Was Hitler as bad as some make him out to be?

[Age]

What have I, supposedly, previously been informed of and about, exactly, that, supposedly, makes what I have said here a Truly idiotic and stupid thing to say?

I thought I'd show you your idiotic response by using it.

But, once again, because you keep missing it, I can prove what I said and claimed, whereas you could not.

Also, notice how this one, again, would not answer and clarify, but will try to deflect, and deceive, instead.

This is because this one could not possibly clarify here, because of its continual lies and misunderstandings here.

Not that you will clarify here. As you will prove me True, once more.

What are you, an assertion?

And, once again, it does not clarify here, and so proves me absolutely True, once more here.

Are you trying to look very immature here?

I'm glad you recognize the immaturity of your posts.

Even this remark and comment here by this one is Truly immature.

I'm sure it's must feel freeing to be able to claims things on the internet where no one can look at you while you do.

Once again, 'we' have another example of trying to deflect, and thus deceive as well.

you have completely and utterly missed what has happened and occurred here, once more.

What you are presuming I was talking about is not what I was.

LOL. You put so little effort into talking about what you are talking about. And this was yet another example.

Again, absolutely no clarification provided this one. Only attempts at deflection, and deception.

Age, you don't notice, but your posts are contentless.

And, what you keep missing and misunderstanding here, and once again, for the poor of hearing and slow of learning, I am, purposely, leaving parts of them what you call contentless, to 'see' who here has any curiosity and interest left within them.

I am mirroring them. And you're hardly concise about it.

And, what you have been continually missing here is that I have been using specific words in my mirrored responses of yours to show and prove how you have been completely and utterly missing what you are doing here.

That is you could not be more elusive, even if you were trying to be.

In other words you never actually are getting to any thing because what you are saying could mean just about any thing.

If you had not missed this Fact, previously, then you would not be continually doing what you are here. Which is actually proving absolutely and irrefutably True about you adult human beings here and how the brain actually works.

But, as you have proven over and over continuously, you much prefer to just believe things on your already obtained assumptions of things, before making any attempt at all to just obtain clarity.

And you have proven that you universalize the way people end up interacting with you with how they are in general.

So, even when I talk about this one, only, it, still, wants to try to talk about me so-called 'universalizing'.

Ah, here I can help. You assume that I respond to others the way I do you.

But I have never ever assumed this.

Why do you believe you began to assume another thing here that is absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect?

Again, not that you will answer and clarify this for 'us' here.

You simply refer to what you see as my patterns as if they are that way in any context, with any person.

But I have never done this.

What you are doing here, once more, is what you continually do here. That is; presume something before you ever even begin to seek out clarification first.

Which is, obviously, just more distraction, deflection, and deception on this one's part.

So, you assumed.

No I never. you are again just presuming I did. Again. I suggest you seek out and obtain actual clarification before you make these Truly closed Wrong and False presumptions of yours.

Also, because I have actual proof for what I said, there was not even any need for me to assume. So, your assumption here that I assumed is just plain old False and Wrong.

And, there is far, far more information, to reveal, to those who show interest and curiosity.

And what do you think led to my losing interest and curiosity about what you might reveal. I have said some of the reasons. Perhaps you remember:

But, from my perspective, you have not shown any real interest, nor curiosity, at all from the outset, let alone supposedly 'losing' any.

Do you remember some of the reasons I have explained for this? Or, did you miss this as well?

But it is great that you've found five or six different ways of saying 'I disagree' using more words.

LOL What do you think or believe you are even 'disagreeing' with here, exactly?

I wasn't. I said, that you've found five or six ways of saying 'I disagree' using more words. You tend to write ten words or more when what you mean is that you disagree. I wasn't disagreeing, I was pointing out your habit.

But, you missed 'the point' AGAIN.

I was not necessarily disagreeing. Why do you believe that my words were saying that I was disagreeing? And, disagreeing with 'what', exactly?

And, if you were 'not disagreeing', then what do you believe that I am disagreeing with, exactly?

Also, why are you so narrowed and closed here? Why do you think or believe that I am only saying 'I disagree'?

Odd, here you seem to understand what I meant and above you did not.

Once again, you misunderstood what I meant because you never ever even began to seek out clarification, but instead to choose to assume some thing first. Which, as you continually do you then chose to believe your own made up assumption was true. Which is why you completely and utterly missed and/or misunderstood what happened and occurred here, as well.

One day you might learn to seek out and obtain clarity first, before you begin to assume, and believe, things.

Once again, this one has completely and utterly 'missed the mark'.

And yet another way of saying it.

And, once again, you are absolutely Wrong and Incorrect. I am not doing what you assume and believe I am.

I was just pointing out what you do, and thus not doing what you claim here.

you are also doing the very thing that has led you to so much of the confusion and Wrong presumptions and beliefs that you have and hold here.

All of which you have absolutely no idea nor clue about. But, when, and if, you also learn how the Mind and the brain actually work, then you will have a much better understanding of what has been happening and occurring here. Of which I have all the proof that I need, and which I could through all of it by just 'looking back' over our discussions here in this forum.

Again, if any one is Truly curious and interested to.

