"atheist" equals "theist"

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Re: "atheist" equals "theist"

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This might clear up your confusion.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:54 am
Age wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:15 am Of course.

Do you believe that the effects of fear would not be 'absolutely debilitating' in stopping one from doing that one thing and/or from other things?
In nearly all cases, no it would not be. Or no one would be doing anything. But, nice vague contextless question.

This one, once again, is 'trying' its absolute hardest to 'try to' 'justify' its obviously 'unjustifiable' misinterpretation here.
More mind reading attempts with more silly uses of 'absolutely'.
Now, obviously one with an 'absolutely debilitating fear', which is stopping them from doing one thing, only, would not simply be stopped from performing something else, entirely. Which is the 'misinterpretation' this one first took, but which is now, desperately, 'trying to' deflect away from, here, and on to some other thing else, here.
Go back to what you originally said and you will that you are rewriting history for your own convenience.
Iwannaplato wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:16 pm Even describing that as a debilitating fear would be a stretch. But an absolutely debilitating fear would have global effects in a person.
What a Truly weird, nonsensical, and irrational belief and/or claim to have and to make here.

Obviously, some human beings are not able to do some thing or things because of an 'absolutely debilitating fear' over or for that 'thing/s', which is 'self-explanatory' to most.
Same rewriting of history, adding in specific that were not there. Nice argument from incredulity.
This 'fear', which 'debilitates', absolutely, is sometimes also known as an 'irrational fear'. But, if 'any fear' stops one from doing some thing, like for example, being open and honest in answering a clarifying question, because of 'some, irrational fear', then process, or non process, as 'absolutely debilitating'.
It makes no literal sense. And we know how much you have distaste for the tropic.
I am not sure what seems to be the 'actual issue' here, again, with this one, this time.
Finally, he is unsure of something.
He knows I didn't do what he wanted me to do because of fear. (there could not be, in his mind, other motives, for examples ones pointed out by a number of posters, for not responding the way he prefers)
He knows that this fear is absolutely debilitating.
He knows that I am 'trying' my absolutely hardest to...etc.
But finally he can admit he doesn't know something.

If only some human beings back in the day this was written could have managed not to pretend that were psychic.
As 'we' can see here again there is now more deflection, and lies.

But "atheists" and "theists" are, still, both equally prevented and stopped from seeing the actual and irrefutable Truth, which is before them here.
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Re: "atheist" equals "theist"

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Age wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:54 pm
accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:41 pm 'God' with a capital 'G' is a character in a book,
To you maybe.

To some others God is an actual "he". And,

To some other ones God is an actual human being.

But, what the word God could have been actually referring to, exactly, is even different again.
accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:41 pm and in that book the character known as 'God' is a 'male' (how surprising). Do you also find it strange that Voldemort is referred to as 'he'?
In English, proper nouns are always capitalised.
Hope this clears up your confusion :)
'To some others' no doubt Voldemort is an 'actual human being'. What does that have to do with anything?
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accelafine wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:23 am
Age wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:54 pm
accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:41 pm 'God' with a capital 'G' is a character in a book,
To you maybe.

To some others God is an actual "he". And,

To some other ones God is an actual human being.

But, what the word God could have been actually referring to, exactly, is even different again.
accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:41 pm and in that book the character known as 'God' is a 'male' (how surprising). Do you also find it strange that Voldemort is referred to as 'he'?
In English, proper nouns are always capitalised.
Hope this clears up your confusion :)
'To some others' no doubt Voldemort is an 'actual human being'. What does that have to do with anything?
To point out that what you consider and/or believe is just 'a character' in a book, to you, may not well be just 'a character' in a book, at all nor only.
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Age wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:05 am Why do the so-called "theists" here believe and claim that God exists, while the so-called "atheists" here believe and claim that God does not exist, yet none of these people can inform absolutely anyone of who and/or what God even is, exactly?

Also, some of these people refer to God as a "he".

Will anyone who does this explain why they do this?
Do you know what God is, exactly?
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night912 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:34 am
Age wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:05 am Why do the so-called "theists" here believe and claim that God exists, while the so-called "atheists" here believe and claim that God does not exist, yet none of these people can inform absolutely anyone of who and/or what God even is, exactly?

Also, some of these people refer to God as a "he".

Will anyone who does this explain why they do this?
Do you know what God is, exactly?
Yes.

Do you know what God is, exactly?
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Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:07 am As 'we' can see here again there is now more deflection, and lies.

But "atheists" and "theists" are, still, both equally prevented and stopped from seeing the actual and irrefutable Truth, which is before them here.
More deflection and lies by Age.
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Age wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:05 am Why do the so-called "theists" here believe and claim that God exists, while the so-called "atheists" here believe and claim that God does not exist, yet none of these people can inform absolutely anyone of who and/or what God even is, exactly?

