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[attofishpi]

But, I would like to remind the posters here that this is a 'philosophy forum' and not a 'debating forum'.

A forum where philosophical ideas are presented are usually presented to be scrutinised and yes, debated upon.

Scrutinize, question, and/or challenge another's ideas is perfectly normal and done in philosophical discussions. However picking "a side", and/or holding onto a belief or position, and fighting for that position, belief, or side, only, is the very opposite of what philosophical discussions actually are. Well to me anyway.

But, if you want to believe that your ideas or views are absolutely true, right, accurate, or correct, then by all means you can 'debate' them, with others, who are also 'believing' that their different or opposing ideas or views are also true, right, accurate, or correct. But obviously if you are both believing two opposing or contradictory views are correct, and you cannot just proved this, then what you both are believing may not have been correct, from the beginning.

I don't want to debate this with you, after all it's a philosophy forum.

[BuzzCap7]

I certainly would question the purpose of 'debating' some thing here. For, obviously, if what it wants to present has been proved, and thus is True, Right, Accurate, and/or Correct, then just present the proof for such. But, if it wants to just find someone with an opposing view or belief, and wants to 'argue', from one of the opposing definitions of 'that word', then enjoy doing so. But, I would like to remind the posters here that this is a 'philosophy forum' and not a 'debating forum'.

Points well made.

By the way just because someone thinks they are right about some thing, then this never absolutely means the less likely that they are to be right. Sure, there are many upon many of you adult human beings who think you are right, or who might come across as though they think they are right, who had been actually Right all along.

Yes.

The point was in intensity. If someone is super firm, hard and fast, without question, steel solid strong about an point or opinion they have, they can very well be wrong. Of course we are never really talking in the absolute for there are few things that fall into that category. We are talking about the intent. The general feeling or understanding.

Like my friend, how often has someone said something to find out later they were indeed wrong.

Presuming one is 'not right' because they appear to come across as thinking that they 'are right' can all to simply and easily lead you into a False conclusion, with you maybe never ever finding out if 'that one' was actually Right, or not.

YES!!! That is it!! LOL!!

I am sure we have all done this to some degree.

How many people claim they are going to marry the love of their life, their soulmate, until death do us part........and wind up getting a divorce.

Age, follow this.......... say YOU have a crystal ball that is right 100% of the time.
A couple are going to get married who are madly, madly, madly in love with one another.
You Age, look into your crystal ball and it says, they will have 1 child in 2 years, a little girl then by year 6 of their marriage, they will be getting a divorce.

Then you share that information with the couple about to get married. (But you are right Age.) What do you think the couple who are going to get married will think? Likely you are totally wrong.

Point being, the couple unaware are wrong. And will find out later, they were wrong.

Nothing (mostly) is 100% certain.

The 2 people that went into space to the ISS were supposed to come back in what? 8 days or something. Now it is 8+ months before they can come back or whatever it is. Again, point being, most everything is unknown.

I have found, the arrogant, the know it all, the stubborn I AM RIGHT........LA LA LA LA LA LA I don't want to listen to you. <-- These 100% steel certain people do not want to admit they could be wrong. Possibly due to a self image that needs strengthening.

All decision that are made, could (could) be wrong.

Mark

[Age]

I certainly would question the purpose of 'debating' some thing here. For, obviously, if what it wants to present has been proved, and thus is True, Right, Accurate, and/or Correct, then just present the proof for such. But, if it wants to just find someone with an opposing view or belief, and wants to 'argue', from one of the opposing definitions of 'that word', then enjoy doing so. But, I would like to remind the posters here that this is a 'philosophy forum' and not a 'debating forum'.

Points well made.

By the way just because someone thinks they are right about some thing, then this never absolutely means the less likely that they are to be right. Sure, there are many upon many of you adult human beings who think you are right, or who might come across as though they think they are right, who had been actually Right all along.

Yes.