I am not, exactly, sure what you are trying to say and claim here.

How convenient.

But, you are appearing to become more 'frazzled' as some might say, as we progress and move along here.

I can't wait to meet the rest of the 'some.'

Okay, but why do you believe that you can not wait?

I do hope you're joking here.

What do you mean, exactly?

As can be clearly seen, and proved True, here I just asked you another Truly open clarifying question in regards to what you said and claimed here.

It seems you can't understand the colloquialism 'I can't wait' nor, again, irony.

Once again, this one has presumed some thing, jumped to a conclusion, and then believe its own presumption and conclusion is true, before it ever occurred to it to just ask a Truly open clarifying question first.

And, once more, obviously what seems to you could be absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect. Which is, exactly, what is True, Right, Accurate, and Correct here, now.

[Age]

The one known as "adolf hitler" was the sweetest most lovable person, and thus, obviously, not as so-called 'bad' as some made that human being out to be.

But, then again, I might well be 'looking at', and thus 'seeing' a whole and completely different 'perspective' of things here.

And, for those who are interested and curios at all, then let 'us' have an open and honest and peaceful discussion.

[Iwannaplato]

But, once again, because you keep missing it, I can prove what I said and claimed, whereas you could not.

Also, notice how this one, again, would not answer and clarify, but will try to deflect, and deceive, instead.

This is because this one could not possibly clarify here, because of its continual lies and misunderstandings here.

Oh, Age, there are so many things you have missed, that our conversation has deteriorated to where it generaly is. You use of the word 'lies' above is incorrect. There is truth in deflect and also falsehood. I stopped going along with your choice of patterns in the interaction. So, for you it is deflection. For me, it is a choice to focus on the problems in your communication and to not be led down a path that I tried with you several times.

Curiosity, for me, is elicted by the presence of integrity and something new. But having encountered you for a while, I have noticed 1) the process you claim to start is actually a different one and 2) I do not share some of your values 3) there are some glaring holes in your understanding. The last point is not a problem unless a) the person is not making the kinds of claims you make and b) reacts to these holes being pointed out in the defensive and aggressive ways you do.

Now, my sense is that you do not experience your posts the way I described them in that last point. But as others have pointed out, you have problems when it comes to introspection. Further I do not think you consciously try to decieve, but given the lack of introspective ability you deceive.

I have not seen one insight either at the process level not at the content level that leads me to be curious, especially considering the shortcomings above.

From your perspective none of this can be true. Fine. I can't imagine it was easy being Ken - I know that may not have been that body's birth name - but it's just a pointer towards that child and person, who no doubt was on the wrong end of a lot of unpleasant behavior by others. This approach of yours works or 'works' for you. I have no interest in taking it away from Ken, say. But you generalize and universalize and in the precise ways that many would-be spiritual leaders do, here with your judgments of others on your sleeve - yes, I know you deny have general negative judgments of human beings, even though these have been pointed out to you.

So, here we are, and you continue to react to everything in the very simple schema you have.

[Age]

But, once again, because you keep missing it, I can prove what I said and claimed, whereas you could not.

Also, notice how this one, again, would not answer and clarify, but will try to deflect, and deceive, instead.

This is because this one could not possibly clarify here, because of its continual lies and misunderstandings here.

Oh, Age, there are so many things you have missed,

Okay.

Now, how many things, exactly, have I, supposedly, missed?

And, what were they, exactly?

Now, let 'us' see if this one answers and clarifies this time, or if it just tries to deflect, detract, and/or deceive, once more.

And, if it ever does actually answer and clarify, let 'us' see if it has the ability to remain open, and to wait, to seek out to obtain actual clarity if its answers and clarification is actually True and Right, or if it just believes its own presumption and conclusion is true.

that our conversation has deteriorated to where it generaly is.

Were you not yet aware they by just copying 'the way' you speak and write here 'our conversation' deteriorated in, exactly, 'the way' that I already knew that it would.

See, if you did not already know that this would cause that to happen and occur, exactly, like it has, and would, here, then you did not know that this is it, exactly, what I wanted that to be.

You use of the word 'lies' above is incorrect.

Okay.

There is truth in deflect and also falsehood.

Okay.

I stopped going along with your choice of patterns in the interaction.

And, it was your choice of patterns in the interaction that I never ever was going to go along with, at all, except of one, of course, which I chose to copy, knowing what would actually happen and occur here. As I just provide more proof of, but with you maybe, still, are missing.

'We' will just have to wait to see.

So, for you it is deflection. For me, it is a choice to focus on the problems in your communication and to not be led down a path that I tried with you several times.

But, it is, literally, not that at all.

And, since you obviously, still, cannot yet recognize, comprehend, see, and understand the actual issue in your way of communicating, then it is, obviously, only others who can see why 'your way of communicating' here is just about an absolute failure.

Curiosity, for me, is elicted by the presence of integrity and something new.

So, if another, to you anyway, does not appear to have 'strong moral principles', which is obviously absolutely 'so relative', to have actually meaning for a basis at all here, you can then, quite conveniently, not have absolutely any curiosity drawn out from you, no matter how absolutely new or amazing the 'very thing' is, itself.

