A recent "MIRACLE"

[accelafine]

Sure bahman - it's doubt like that which reminds me of Atla's insistence that I must have been confused that I was dreaming rather than what actually happened at work over a few days some years ago. Seems some people are so insistant that God does not exist that they find more ludicrous explanations to support their faith in atheism

Right. According to Occam's razor it's far more likely that 'god' is sending you funny little 'miracles' in the form of tool boxes that change their contents (he's such a hoot) than that you actually do have schizophrenia (as diagnosed by a psychiatrist) and which you have said you have on multiple occasions, hence the fact that you can spend all day every day kayaking with your VR, presumably living off some kind of sickness benefit.
Why don't you ask your godfriend to do something useful, and cure you of your psychosis (or send you a tool box with real tools)?

Besides, just that fact that you are so insistent on the 'reality' of your delusions is proof in itself of your seriously unwell mental state. Why TF would any 'god' want to be bothered talking to you?

My word you are a bitter, miserable old slag. Your life must suck arse

Like I didn't have a toolbox full of strange bits and bobs all made of metal - and then my uncle (who I have a laugh with about how wacky God is with this convoluted REAL_IT_Y with me) comes over and I open it and now it's ALL plastic bits and bobs!! - - WOW - I must be confused\psychotic - for certainly the contents must have been plastic crap all along!!

..yeah God doesn't exist - he could never turn water into wine.

Go take a flying leap you offensive insane twat.

[attofishpi]

Go take a flying leap you offensive insane twat.

You're always going on about all the psychotic freaks walking the streets around you.

Maybe you should have worked harder in life so that you didn't have to live in a meth ghetto?

[accelafine]

Go take a flying leap you offensive insane twat.

You're always going on about all the psychotic freaks walking the streets around you.

Maybe you should have worked harder in life so that you didn't have to live in a meth ghetto?

You..I mean 'they'.. are everywhere now, athough you probably wouldn't notice because insanity is normal to you. Lunatic asylums closed down all over the Western world. Gee. I wonder why that was??

[accelafine]

[attofishpi]

Go take a flying leap you offensive insane twat.

You're always going on about all the psychotic freaks walking the streets around you.

Maybe you should have worked harder in life so that you didn't have to live in a meth ghetto?

You..I mean 'they'.. are everywhere now, athough you probably wouldn't notice because insanity is normal to you. Lunatic asylums closed down all over the Western world. Gee. I wonder why that was??

Mmm probably because the UNI spawned "professional" morons that think they comprehend the human psyche of geniuses such as me as a mere psychotic imbalance are starting to real eyes - -- - - they know shite in comparison to our self analysis.

They had a revolving door of shrinks for me to go through - once I got what I wanted out of them (a wad load of cash) I told them I didn't need them anymore. I will never forget the look on this fat very young shrinks face as she rocked in a 'defenceless' mode with her plump hands between her legs stating "I think we really should do another follow up in two months and see how you are tracking" - talking to be like I am an imbecile child - fucking moron - I said NO THANKS - I GOT WHAT I WANT OUT OF YOU SHRINKS----AND----THANKS VERY MUCH - C YA!!

I mean that shrink in particular - had no idea of physics concepts when I spoke of God, no idea of David Chalmers - one of the foremost intellectuals on the study\comprehension of consciousness - ya know - something this woman should have some knowledge of - they (shrinks) are pathetic -just another job to shoot pharmaceutical pills down the throats of the naive - since that is ALL they are on average - a couple of the shrinks had open minds - but this one in particular - an atheist was dumb as fuck.

[Atla]

Sure bahman - it's doubt like that which reminds me of Atla's insistence that I must have been confused that I was dreaming rather than what actually happened at work over a few days some years ago. Seems some people are so insistant that God does not exist that they find more ludicrous explanations to support their faith in atheism

Like I hinted before, I'm almost offended by how utterly bog-standard your psychosis is. Like I listen to it for 3 seconds and say yeah that sounds exactly like a textbook psychotic break. The exact same kind of hallucinations as usual, the exact same kind of finding hidden meanings in words as usual, the exact same kind of denial and unawareness as usual, the exact same kind of belief as usual that you are playing the system and keep dodging what 'they' want and that it's all about you.

