The Black Widow Case

Discussion of articles that appear in the magazine.

Moderators: AMod, iMod

Locked
Philosophy Now
Posts: 1330
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:49 am

The Black Widow Case

Post by Philosophy Now »

Dave Hangman on a crucial lawsuit taking place the day after tomorrow.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/163/The_Black_Widow_Case
Gary Childress
Posts: 11744
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:08 pm
Location: It's my fault

Re: The Black Widow Case

Post by Gary Childress »

Questions For Consideration
1. Even today, software makes many decisions that influence our beliefs and behaviors and change our lives – related to engine flow regulators, air conditioning temperatures, which news and advertising we see, and so on. If those programs act within their instruction set in a way that causes harm, should it be deemed an accident, or a programmed choice?
The "information age" raises some scarry questions. If it is the case that AI can change our own thoughts and behaviors just by streaming information to us, in what sense are we programming ourselves? And what happens if there is a mistake that causes enormous consequences one way or another.

The world and all of us with it may be becoming a giant computer. On the upside, it might be the only thing that will survive a global climate catastrophe. On the downside, what if we humans are just a footnote in the history of intelligence on Earth.
Gary Childress
Posts: 11744
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:08 pm
Location: It's my fault

Re: The Black Widow Case

Post by Gary Childress »

If it should be the case that we are in the process of creating an AI world that will essentially eliminate free will, turning us all into Pavlovian subjects acting on information that is basically fed to us through algorithms, how different is that from any other time in history when we've more or less acted on impartial or imperfect information?

It seems to me that the only sensible approach to the world is to treat EVERYTHING with skepticism, treat everything with the possibility that we may be misinformed or being misled by information. Let our instincts be our guide instead of being led along like drones being fed instructions.

Thoughts?
Dubious
Posts: 4637
Joined: Tue May 19, 2015 7:40 am

Re: The Black Widow Case

Post by Dubious »

Gary Childress wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:04 am
It seems to me that the only sensible approach to the world is to treat EVERYTHING with skepticism, treat everything with the possibility that we may be misinformed or being misled by information. Let our instincts be our guide instead of being led along like drones being fed instructions.

Thoughts?
Truth amounts to nothing more than having its certainty validated within a probability index. Instinct itself is only an approximation and only required when we have nothing else to go on.
Gary Childress
Posts: 11744
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:08 pm
Location: It's my fault

Re: The Black Widow Case

Post by Gary Childress »

Dubious wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:43 am
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:04 am
It seems to me that the only sensible approach to the world is to treat EVERYTHING with skepticism, treat everything with the possibility that we may be misinformed or being misled by information. Let our instincts be our guide instead of being led along like drones being fed instructions.

Thoughts?
Truth amounts to nothing more than having its certainty validated within a probability index. Instinct itself is only an approximation and only required when we have nothing else to go on.
Well, with all the misinformation floating around, it seems like we are pretty much doomed to use our instinctive "approximations".
Dubious
Posts: 4637
Joined: Tue May 19, 2015 7:40 am

Re: The Black Widow Case

Post by Dubious »

Gary Childress wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:50 pm
Dubious wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:43 am
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:04 am
It seems to me that the only sensible approach to the world is to treat EVERYTHING with skepticism, treat everything with the possibility that we may be misinformed or being misled by information. Let our instincts be our guide instead of being led along like drones being fed instructions.

Thoughts?
Truth amounts to nothing more than having its certainty validated within a probability index. Instinct itself is only an approximation and only required when we have nothing else to go on.
Well, with all the misinformation floating around, it seems like we are pretty much doomed to use our instinctive "approximations".
Use whatever you like; with all the unbelievable crap going on in the U.S., it won't be long before American will become synonymous with morbidly stupid.
Gary Childress
Posts: 11744
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:08 pm
Location: It's my fault

Re: The Black Widow Case

Post by Gary Childress »

Dubious wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:36 am
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:50 pm
Dubious wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:43 am

Truth amounts to nothing more than having its certainty validated within a probability index. Instinct itself is only an approximation and only required when we have nothing else to go on.
Well, with all the misinformation floating around, it seems like we are pretty much doomed to use our instinctive "approximations".
Use whatever you like; with all the unbelievable crap going on in the U.S., it won't be long before American will become synonymous with morbidly stupid.
It already is.
Locked