So, one could actually have and hold the actual formula and solution to 'world peace' for absolutely every one, but if you believed that 'that one' was a so-called "thief", to you, then curiosity would not be elicited, 'from you'.

Which is all perfectly fine and okay, if that is 'the way' that you, really, want to live, and go through 'your life' with.

But having encountered you for a while, I have noticed 1) the process you claim to start is actually a different one and 2)

Once again, this one, absolutely, does not recognize what it is doing again here, or, if it does, does this 'on purpose' knowing that 'absolute detrimental effect' this causes and creates here.

And, to prove just how much integrity, or how lacking this one really is in integrity, itself, one just has to ask it whether it knows what it is doing here or not, and if it does, then is it the 'exact same' thing I am referring to, and if it is, then why does it keep doing this?

Either it will answer openly or honestly, or, deceptively and deceivingly.

I do not share some of your values

Who cares?

you cannot prove that 'your, so-called, values' are good and Right, for every one. Whereas, I can.

So, I know 'which values' are far more important, and, literally, have far more 'value', in Life.

3) there are some glaring holes in your understanding.

Really?

If yes, are they absolute 'holes'?

Also, it is, obvious, even to you that your presumption, and even belief, here could be absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect.

So, until you provide a list of what you perceive and believe are the so-called 'glaring holes' in 'my understanding' here, then, once again, you have said/presented absolutely nothing at all. And, literally, absolutely nothing at all to 'look at' and 'discuss'.

But, you have never shown to be one that allows the actual Truth to get in the forefront of what you, already, hold and believe is true and right.

In fact you continually prove that you do not even have the courage, nor even skill, to present your actual beliefs and presumptions, openly, honestly, and fully.

For example, I will ask you here to present what you claim here are 'some glaring holes in my understanding', here.

And, 'we' shall wait to see what follows.

The last point is not a problem

To me your last 'claim', or what you call 'point' is, literally, not a 'problem' at all. As I have already explained, to you. But, which you may well have completely and utterly forgotten, once again.

unless a) the person is not making the kinds of claims you make and b) reacts to these holes being pointed out in the defensive and aggressive ways you do.

LOL

you just saying and claiming that there 'are holes' in absolutely no way in the whole Universe means that they actually do exist.

And, the Fact that you are very, very elusive in ever explaining and showing where, when, how, and why, exactly, is just more proof that your imagines and beliefs are over exaggerated, and actually do not have absolutely anything to do with the actual Truth of things.

And, it will only ever come-to-light what the actual Truth is if you ever build up enough courage to begin being absolutely open and honest here.

Also, noticed is your absolute False claim that 'I' 'react' in so-called and alleged 'defensive' and even 'aggressive' ways, is just another sign and more proof that you actually have absolutely nothing, at all, and are just trying your absolute hardest to detract, deflect, and deceive 'the readers' here.

Furthermore, and once again, 'I' am absolutely going to 'defend the Truth', or what you might call be 'defensive' when you make claims and/or accusations that are False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect. I also hope others would do 'the same' and/or 'react' in the 'same way', as well.

There is absolutely nothing Wrong at all in being so-called 'defensive' if what is being claimed is False, Wrong, Inaccurate, or Incorrect.

And, if you can, supposedly, 'see' 'aggressiveness' in 'just words', alone, then by all means keep 'seeing' 'that'. But, as you will, readily, admit you know you could be absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect, as well here.

Now, my sense is that you do not experience your posts the way I described them in that last point. But as others have pointed out, you have problems when it comes to introspection.

LOL All of you could 'point out' that I have so-called 'problems' when it comes to absolutely any thing with me. But, this will never ever mean that you are Right and Correct.

And, considering the Fact that 'I' am also pointing out the issues with you adult human beings here, in the days when this is being written, and especially so in your inability to just 'look at' and 'see' "yourselves" as you all Truly are, (and let 'us' remember that it is 'I' who is saying and claiming that 'I' know who and what 'you' are, and who and what 'I' am, exactly. While all of 'you' openly and readily admit that 'you' do not), then just maybe it is, literally, not 'I' with the so-called 'problem' here.

Just maybe the very reason why you adult human beings are continually killing "yourselves" through your fighting and warring, and through your destruction of your one and only home, is because of what 'I' am 'pointing out', and 'revealing', here, which you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, are, still, not yet 'recognizing', 'seeing', and 'understanding'.

And, once again, for the blind and very, very slow of learning, what you and others are 'pointing out', to me here, in regards 'to me', is, to me, exactly, like those who 'believed' that the earth could not and does not revolve around the sun were, supposedly, 'pointing out' to 'the one' who was informing them of what the actual and irrefutable Truth, really, is, exactly.

Further I do not think you consciously try to decieve, but given the lack of introspective ability you deceive.

But what actual proof do you have for your presumption and belief that I have a lack of introspective ability?

In fact do you have absolutely any at all?

If yes, then will you provide it?

If no, then, again, why not?

Until you provide absolutely some thing, then, again, 'we', literally, have absolutely nothing at all to 'look at' and 'discuss'.

I have not seen one insight either at the process level not at the content level that leads me to be curious, especially considering the shortcomings above.

