Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:51 am
Obviously you did not. But, what is just as obvious is 'the answer' to the question you asked above here. Absolutely every one knew 'the answer' to your clarifying question, including even 'you' "iwannaplato". So, what the real motive and reason was for, and behind, you asking such the question that you did some of 'us' can 'see' very clearly, while others, including even 'you' might not yet know.
Oh, yes, you are so right. Everyone when talking with Age and everyone here can just assume that the other people acknowledge obvious truths, right.
you two sentences here do not appear, to me, to align nor correlate with each other.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
It's not like people who come to PN often have very unique viewpoints, including disagreements over what is obvious.
Why do you say and believe this here?
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
Age, for example, can assume that other people all notice the irrefutable and obvious truths all around them.
On the contrary.
Once again, this one proceeds to make an assumption, makes conclusions, based on that assumption/s, and then continues on as though its own made up assumption is true and correct. Which is why this one ends up so completely astray here.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
He need never ask about that, because they all know the obvious things he knows.
Obviously this one has not been reading, and comprehending, what I have actually been saying, and meaning, here.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
I mean, seriously.
Again, this one believes that its own made up assumption, and unverified conclusion, is true, right, accurate, and correct. When its believed conclusion could be further from the actual Truth of things.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
What an idiot you are being.
Okay, if you say and believe so.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
What tiny knowledge you have of the context.
This one, obviously, had not yet considered that what it assumed and concluded could be Wrong in any way at all.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
Of course, I cannot always assume that even the most obvious things are agreedo on by other people here.
Obviously, you have completely and utterly, once again, missed the actual point that I was making above here.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
And that is your experience also. But this all goes out the window if you have an opportunity to be critical. What an idiot. An idiot who whines that other people make assumptions, over and over, but when someone careful does not assume and asks a clarifying question, just in case, now this is used as an excuse to bash.
you, obviously, have still missed the difference between what are irrefutable assumptions from refutable assumptions, and how 'we' can 'know' 'the difference'.
But, you do have a very, very strong tendency to miss out on a lot of things that I say and point out here anyway.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
An idiot who claims all sorts of things are obvious and irrefutable and yet 'knows' that many people miss these things, get all judgmental when someone else does not assume there is agreement over obvious things.
It appears that you have, once again, ended up just confusing "your" own 'self' here.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
Is this an ego thing?
How dare someone need to ask me, the great Age, a question with an obvious answer.
If you, at your age, need to ask another 'a question', which you know that there is not a human being who would provide a different answer to, and that this is been, relatively, the only time you do not make 'an assumption', all while you want to keep calling 'me' 'the idiot', then so be it.
Just as obvious is the fact that different people 'look at' and 'see' things differently. As you are clearly showing here.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
He must have some horrible motive or be a moron.
Again, if you say and believe so, then this must be so, right?
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
As if Age has no memory of interactions he has with others and the incredible range of opinions about even basic things.
It is amazing how smart people can be such idiots. You've painted yourself into a tiny portion of what it is to be human and you oddly confuse this with infinite space and knowledge.
you appear to have gone so far 'off track' here I am not sure how to bring you 'back on'.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
Hypocrite.
Oh, you don't ask clarifying questions and you assume things, you bad little human, this is why the world is so fucked up back then. Then two minutes later,
oh you asked a stupid clarifying question you should have assumed that I get all obvious things right and everyone shares these obviously correct beliefs and there's nothing unique about my positions so there's never a reason to check, how dare you, idiot.
Are you feeling okay here?
you appear to be what you people, back then, would say, 'loosing it', here.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
But you simply cannot get such an overview. You can only remember the most recent sentence. You can manage to carry grudges over time, but you can't seem to have the slightest awareness of how you are coming across and how you previous actions inform the way people respond to you. It took months to get you to elininate your idiotic formatting and the tireless efforts of Atla to torture you with your own idiocy.
LOL
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Are you, still, holding onto this belief here.
Here 'we' have another prime example of how and when one is believing some thing to be true, they are, literally, not able to hear, see, comprehend, understand, nor even just 'recognize' what the actual Truth is, exactly.
This one, still, has absolutely no idea nor clue as to why I just stopped using capital letters, as much as I was, although this one has been informed of the absolute actual Truth numerous times already.
This one is living proof of just how damaging beliefs can be and are to the human population.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
That's how slow a learner you were. But that you can be read, the consistent subtler idiocies simply drive most people to ignore. Fortunately or unfortunately, I am curious about certain kinds of minds and how they delude themselves or fail to communicate.
But, as you have been informed already, there are no 'certain kinds of minds'.
There is only One Mind.
But, please feel free to express 'your own personal beliefs' here. As doing so is proving what I will be revealing absolutely True, Right, Accurate, and Correct.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
But it seems your days of learning are over.