The point was in intensity. If someone is super firm, hard and fast, without question, steel solid strong about an point or opinion they have, they can very well be wrong. Of course we are never really talking in the absolute for there are few things that fall into that category. We are talking about the intent. The general feeling or understanding.

Like my friend, how often has someone said something to find out later they were indeed wrong.

Presuming one is 'not right' because they appear to come across as thinking that they 'are right' can all to simply and easily lead you into a False conclusion, with you maybe never ever finding out if 'that one' was actually Right, or not.

YES!!! That is it!! LOL!!

I am sure we have all done this to some degree.

How many people claim they are going to marry the love of their life, their soulmate, until death do us part........and wind up getting a divorce.

Age, follow this.......... say YOU have a crystal ball that is right 100% of the time.
A couple are going to get married who are madly, madly, madly in love with one another.
You Age, look into your crystal ball and it says, they will have 1 child in 2 years, a little girl then by year 6 of their marriage, they will be getting a divorce.

Then you share that information with the couple about to get married. (But you are right Age.) What do you think the couple who are going to get married will think? Likely you are totally wrong.

Point being, the couple unaware are wrong. And will find out later, they were wrong.

Nothing (mostly) is 100% certain.

The 2 people that went into space to the ISS were supposed to come back in what? 8 days or something. Now it is 8+ months before they can come back or whatever it is. Again, point being, most everything is unknown.

1. you are talking about things, in the future, which are, relatively, unknown. I was not talking about things in the future.

2. What you mentioned and talked about here is absolutely known. That is no one knows, for sure, when those two will come back. So, the actual absolute Truth is no one knows, with certainty, when, or if, those two will return.

However, obviously one can know things, from the past. Which are only known, for sure, when proof has already been gathered, and obtained.

I have found, the arrogant, the know it all, the stubborn I AM RIGHT........LA LA LA LA LA LA I don't want to listen to you. <-- These 100% steel certain people do not want to admit they could be wrong. Possibly due to a self image that needs strengthening.

From 'the past', and 'the proof', one 'knew' that the earth revolves around the sun, for example, although absolutely everyone else might have well been believing otherwise. If you were 'back then', then would you have also called 'that one' 'arrogant', 'a know it all', and/or even 'stubborn'?

If yes, then there is absolutely nothing wrong when knowing, what you know, and are, stubbornly, expressing 'what is known', to others.

This person was a so-called '100% steel certain person', and did not want to admit that they could be wrong, because it 'knew' what was right, because they already had 'the proof'.

Any belief of yours about that person possibly having some self-image that needed strengthening might all be within you, only.

All decision that are made, could (could) be wrong.

Mark

Not when all decisions are made up on 'actual proof'.

Now, of course, and obviously, there are quite a number of you human beings who 'claim to know things', when in Truth they actually do not. This phenomena can be seen, and proved True, many, many times throughout this forum. But, and just as obvious, is the irrefutable Fact that not always when someone claims to know some thing they are wrong.

[accelafine]

Perhaps he likes debating? What's it to you?

it appears you missed the point.



1. People rarely respond to intro's? So. That means nothing to me. Also, I am certainly not one who follows the cow in front of me.

2. Bots. accelafine, bot's are screened out the best the admin can do that. And if it not a bot?

3. Spring boarding off, "And if it is not a bot?" from question #2 above, if the post is not a bot, then they get a warm welcome from me. (I hope warm.) And maybe that poster will become a good participante here knowing there are people (or at least 1 person) here interested in them. And if we get even 1 quality addition for every say 10 newbee posts (bots getting through or not) that would be good for the forum.

Mark

Well 'you' certanly missed the point. And you hardly gave him a 'warm welcome', or perhaps it's just a lack of English skills that caused you to come across as so rude. The rest is indecipherable.
It was actually the first comment of yours I've ever read. I tend to avoid members who insist on 'signing' every comment they make. It invariably indicates a crashing bore with OCD and other mental problems.