That is the, supposed and alleged, 'shortcomings', which 'we' will wait to see if you provide any actual thing for.

And, any such 'further claim' of 'it is back there', and/or 'which you would find if you looked for it', will, again, never ever suffice.

If there is absolutely nothing at all here that draws out absolutely any 'curiosity' within you at all here, then this is absolutely perfectly fine and great, with me.

you are, literally, proving absolutely True what I will be saying about how you human beings, literally, work, and do not work.

Human beings' downfall is because of a few things. Which, quite surprisingly, you ones here in this forum are proving to be absolutely True, Right, and Accurate, and Correct far quicker, simpler, and easier, for me, then i had first imagined would be the case.

From your perspective none of this can be true.

But, all of it is true. And, again, you are, still, completely and utterly missing what is happening and occurring here, 'right now'.

Fine.

Here is another prime example of this one, almost instantaneously, assuming some thing, just as quickly jumping to a conclusion, and also just as quickly believing that its own made up assumption, and conclusion, is true and right. Without ever once just stopping for a second to consider if it should seek out and obtain any actual clarity first.

It does not matter one iota how False, Wrong, Inaccurate, or Incorrect its first assumption was here, nor in other places, it will, still, just conclude, and believe, that it is true and right, and will proceed on 'from there'.

And, that it does this over and over and over again, and again, does not matter to this one at all.

This actually believes that it knows more and/or better than others do.

Which is prime proof of just how severely abused this one has been, up to when this was being written.

I can't imagine it was easy being Ken - I know that may not have been that body's birth name - but it's just a pointer towards that child and person, who no doubt was on the wrong end of a lot of unpleasant behavior by others.

Once again this one speaks and writes as though it is superior, to others.

This approach of yours works or 'works' for you.

Once again, the habit of 'this one' it just cannot get over, nor past.

I have no interest in taking it away from Ken, say.

Again, this one seems to get completely and utterly lost and confused in some assumption/s, of its own making, and which it then believes are, absolutely, true and right, and so then goes of some tangent, which is very 'weird and wild' as some might say here.

But you generalize and universalize and in the precise ways that many would-be spiritual leaders do, here with your judgments of others on your sleeve - yes, I know you deny have general negative judgments of human beings, even though these have been pointed out to you.

Once again, you just say things like, 'these have been pointed out to you', as though there is some actual truth in what was 'pointed out'.

So, here we are, and you continue to react to everything in the very simple schema you have.

But, you believe that you continue to react to everything in a very different way from the 'very simple schema you have', right?

Or, do you continue to react to everything in the 'very simple schema you have', also?

If no, then how and why not?

[Iwannaplato]

But, once again, because you keep missing it, I can prove what I said and claimed, whereas you could not.

Also, notice how this one, again, would not answer and clarify, but will try to deflect, and deceive, instead.

This is because this one could not possibly clarify here, because of its continual lies and misunderstandings here.

Oh, Age, there are so many things you have missed,

Okay.

Now, how many things, exactly, have I, supposedly, missed?

And, what were they, exactly?

I have done this work. One area has to do with language itself, in part around metaphorical vs. literal though there are other issues there as well.

But I have done this and also give resources for you to look at. If you are actually curious, you will look into those. If you are not, well, there's little point in discussing it.

I am not interested in repeating myself, given the patterns of communication you have shown so far.

[Age]

Oh, Age, there are so many things you have missed,

Okay.

Now, how many things, exactly, have I, supposedly, missed?

And, what were they, exactly?

I have done this work. One area has to do with language itself, in part around metaphorical vs. literal though there are other issues there as well.

But, ONCE AGAIN, what you 'presume' I have missed, without clarification, I might not have missed AT ALL.

ONCE AGAIN, just because you presume some thing does not meant that 'it' is Real and True.

Now, if you have the 'courage' to, provide the actual time/s when you believe that I have missed a part around metaphorical versus literal.

And, are you under some sort of belief or presumption that you have not missed any area around language itself, in part around metaphorical versus literal?

If yes, then are you really that confident about "your" 'self'?

But I have done this and also give resources for you to look at. If you are actually curious, you will look into those. If you are not, well, there's little point in discussing it.

ONCE AGAIN, this one 'alludes' to some thing, ONLY.

I have informed 'you' of this very faulty form of communication that you have and have also given resources for you to look at. Now, if you are actually curious, you will look into those. But, if you believe that you do not need any help here at all regarding this, then there is little point in discussing it, correct?

I am not interested in repeating myself, given the patterns of communication you have shown so far.

I am also not interested in repeating to you that you keep 'alluding' to things, instead of just being open and honest here, given the patterns of communication you have shown so far.

But, this is a philosophy forum, and not a "english" teaching class. So, maybe it would be best that 'you' and 'I' stop telling each other how to communicate better, in 'the ways' 'we' think 'the other' needs to communicate better, correct?

So, was the human being named "adolf hitler" as so-called 'bad' as what some of you human beings made out to be?

Obviously this would all depend on what is being said and claimed.

Also, it is absolutely irrefutable that 'that human being' was not always 'as bad' as what is said and claimed 'about it'.

In fact 'that human being' was just as 'bad' and as 'good' as 'all human beings' are. Again, this is just another fact of you human beings, which is also irrefutable.

