Free Will

[bahman]

That's askin'' what difference does it make if I'm alive or dead?

No it’s not.

There’s no difference, because life and death are the same immortal phenomena, they just differ in appearance that’s all.

Big like!

[Fairy]

That's askin'' what difference does it make if I'm alive or dead?

No it’s not.

There’s no difference, because life and death are the same immortal phenomena, they just differ in appearance that’s all.

Big like!

[Harbal]

We are much more than meat

How so?

As I said, and as you chose not to quote, we are important to ourselves, if to no one else.

what difference does God or the soul make, either way?

That's askin'' what difference does it make if I'm alive or dead?

Is that your way of avoiding answering the question, henry? I'll ask it again, just in case you wanted to answer it, but got confused and momentarily thought you didn't. What difference does God or the soul make to the value of our existence? I neither believe in gods nor souls, but I suspect I value myself as much as you value yourself.

[Fairy]

I'd be happy to discuss the topic.

Ain't listenin' to none of your hippy hokum, though, none of this life and death are the same immortal phenomena malarky.

No one says you have to, just say you disagree or ask for clarification. Don’t project or assume you know who I am. I’m not a hippy, or some new ager, nor am I a feeb. I’m just a regular person like you.

You don’t need to resort to angry reactive rudeness either, that’s just a show of unnecessary dismissive impatience and intolerance.

Person, just meat: what is man?

Huh?

[bahman]

I'd be happy to discuss the topic.

Ain't listenin' to none of your hippy hokum, though, none of this life and death are the same immortal phenomena malarky.

No one says you have to, just say you disagree or ask for clarification. Don’t project or assume you know who I am. I’m not a hippy, or some new ager, nor am I a feeb. I’m just a regular person like you.

You don’t need to resort to angry reactive rudeness either, that’s just a show of unnecessary dismissive impatience and intolerance.

Person, just meat: what is man?

Huh?

Why Huh!? Don't you know what a person is?

[Dubious]

I didn't bring all that nonsense up: why did you?

I answered your question and supplied a reason when the PLUS side goes too far. If you don't like it, being something of an IC follower, it ain't my fault. It only goes to show stupidity is catching.

You're an idiot. Your answer is idiotic. Your assessments are idiocy-distilled. In the dictionary you'll find...

idiot
noun
id·​i·​ot ˈi-dē-ət
plural idiots
Synonyms of idiot
1
: a foolish or stupid person
"… Idiot that I am to wear my heart on my sleeve! …"
—George Bernard Shaw
2
dated, now offensive : a person affected with extreme intellectual disability
idiot adjective
3
see dubious

Well, if I am an idiot, you're still a couple of levels below from where I, by your measure, supposedly am. There you shall remain, of that there is no question, which your response, once again, unquestionably proves.

How does affirming a limit to human exceptionalism in terms of an afterlife have any to do with wearing one's heart on one's sleeve? In what way does the quote by GBS in any way apply, the context of which is completely different. Care to enlighten?

I think what you're really upset about is my mention of your tail-wagging habits whenever IC pats you on the head.

I have a question: Can theism lead prematurely to Alzheimer's?

[Fairy]

I'd be happy to discuss the topic.

Ain't listenin' to none of your hippy hokum, though, none of this life and death are the same immortal phenomena malarky.

No one says you have to, just say you disagree or ask for clarification. Don’t project or assume you know who I am. I’m not a hippy, or some new ager, nor am I a feeb. I’m just a regular person like you.

You don’t need to resort to angry reactive rudeness either, that’s just a show of unnecessary dismissive impatience and intolerance.

Person, just meat: what is man?

Huh?

Why Huh!? Don't you know what a person is?

Yes, I know what a person is.

But not sure about the jumbled statement ….”person, just meat: what is man ?” Is supposed to be asking.
So I’m kind of left wondering and huhin at that, tbh.

[bahman]

No one says you have to, just say you disagree or ask for clarification. Don’t project or assume you know who I am. I’m not a hippy, or some new ager, nor am I a feeb. I’m just a regular person like you.

You don’t need to resort to angry reactive rudeness either, that’s just a show of unnecessary dismissive impatience and intolerance.

Huh?

Why Huh!? Don't you know what a person is?

Yes, I know what a person is.

But not sure about the jumbled statement ….”person, just meat: what is man ?” Is supposed to be asking.
So I’m kind of left wondering and huhin at that, tbh.

What is a person then?

[Immanuel Can]

It seems to me that we can't know for sure if we have free will, or to what extent we might have it if we do, so I am going to do something radical, and possibly outrageous. I've decided not to have an opinion on the matter.

Well, if Determinism is true, there’s no “you” it can “seem” to, and no way you can “have an opinion.” Opinions, like Harbals, are nothing other than the inevitable product of impersonal forces of physics. They could never be other than whatever they turn out to be.

[Fairy]

Why Huh!? Don't you know what a person is?

Yes, I know what a person is.

But not sure about the jumbled statement ….”person, just meat: what is man ?” Is supposed to be asking.
So I’m kind of left wondering and huhin at that, tbh.

What is a person then?

A human being regarded as an individual, this concept is known.

[bahman]

Yes, I know what a person is.

But not sure about the jumbled statement ….”person, just meat: what is man ?” Is supposed to be asking.
So I’m kind of left wondering and huhin at that, tbh.

What is a person then?

A human being regarded as an individual, this concept is known.

But human dies and turn into dust!

[Fairy]

What is a person then?

A human being regarded as an individual, this concept is known.

But human dies and turn into dust!

Yes.

[Dubious]

Yes, I know what a person is.

But not sure about the jumbled statement ….”person, just meat: what is man ?” Is supposed to be asking.
So I’m kind of left wondering and huhin at that, tbh.

What is a person then?

A human being regarded as an individual, this concept is known.

...a neat and tidy description, not distorted by a bunch of philosophic hocus-pocus.

[bahman]

A human being regarded as an individual, this concept is known.

But human dies and turn into dust!

Yes.

Then human cannot be immortal! So the question is what is in human that is immortal?

[Harbal]

It seems to me that we can't know for sure if we have free will, or to what extent we might have it if we do, so I am going to do something radical, and possibly outrageous. I've decided not to have an opinion on the matter.

Well, if Determinism is true, there’s no “you”

Actually, I'm fine with the possibility of there being no me.