Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:09 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:40 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:30 pm
Yes they are conditional only by definition of the word conditional, but to even know what conditional means the conditional would have to be unconditional so as to be able to make a comparison.
Now it seems you're only playing word-games, and with nothing at stake. I'll forgo further comment on that, therefore.
Seriously I just give up. This is pure torture.
I'm so done with this BS
IC, just leave me. I don't want you to stay with with me anymore. It's nothing personal you understand, it's just that we seem to have a huge language barrier you and I and that doesn't look like it will ever change any time soon. I'm not even interested any more in trying to reconcile with you about anything to do with the subject of God that we can both agree on. It seems we are living on two different planets. And the gaping big gap between both our unique understandings of what we are each trying in vain to show each other seems to be getting wider and wider, looking almost like it will never close ever, even if it had an infinitely eternal amount of time in which to close. It's obvious it's never going to happen. So be it. I'm done, my work is done. It is finished.
Yes, playing word games confuses reality with imagination. Just because the word “unconditional,” exists, does not mean that the condition of unconditional exists, although there is evidence that it does exist in the conceptual, dualistic, and limited interpretation of events.
Just because the words dark energy and dark matter exist does not make it true, although there is scientific evidence that it is true, and there is evidence in the conceptual, dualistic interpretation of events.
For most of human kind, just because the concept of human flight existed did not make such a notion true or possible, and now there is empirical evidence that it is possible.
To be understood, unconditional love must be unconditionally understood, i.e., accepted by faith as true.
For example, to understand why God loves even the denizens of Sodom and Gomorrah is to understand why a loving God would allow a body to be harmed, even to the extent that it begins the process of returning to its constituent elements within the cycle of life. Understanding of unconditional love is usually conditioned by conceptual, dualistic Notions of Nice, which is perfectly natural.
Imagining oneself as one who loves Unconditionally is to seek God-like justification for any action, however that requires God-like perspective which for human beans places Ego before God in the ordering of dualistic worship.
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