Now, would any of you like to discuss this? If anyone is interested enough, then I can and will show and explain how and why, fully.

[Iwannaplato]

But, ONCE AGAIN, what you 'presume' I have missed, without clarification, I might not have missed AT ALL.

Yes, let's keep this all at the hypothetical level, delaying in the hopes of others creating text.

ONCE AGAIN, just because you presume some thing does not meant that 'it' is Real and True.

Now, if you have the 'courage' to, provide the actual time/s when you believe that I have missed a part around metaphorical versus literal.

Yes, get the other to do work and produce text. Some will do this even after having found out that the process of clarification and questioning and requesting justification with you leads to having oneself to justify much, much more, so that Age never ends up actually getting to his justification. Some will keep going. I went further than most bother with Age, out of curiosity and interest. But then, I have a limit to how much I will buy false advertising.

And, are you under some sort of belief or presumption that you have not missed any area around language itself, in part around metaphorical versus literal?

Irrelevant.

[Age]

But, ONCE AGAIN, what you 'presume' I have missed, without clarification, I might not have missed AT ALL.

Yes, let's keep this all at the hypothetical level, delaying in the hopes of others creating text.

ONCE AGAIN, just because you presume some thing does not meant that 'it' is Real and True.

Now, if you have the 'courage' to, provide the actual time/s when you believe that I have missed a part around metaphorical versus literal.

Yes, get the other to do work and produce text. Some will do this even after having found out that the process of clarification and questioning and requesting justification with you leads to having oneself to justify much, much more, so that Age never ends up actually getting to his justification. Some will keep going. I went further than most bother with Age, out of curiosity and interest. But then, I have a limit to how much I will buy false advertising.

And, are you under some sort of belief or presumption that you have not missed any area around language itself, in part around metaphorical versus literal?

Irrelevant.

But it is not irrelevant if you believe some thing here. But because you will not just be open and honest, then if it irrelevant or not is left unknown.

Now, as for you writing lots and lots of texts, while never actually clarifying nor justifying your beliefs, and to just make more accusations about me, supposedly, seeking more text from you, is revealing much more than you are actually saying.

Also, you are yet to prove your claim and belief here, as well.

[Iwannaplato]

Now, as for you writing lots and lots of texts, while never actually clarifying nor justifying your beliefs.

A false binary claim on your part. Like a child screaming never, when they don't get what they want in a given instance. And since you generally don't remember things that have happened between us, I can either choose to become responsible for your memory and go find the posts where I justified claims, with you and others. Or you think that it is somehow appropriate to treat your own false claims as justified, when they are not.

I have developed a pattern in relation to you. And I have explained why. In the past I justified this choice with examples and arguments. Vastly less likely now.

[Age]

Now, as for you writing lots and lots of texts, while never actually clarifying nor justifying your beliefs.

A false binary claim on your part. Like a child screaming never, when they don't get what they want in a given instance. And since you generally don't remember things that have happened between us, I can either choose to become responsible for your memory and go find the posts where I justified claims, with you and others. Or you think that it is somehow appropriate to treat your own false claims as justified, when they are not.

I have developed a pattern in relation to you. And I have explained why. In the past I justified this choice with examples and arguments. Vastly less likely now.

Once again the pattern continues.

This one does not provide absolutely any thing, which proves nor justifies its position, and belief, here.

[Iwannaplato]

Once again the pattern continues.

This one does not provide absolutely any thing, which proves nor justifies its position, and belief, here.

Once again the pattern continues. He'll never get around to justifying that I never clarify or justify. One because if you interact with Age, he will try to get you to justify and clarify all sorts of things, much more than he does. Two, because he can't justfiy his binary claim that I never justify or clarify. If he can't remember examples where I did this in relation to him, let alone other people, then what is the point of showing him - which I have done before - given that he will likely just forget it again. There are people paid to take care of people with serious memory problems and often families do this. But I am not paid nor am I family, so he is on his own.

The implication of his posts is that if one justifies or clarifies then he will not repeat his claim that one never does these things. That implication is false. It has come up again regardless.

[Age]

Once again the pattern continues.

This one does not provide absolutely any thing, which proves nor justifies its position, and belief, here.

Once again the pattern continues. He'll never get around to justifying that I never clarify or justify. One because if you interact with Age, he will try to get you to justify and clarify all sorts of things, much more than he does. Two, because he can't justfiy his binary claim that I never justify or clarify. If he can't remember examples where I did this in relation to him, let alone other people, then what is the point of showing him - which I have done before - given that he will likely just forget it again. There are people paid to take care of people with serious memory problems and often families do this. But I am not paid nor am I family, so he is on his own.

The implication of his posts is that if one justifies or clarifies then he will not repeat his claim that one never does these things. That implication is false. It has come up again regardless.

Now, obviously my 'never' claim was False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect. But, considering the amount of times when you do it, compared to when you do not, then it is far, far closer to 'never' than 'always'.

As can be clearly seen and proved above here.

But this will still never excuse what I said and claimed above here.