LOL
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What do you even think I 'learned' here?
If it is what you said and wrote above, then you are far more delusional than you were coming across previously.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
'This one' is absolutely 'free' to 'view' absolutely any thing any way it likes.
Who could Age possibly think doesn't know this already. Certainly not accelefine whose post this was written as part of a response. And yet, Age writes it. So, what is Age actually saying when he writes this.
It is like this one is not able to read, and comprehend, 'in context'. If it did, then it would not have 'wondered' what it did here.
Now, of course, "iwannaplato" might have just read that one sentence, quickly made an assumption, jumped to a conclusion, which it then may or may not have believed to be absolutely true, and then proceeded to say and write what it did here.
Or, "iwannaplato" may have actually not been able to relate the direct following sentence with the one that it quoted here, and thus why this one started to 'wonder' what it did here.
Or, "iwannaplato" could just be doing what it does quite frequently, which is trying to use what I say and point out about it, against me. Which, as can be clearly seen, is not a very good tactic as it rarely ever words, if ever.
Now, to put things in context here, this is what I actually said and wrote:
'This one' is absolutely 'free' to 'view' absolutely any thing any way it likes. But, obviously, how 'this one', personally, 'views' some thing in no way makes 'its view' True, Right, Accurate, nor Correct. Nor even being remotely close to being True, Right, Accurate, nor Correct.
So, as can be clearly seen here I was pointing out that one can do what is obviously absolutely obvious, but doing so will never make what that one is doing necessarily True, Right, Accurate, nor Correct.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
Above he is so judgmental of asking a question with an obvious answer,
What do you mean by 'so judgmental', exactly?
you appear to be holding a view and/or definition of a word here, which, obviously, not all agree with and accept.
Also, just pointing out a Fact of what another does is never necessarily being 'judgmental' at all, let alone of being 'so judgmental', and especially so in the only way that you appear to be viewing the 'judgmental' word here.
But, again, until you are open and hones here, then what the actual Truth is, exactly, will remain to be be 'seen'.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
but here he writes a statement that is obviously not necessary to say.
But, there has not been a word, let alone a statement, that you have written, anywhere, which was necessary to say.
So, what are you doing this for, exactly?
Also, and once more, if you do not add all of what I actually said and wrote, then, as you are proving absolutely True, it is so very easy and simple for you to take what I said, and meant, out of context, while also trying to deceive others, in 'the way' you appear to have fooled "your" own 'self' here.
Are you asking this to any one, in particular?
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
I know exactly why I asked Age, in particular, a question where the answer is, to most people, obvious.
Okay. So, why, exactly, why did you ask me, in particular a question where 'the answer' is, to most people, obvious?
And, will 'this answer' provide 'an answer' to 'why' I said and wrote what I did above here, to someone in another thread?
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
Does Age know what he is actually saying, about himself, and interpersonally, when he says something that actually does not need to be said?
I do not recall, actually, saying any thing at all about what you call "himself".
If you believe that I did, then will you provide a link to that particular post, sentence, or words?
If no, then why not?
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:34 am
Can he look at this and notice that he actually has a non-literal message here. He is actually not telling the other person they are free to view things, etc. A moment's mulling would lead to the obvious conclusion that we all know that, including accelefine. So, what is Age actually saying? And why doesn't he want to say this directly?
Again, 'we' wait, to 'find out', and, hopefully, 'see'.
This has 'now' become very intriguing. Well for some of 'us' anyway.
So, so far, I have, supposedly;
1. Provided a non-literal message here, (somewhere).
2. Not been telling another that they are free to view things. (Although I did say and write the complete opposite thing.)
3. Provided a so-claimed 'obvious conclusion', which 'we' all 'know'. (I wonder if the 'we' includes 'me' or not.)
Now, for the 'intriguing' part, so what have i, actually, been 'saying', above here, which, it sounds like, this one believes 'we' all already 'know'?
And, 'I' wonder how many of 'you' 'know' the very reason/s why I do not say what I want to say, directly?
See, 'I' could tell 'you' all 'why', that is if 'I' only 'knew' what 'this one' is even going on about, here now.
Now, if "iwannaplato" informs 'us' of what it is 'actually referring to' here, and why it does not just say, directly, what it is alluding to, exactly, then 'I' might, also, find out what the so-called 'obvious conclusion' is, which it, and all of 'you', supposedly, already 'know', and find out if whether why it does not want to say here directly is the exact same reason, or not, for why I, supposedly, do not want to say, directly, as well.
But, going on past experiences I think 'we' will ever get to 'find out' what 'it' is that "iwannoplato" is, once again, just alluding to but will not just directly 'say'.