', AS WELL.

What you are completely FAILING to RECOGNIZE and NOTICE here "will bouwman" IS that what you ARE DOING here is EXACTLY what those who CONTINUED to BELIEVE that the sun revolves around the earth EVEN WHEN the ACTUAL PROOF for the OPPOSITE WA BEING PRESENTED.

EXACTLY like you "will bouwman" while they were BELIEVING that they ALREADY knew the truth they could NOT, like you can NOT, SEE and HEAR the PROOF, and thus also the Truth, EVEN WHEN they are BEING PRESENTED In front of them and you, and to them and you.

Literally your beliefs and presumptions will NOT allow you to SEE and HEAR the PROOF and Truth of things, while you are PRESUMING or BELIEVING otherwise.
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Re: The Ealing Interpretation

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Will Bouwman wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:17 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:40 amAnd, it appears, no matter how many times I have told you that 'evidence' is NOT 'proof' of some thing, you can NOT seem to grasp and accept this Fact.
The problem is you don't understand what proof is.
1. you have repeated this a few times ALREADY, now. Although, and AGAIN, WITHOUT a shred of proof.

2. Like with the word 'proof' you also just have and use a DIFFERENT DEFINITION for the 'problem' word than I have and use. WHEN WILL you begin to COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND this Fact?

3.Also do NOT FORGET that it is 'I' who claims to ALREADY HAVE the GUTOE, which IS IRREFUTABLE. And, this is BECAUSE the words and definitions that I have and use FIT IN, PERFECTLY, TOGETHER, illustrating A CRYSTAL CLEAR Picture of ALL THERE IS and/or Everything. Which, AGAIN, NONE of you human beings COULD REFUTE. ow, until you have ARRIVED AT 'this stage' 'I' Wii suggest, to 'you', that it is 'you' who does NOT YET, FULLY, 'understand' things, here.

But, and AGAIN, you are ABSOLUTELY FREE to BELIEVE that is 'I' who has some so-called and alleged 'problem' here.

Now, although I DO ALREADY UNDERSTAND what you people MEAN by the words you say, write, and use here, the FUNNIEST PART here IS, on most occassions you people do NIT even KNoW what you are saying, and meaning.

For example, I could ask you to define how you are defining and using the 'problem' word here, EXACTLY, and how that FITS IN WITH the other definitions and words that you use here? And, if I did, then you would PROVE, for me, that you could NOT explain. And, this is BECAUSE you, ACTUALLY, do NOT even KNOW "yourself".




Will Bouwman wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:17 am I can prove you are a chugnent bachelor in precisely the same way that you can prove the universe is infinite.
I HAVE ALREADY REFUTED THIS CLAIM OF YOURS HERE.

However, and ONCE AGAIN you are TOO BLIND, DEAF, and STUPID to SEE, HEAR, and RECOGNIZE this
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