[Iwannaplato]

Now, obviously my 'never' claim was False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect. But, considering the amount of times when you do it, compared to when you do not, then it is far, far closer to 'never' than 'always'.

And how often since you arrived have you made claims, that are binary and false and incorrect, and generalizations about humans at the time this is being written and made proclamations about people that were not correct? Often. And how might this affect the people you are communicating with?

Note the optimism in posing this question after having so many times raised such issues in specific with this moron. This social moron, this language use moron. No, it is always other people's fault when they do not grasp what he thinks is the obvious. When they stop clarifying or justifying in relation to this moron, it is always because of failures on their part. It never has to do with the enormous ego of Age and his problematic judgments and held anger aimed at his fellow humans, oozing out of his generalizations and bindy attacks. Sure, little Age can admit to grammatical and spelling mistakes, failures in the structure of sentences, but since he think he is what he identifies with and that he is no a human being, anything more fundamental has to be other people's fault.

Lacking memory of previous interactions, anyone's behavior in relation to him has only to do with their problems. They never learned something about interacting with him from interacting with him.

Here he admits that the binary claim was false but never actually investigates why he made that binary claim. And it is not a rare kind of claim on his part. Personally I have encountered this kind of claim many times, even when counter-evidence is nearby in the same thread.

If Age was not someone who judges people for non-literal and inexact language use - from his perspective - and who refers to other people as human beings, a category he does not consider himself a part of, this would be different. But he does not notice or have any genuine interest in his own use of non-literal language or the issue in general of language, even seemingly literal language, being metaphorical. He does not consider that his particular neurological tendencies might lead him to misinterpret and dislike language that works perfectly well for others. It must be wrong because he has problems recognizing and using it. So, he can go around judging human beings for being as they are and say how these ways he thinks we are different from him lead to the problems back when this was being written, with completel lack of self-awareness. Of course, we all make mistakes, but generally not from some claimed non-human, I am something like enlightened, claimed state.

He often asks people if they realize the could possibly be wrong, and projects his own certainties onto their statements, while never quite managing to introspect about what he is implicitly and explicitly claiming about himself. Of course we could make mistakes, we are human beings. we know that. Well, most of us do. Some, like Age, do not. Again, yes, he can admit the small, detail, communication based mistakes. But that there is any problem with his program and way of interacting in general. Nope. Is Age a human being, nope. Does he have access to all the irrefutable truths and can he prove them? According to him yes. Does he get angry? Nope, according to him. This transcendent being continuously projects his flaws on others. And that is an old story in a new incarnation.

[Age]

Now, obviously my 'never' claim was False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect. But, considering the amount of times when you do it, compared to when you do not, then it is far, far closer to 'never' than 'always'.

And how often since you arrived have you made claims, that are binary and false and incorrect,

Besides the very rare ones, like the one that you made me aware of above here, then none.

Now, if you are aware of any what you call 'binary claims' of mine, then will you list them in point form for the readers here to 'look at' and 'see'?

Also, will you explain to 'us' here what do you actually mean by 'binary claims'?

Furthermore, I will again suggest that if you are aware of any false or incorrect claims of mine, then you just list them down, again in point form, so it makes it easier and simpler for the readers to 'see' them, and then you become, and remain, open to the Fact that what you 'perceive' to be false, incorrect, or even so-called 'binary' might not in fact be at all.

Are you able and willing to do these things?

If no, then why not, exactly?

and generalizations about humans at the time this is being written and made proclamations about people that were not correct? Often.

If you can just say, 'often', then I can just as simply and as easily say, 'not often'.

Now, since it is you who is making 'the claim' that I 'often' do what you purport here, then it is up 'to you' to provide 'the proof' for 'your claim/s' here.

And how might this affect the people you are communicating with?

Once again, you appear to be under some sort of absolute complete delusion that 'you' posters here are my intended audience.

Look, I will say this, AGAIN, for you. I might, in fact, be USING you posters here to reveal things for my intended audience. Which means that you posters here were never ever intended to be 'communicated with'.

Note the optimism in posing this question after having so many times raised such issues in specific with this moron.

'The way' you are 'affected', and 'respond', might, in fact, be absolutely intended. And, intended to prove, irrefutably, a point 'about' you human beings. Which, again, I might have a target audience to who I want to 'communicate' 'this' with, exactly, And, which might not be 'you' AT ALL "iwannaplato".

Have you ever considered this?

If no, then this might be 'very surprising', to some, considering the Fact that I have informed you, more or less, of the exact same things numereous times, already.

This social moron, this language use moron. No, it is always other people's fault when they do not grasp what he thinks is the obvious.

What are you even on about here, now?

Why do you presume so many things which are, continually, absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect?

When they stop clarifying or justifying in relation to this moron, it is always because of failures on their part.

This one is completely and utterly losing 'all Right viewing and seeing perspectives' here.

This one appears to be actually 'believing' that it can, and does, speak for 'I', of all things.

And, considering the Fact that what it is expressing could not be more False and Wrong, this one appears to have just about lost all sense here.

It never has to do with the enormous ego of Age and his problematic judgments and held anger aimed at his fellow humans, oozing out of his generalizations and bindy attacks.

There are at least seven things here, in this one tiny snippet of this one's thinking and believing, which are absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect here.