Also, some of these people refer to God as a "he".

The answer to why do the 'believers' believe or disbelieve the existence or none-existence of a God, is simple. Obviously, ''theists'' and ''atheists'' are creating their own reality according to their own personal self-made beliefs via thought.

This must be what they want. But whether or not they actually Know exactly what it is, that they want or do not want, is rather hard to pin down, actually.
I suppose they could make something up they believe to be real for them. I mean, take the (Lord of the Rings) for example, there's this idea that a place called 'Middle Earth' exists. So why not add a God into the story too?
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:46 am
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:07 am As 'we' can see here again there is now more deflection, and lies.

But "atheists" and "theists" are, still, both equally prevented and stopped from seeing the actual and irrefutable Truth, which is before them here.
More deflection and lies by Age.
Not that you will ever clarify, nor justify, but in regards to 'what', exactly?
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Me-Be wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:06 am
Age wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:05 am Why do the so-called "theists" here believe and claim that God exists, while the so-called "atheists" here believe and claim that God does not exist, yet none of these people can inform absolutely anyone of who and/or what God even is, exactly?

Also, some of these people refer to God as a "he".

The answer to why do the 'believers' believe or disbelieve the existence or none-existence of a God, is simple. Obviously, ''theists'' and ''atheists'' are creating their own reality according to their own personal self-made beliefs via thought.
Thank you, profusely, for answering the actual question posed, and asked, here.

It happens so irregularly that it is a very welcome sight, and very refreshing when it occurs.
Me-Be wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:06 am This must be what they want. But whether or not they actually Know exactly what it is, that they want or do not want, is rather hard to pin down, actually.
I agree, getting these people to clarify, and/or 'pin down', the actual thoughts and beliefs within is some thing that is very rare here.
Me-Be wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:06 am I suppose they could make something up they believe to be real for them. I mean, take the (Lord of the Rings) for example, there's this idea that a place called 'Middle Earth' exists. So why not add a God into the story too?
Among the countless other things human beings have believed, or disbelieved, were true, and without absolutely any proof at all for.
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Age wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:44 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:46 am
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:07 am As 'we' can see here again there is now more deflection, and lies.

But "atheists" and "theists" are, still, both equally prevented and stopped from seeing the actual and irrefutable Truth, which is before them here.
More deflection and lies by Age.
Not that you will ever clarify, nor justify, but in regards to 'what', exactly?
What I quoted. That's why I quoted it.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:15 pm
Age wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:44 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:46 am More deflection and lies by Age.
Not that you will ever clarify, nor justify, but in regards to 'what', exactly?
What I quoted. That's why I quoted it.
Here 'we' have another example of a "deceiver" being elusive.
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Age wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:44 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:46 am
Age wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:07 am As 'we' can see here again there is now more deflection, and lies.

But "atheists" and "theists" are, still, both equally prevented and stopped from seeing the actual and irrefutable Truth, which is before them here.
More deflection and lies by Age.
Not that you will ever clarify, nor justify, but in regards to 'what', exactly?
Again with the, slightly implicit this time, binary accusation.
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Age wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:05 am Why do the so-called "theists" here believe and claim that God exists, while the so-called "atheists" here believe and claim that God does not exist,
I am an atheist in as much as I don't believe there is any entity in existence that conforms to anything I would describe as God. But that is not the same as believing and claiming that God does not exist. Atheism, in my case, is best described as an absence of belief. I don't actually care whether God -or a god- exists, which is probably why I haven't given much thought to the question beyond concluding such an existence is highly unlikely.

So, in my case, and probably several others, your above assumption about atheists is incorrect.
yet none of these people can inform absolutely anyone of who and/or what God even is, exactly?
Again, you are incorrect. Lots of theists are able to inform anyone of who or what the God they are referring to is. So can atheists when they are referencing a specific concept of God.
Also, some of these people refer to God as a "he".

Will anyone who does this explain why they do this?
I do it because when I talk about God, I am usually talking about the God of the Bible, and the God of the Bible is conventionally referred to as he. Actually, some people insist on capitalising "He", but I never do that, which is my way of demonstrating irreverence. 🙂
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:40 pm
Age wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:44 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:46 am More deflection and lies by Age.
Not that you will ever clarify, nor justify, but in regards to 'what', exactly?
Again with the, slightly implicit this time, binary accusation.
I am not sure if this one is purposely doing what it is here, or if even knows what it is doing here, but what can be seen here is that it is proving me True, and Right.
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