Do you have any idea how tedious that is? Jesus Christ man come up with something new. Be original, be different. Make it hard for us to figure it out. Have more interesting hallucinations and quirks. At least throw out the gay dude God that's making your reality a hell and replace it with a Goddess. Would be much better for you, why are you so cruel to yourself.

[Iwannaplato]

My Uncle 11 years my senior has been over from England, looking after my Dad who lives an hour south of me. (my deceased mothers brother)

He is hilarious (like me ) and we have a lot of laughs together. He is a plumber - kinda retired.

Anyway, he's pretty good at spotting what things are - like I found a packed full of weird things in my glovebox and straight away he said its fittings for windsceen wipers.

Now, I can tell anything to my uncle - and he's an atheist but is very open to ideas - just wants da evidence for himself to witness.

So last year I was walking my dog and where I crossed a busy road there was a Trojan toolbox in the gutter - clearly had fallen off the back of a truck. I picked it up and placed it on the footpath in case the owner came back looking for it. I decided if it was still there when I returned from my walk I'd claim it - it was so I took it home and inspected the contents. Inside were all these metal really weird shaped things and I had no idea what they were for - probably attachments for something. - ALL METAL.

So a couple of weeks ago I had mentioned the toolbox to my uncle and was interested to see if he would work out what the contents were for. When he came over I opened the box - well - God\sages had swithced ALL the contents to PLASTIC pieces!!

Many nozzles that looked like they were for garden sprinkler systems - and I am laughing with my uncle saying "this is bollocks - this is not the original contents of the toolbox - the fittings were all metal!"

Thing is, I've been trying to convince my uncle of the God thang - even tried getting them (sages) to do some of the stuff to him like that were doing to me over the years, but alas he says nada has happened.

With further investigation turns out these NOW plastic components/fittings are for solar systems electrical connections.

I also told him about a large blue plastic barrel in my tool shed that was filled with pellets - fertiliser or something, maybe used for the hydro weed the previous owners were growing. One day I was thinking what I was going to do with that v large tub and its contents - I went into the shed, and it (barrel) was completely empty!!

Let's black box the truth of this story for a second. I mean, let's not focus for a moment on whether your interpretation and perceptions are true or not. You have this experience. You tell people in this particular forum about your experience and your interpretations. You have to know how at least some people are going to react. You have to know this. Yet, you put it here. Is there something useful about have the really quite easily predictable experience posting this here with inevitably elicit? What do you get out of this? What did you think you would or tell yourself you would`? You may have done it impulsively, but if you reflect now on that, what conclusions do you reach about what you are (actually?) doing and why?

1) I don't have a particular theory about this myself.
2) I am not finding a coy or sneaky way of implying you didn't experience what you say nor that your interpretation is incorrect.

It's a straight up question. We can even go beyond the black box gedankenexperiment. Let's assume you are correct in your interpretation of what happened. Why post it here?

[attofishpi]

Sure bahman - it's doubt like that which reminds me of Atla's insistence that I must have been confused that I was dreaming rather than what actually happened at work over a few days some years ago. Seems some people are so insistant that God does not exist that they find more ludicrous explanations to support their faith in atheism

Like I hinted before, I'm almost offended by how utterly bog-standard your psychosis is. Like I listen to it for 3 seconds and say yeah that sounds exactly like a textbook psychotic break. The exact same kind of hallucinations as usual, the exact same kind of finding hidden meanings in words as usual, the exact same kind of denial and unawareness as usual, the exact same kind of belief as usual that you are playing the system and keep dodging what 'they' want and that it's all about you.

Do you have any idea how tedious that is? Jesus Christ man come up with something new. Be original, be different. Make it hard for us to figure it out. Have more interesting hallucinations and quirks. At least throw out the gay dude God that's making your reality a hell and replace it with a Goddess. Would be much better for you, why are you so cruel to yourself.