But, because this one believes that there is absolutely nothing False, Wrong, Inaccurate, nor Incorrect here, 'I' will just leave 'it' in its own made up beliefs.

Sure, little Age can admit to grammatical and spelling mistakes, failures in the structure of sentences, but since he think he is what he identifies with and that he is no a human being, anything more fundamental has to be other people's fault.

Are you open, at all, to the irrefutable Fact that your presumptions and beliefs here could be Wrong?

Lacking memory of previous interactions, anyone's behavior in relation to him has only to do with their problems. They never learned something about interacting with him from interacting with him.

This one appears absolutely infatuated 'with me'. That is if one were to base things here on just how much 'this one' writes and talks 'about me' here, in this forum.

Here he admits that the binary claim was false but never actually investigates why he made that binary claim.

There would be no use, at all, in asking it to clarify what 'binary claim' is it even referring to here, because it would not. Correct "iwannaplato"?

And it is not a rare kind of claim on his part. Personally I have encountered this kind of claim many times, even when counter-evidence is nearby in the same thread.

Again, 'evidence' is 'not proof'. And, again, 'proof' is only, really, what is worth 'looking at', and 'discussing', here.

Just like 'debating' is not worth doing, at all.

Just like 'assuming', 'theorizing', and just plain 'guessing' are not worth doing, especially considering that the actual irrefutable Truth can be 'looked at', 'seen', and 'discussed' just as simply and as easy, and if not, then even more so.

And, the above is just like expressing an 'argument' here. If 'the argument' is not sound AND valid, then, really, it is not worthy of even being repeated here.

So, in other words, 'I' much prefer to just 'look at' and 'discuss' only what can actually be proved True, through sound AND valid arguments, only instead of 'trying to' 'debate' 'arguments' that are based off of 'evidence' and 'assumptions', or 'beliefs', only.

But, 'you' do 'you' "iwannaplato".

If Age was not someone who judges people for non-literal and inexact language use - from his perspective - and who refers to other people as human beings, a category he does not consider himself a part of, this would be different. But he does not notice or have any genuine interest in his own use of non-literal language or the issue in general of language, even seemingly literal language, being metaphorical. He does not consider that his particular neurological tendencies might lead him to misinterpret and dislike language that works perfectly well for others.

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And these 'others' are 'the ones' who, still, quarrel and bicker among "themselves" about things that you do not have 'proof' for, and who are the exact same ones who will openly admit that they are, still, 'searching' and 'looking for' 'answers'.

So, it is these 'others' who are then, obviously, still, 'lost and confused' that 'this one' is 'now' 'trying to' say and claim that 'they' have 'a language', which works, laughingly, so-called 'perfectly well' for.

It is like 'this one', really, cannot yet 'recognize' and 'see' what has, actually, been happening and occurring here, exactly.

Listen "iwannaplato" it is you human beings who

It must be wrong because he has problems recognizing and using it. So, he can go around judging human beings for being as they are and say how these ways he thinks we are different from him lead to the problems back when this was being written, with completel lack of self-awareness. Of course, we all make mistakes, but generally not from some claimed non-human, I am something like enlightened, claimed state.

He often asks people if they realize the could possibly be wrong, and projects his own certainties onto their statements, while never quite managing to introspect about what he is implicitly and explicitly claiming about himself.

Look "iwannaplato" unlike 'you' 'I' know, exactly, who and what 'I' am.

you, absolutely, obviously do not.

So, what is, actually, being claimed, or not claimed, here, by 'I', 'you' have not idea nor clue of.

As 'you' keep proving True here, for all to 'look at', and 'see'.

Of course we could make mistakes, we are human beings. we know that. Well, most of us do. Some, like Age, do not. Again, yes, he can admit the small, detail, communication based mistakes.

If 'you', also, ever come to uncover, or learn, and understand, fully, who and what 'I' am, exactly, as well, then 'you' will 'see' why 'your presuming' here led 'you' so, so far down the Wrong track and astray here.

But that there is any problem with his program and way of interacting in general. Nope. Is Age a human being, nope. Does he have access to all the irrefutable truths and can he prove them? According to him yes. Does he get angry? Nope, according to him. This transcendent being continuously projects his flaws on others.

For just once be 'brave' and 'strong' here "iwannaplato" and just list the my, 'actual flaws' that you believe exist here.

Stop being so 'afraid' to just be open, honest, and direct, here.

Stop being too 'weak' by continually 'alluding' to things, and just be what you would call "a man" and just present 'your actual beliefs'.

There is absolutely nothing at all here for you to be so 'scared' of and 'weak' and 'afraid' of as you are showing 'us' here.

If 'you', really, want to claim that 'I' have 'flaws' here, then just present them. Stop coming across as a Truly 'weakened' and 'frightened' animal, which is too 'scared' to just like the 'actual flaws' that 'you' BELIEVE 'I' have.

And that is an old story in a new incarnation.

[Iwannaplato]

So, to sum up, these are the things I would suggest you spend time with:
1) when people ask each other questions, this does not necessarily (at all) mean they don't know how they would answer the question. They may well be confident they know the answer. However they ask the question to see how the other person will answer it. There are ways they could ask the questions so that it was clearer to you, given your idiosyncrasies, that they are asking for your position, but 1) with nearly everyone else they don't need to do this and 2) then they have to get the wording right. For example, if they ask you 'Do you believe that.......?' suddenly they are going down a tangent on how you only believe one thing, etc. In any case, if you are going to be communicating with other humans, my suggestion for you to mull over is to not assume that when they ask you a question they do not have their own answer to the question, and quite possibly one that agrees with your answer. They may very well be trying to get your position clear. In this point 1 and a number of others, you are showing a problem with what is called Theory of Mind. This can be a symptom of, for example, certain neurodivergent conditions. At the extreme end the person might not understand that other people may have different beliefs and perceptions. But it takes on subtler forms such as the inablity to understand how their behavior might affect others, problems with non-literal language, not recognizing or appreciating irony and sarcasm, not being able to understand or misunderstanding others (making assumptions) because they can only treat the communication of others as meaning what the autistic or other person with a problem with Theory of Mind would mean, problems with perspective taking. Neurodivergence has a lot to offer all of us, but once anyone starts assuming that their way of doing things is the only correct way - and the one that will save the planet - and that other people who have, for example, a more diverse set of communication tools are necessarily wrong to use them, there is a problem, and of course, a mass of assumptions.

2) Metaphorical language is another tool in the language toolbook, which is why so many things that seem literal were once metaphors and really are still metaphors, but we are so used to them we don't notice this, unless we investigate. Chastizing people for using metaphors (in a philosophy forum or anywhere) includes confused assumptions about communication, including your own communication, and implies or explicitly is advocating removing tools for communication, when in fact we need, it seems to me, the full set.

3) Begin to put things into their wider contexts when you communicate with others. You may well have a very broad context when you think of all those things you know or claim to know, but when it comes to interactions with other humans, you communicate as if you have no memory. This is closely connected to 4, since when you judge people for how they are communicating it is often about the very recent past, and since you then describe this pattern in a binary way, it is as if the earlier past does not exist, and further it is as if that person has not gone through a process with you and perhaps decided to relate to you based on problems in the way you communicate or by the attitude behind what you communicate, sometimes explicit, other times implicit. They decided to stop doing what you want. Most people interact with you a bit and then ignore you, often deciding you have mental problems. Those who do respond to you over longer periods of time have generally stopped asking clarifying questions and stopped justifying everything you want justified. You can go on assuming this is a weakness on their part and then even forget they used to do those things. Or you can consider that your attitude and communication has led them to stop doing those things. Perhaps you think they were incorrect, that this was a poor decision on their part. But you act as if this process never happened. Personally, I tried several times to adjust my communication to fit your personal subculture. I saw no such effort on your part.

4) When people say 'I am a ________________', for example vegetarian, yes, it could potentially be confused. But you framed these kinds of statements as meaning they were saying they were nothing else as a rule. If I say I am a parent, then supposedly I am saying that is all I am. That is completely incorrect. You could ask them that if you are not sure. But in the vast majority of cases this is a completely wrong interpretation. This is related to your not understanding that everyday language that seems literal is not. You are treating language like math and it not only is not that, it cannot be that. Scientific literature will also have sentences describing things, animals, phenomena in sentences structured that way and the scientists to not mean that X is only that in most cases. If they say lions are mammals, it does not mean they are only mammals, and certainly not in individuals of that species. And when you tell people, who can and do use more tools that you do that they mean something they do not mean in an issue like this, you are confused. Yes, situations can arise where people do misuse this kind of sentence and the thoughts that go with it, but you have made rule, and it is a confused rule. It would be one thing if you recommended we move language in a certain direction. But you tell people they are saying X, when they are not. And, again, you are trying to limit language to suit your preferences and abilities.

5) This distaste you have for human beings - yes, I know you haven't explicitly said that, but it is clear in many places - and your own disidentification from humanity is problematic for three reasons: one, it comes through in how you communicate and that will make you a less effective communicator because, as you experience, most people don't want to have anything to do with you; 2) your human frailty and foibles are all over your posts, as they are in mine and other people's posts. I know you don't agree, you think you are transcendant. Well, I can only say you might want mull that over that because it is obvious to others you are not. 3) Try not to criticize the following quotes as failures to be mathematical.....

Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes." - Walt Whitman
"The most terrifying thing is to accept oneself completely." - Carl Jung
"Perfectionism is the voice of the oppressor, the enemy of the people. It will keep you cramped and insane your whole life." - Anne Lamott

6) When you tell people they can think or believe anything they want about you, you are stating something so obvious. I pointed this out before, but I don't think you gave this any space at all and just reacted from instinct. So, why are you telling someone something obvious? Not just obvious to some people, but obvious to nearly everyone. You are actually saying something else, about yourself. See if you can find what that is. I don't mean revealing by accident. I mean, you are telling them about yourself, but instead of doing this openly, you state the obvious and not about yourself. See if you can find out what you are saying about yourself and then consider: why didn't you want to say that directly? This is one of the foibles I mentioned that others can see but you seem unaware of.

I'm going to take a break from reading and responding to you. How long this will be I am not sure.