You belittle me with "bog standard psychosis"..and admit to listening to a mere "3 seconds" - you haven't delved into shite of what I am talking about.

I have never "hallucinated" beyond God providing a reasonable reason prior as to what then followed when IT projected - a 'hallucination'

Seriously though, do you honestly believe there is nothing beyond the bricks and mortar makeup of the reality that you perceive?

Is it truly such a leap to consider that there may indeed be an intelligence, a God, capable of portraying anything to those 5 sensory inputs to your consciousness? My theory is that God is the dark eneygy\matter operating below the perceivable planck scale.

PS. I ate from the Tree of Know_LEDGE (fruit of good and evil) and endured far more of the EVIL side of God - that now I have learned ALL I can from it without facing a fate worse than death - thus - will never return to it.

PPS. I am nearly in heaven (mode).

[attofishpi]

It's a straight up question. We can even go beyond the black box gedankenexperiment. Let's assume you are correct in your interpretation of what happened. Why post it here?

I analyse minds - I bounce my ideas off of others and see what their analysis comes up with.

Certainly, of course, I'd like to persuade those that have an open mind and are actually going to spend more than Atlas' three seconds to comprehend that I am not BOG STANDARD.




...also, if there is a God that permeates ALL matter - do you and others interested in God, want to comprehend it?

[Iwannaplato]

It's a straight up question. We can even go beyond the black box gedankenexperiment. Let's assume you are correct in your interpretation of what happened. Why post it here?

I analyse minds - I bounce my ideas off of others and see what their analysis comes up with.

OK, well, if you're getting something you want out of the responses above, I can understand in an abstract way the choice to post it.

[attofishpi]

It's a straight up question. We can even go beyond the black box gedankenexperiment. Let's assume you are correct in your interpretation of what happened. Why post it here?

I analyse minds - I bounce my ideas off of others and see what their analysis comes up with.

OK, well, if you're getting something you want out of the responses above, I can understand in an abstract way the choice to post it.

Oh, but you know I am not. I am getting a skim of the surface and pigeon holed to suit people's preconceived ideas about REAL_IT_Y.

If someone was truly willing to delve in, fathom the depths where fathoming of what I am talking about and apply their intelligence - well, then we may get somewhere.

[accelafine]

The insane are such tediious bloody bores. They all think they are 'geniuses' (at what exactly?), or someone like Napoleon or Jesus or some such. Never an ordinary plumber or anything.

Change the record fishy. Your 'discussions' with 'god' mean exactly squat to anyone on here. Unless you have an actual video or recording of the event (verified by several experts) then for pity's sake just stfu about it.

[attofishpi]

..pretty certain you with your insatiable misery are on a path for suicide. There were times I thought you had the intellect for more, but alas ---the great gurgler of life awaits silly miserable hateful slags as U.

[Iwannaplato]

Oh, but you know I am not.

I wouldn't say I know you are not. I find it hard to imagine you're getting what you want, but then I don't know what you want or why, really.

I am getting a skim of the surface and pigeon holed to suit people's preconceived ideas about REAL_IT_Y.

Which is pretty predicatable. Hence my questions.

If someone was truly willing to delve in, fathom the depths where fathoming of what I am talking about and apply their intelligence - well, then we may get somewhere.

Well, you have Bahman who already believes in such phenomena and then you have skeptics who question your insanity. Other people might be interested but then, all they can really get is a story about an anomaly or something you think is one. They can't get at the actual experience. They can't have it through your description. So, we have a story with an interpretation. There's not much they can actually do with that, open mind, potentially open mind, closed mind....regardless.

[accelafine]

..pretty certain you with your insatiable misery are on a path for suicide. There were times I thought you had the intellect for more, but alas ---the great gurgler of life awaits silly miserable hateful slags as U.

I'm sorry the truth hurts. What do you want me to do, affirm your delusions, tell you you are genius? Fuck that. I notice you don't call any of the males on here 'old wizened up viagra-soaked porn addicts'. In fact you don't insult them at all, even when they say pretty much the same thing.