NO. The ones that are RADICAL are the ones that DON'T follow what is commanded of them.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:47 pmI'm gonna hazard a guess that you meant to say they're the ones that DO adhere, you said don'tattofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:41 pm
You do understand that "RADICAL MUSLIMS" are the ones that don't adhere to their commandments right?
These commandments:-
“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone” (Quran 2:191-193).
“Strike off their heads and strike from them every fingertip” (Quran 8:12).
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It's interesting that you're using the exact same phrasing as someone who is trying to defend Islam, and you aren't doing any work to clarify that. It's like you're trying to be misunderstood.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:53 pmNO. The ones that are RADICAL are the ones that DON'T follow what is commanded of them.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:47 pmI'm gonna hazard a guess that you meant to say they're the ones that DO adhere, you said don'tattofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:41 pm
You do understand that "RADICAL MUSLIMS" are the ones that don't adhere to their commandments right?
These commandments:-
“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone” (Quran 2:191-193).
“Strike off their heads and strike from them every fingertip” (Quran 8:12).
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..sure, if you're plain stupid then go ahead - mis-under_stand.
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Okay, atto is saying the same thing Muslim apologists say, the radical ones are the ones that aren't obeying the religion properly, so atto is now a defender of Islam. Interesting development. More at 5.
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Maybe he should have called them thugs. I don't know the details, so I can't say. The violent rioting is unacceptable, regardless of what else might be unacceptable.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:41 pm..ooo nooo - he only called protesters THUGS in the above transcript..my bad, how terrible of me. (He didn't call the Muslim LEEDS rioters thugs tho)Harbal wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:34 pmYes, I comprehende that you were just making it up when you said Starmer was insisting that everyone that is vocally opposed to illegal immigration is a far right thug.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 3:37 pm
The fact that if you were walking along the street in UK that you would have your face identified next to the likes of someone (a friend) that attended a protest is where U ALSO will be listed\branded\attributed upon a NATIONAL + GLOBAL database of WHO and WHAT you are affiliated with..
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ers-mettle
The tactical response that emerged from the Downing Street summit will involve more intelligence sharing between forces and wider use of facial recognition technology.
..comprehende?
If those vandalous morons are average British people, then illegal immigration is the least of our worries.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:41 pmBut these are not activities of "extreme far-right wing" - this is average British people sick of machetes and crime from 1st\2nd generation AND more illegal immigrants.Harbal wrote:Do the security services not already have intelligence sharing between forces and use of facial recognition technology in regard to terrorism? I certainly hope they do. I am more than happy to know that they intend to also use these measures to combat extreme right wing activities.
Don't insult my intelligence, fishy.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:41 pmYou do understand that "RADICAL MUSLIMS" are the ones that don't adhere to their commandments right?Harbal wrote:No, I don't want radical Muslims in the country, but neither do I want right wing (or any other wing) hooligans rampaging on the streets. Unlike you, I have to live here.
These commandments:-
“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone” (Quran 2:191-193).
“Strike off their heads and strike from them every fingertip” (Quran 8:12).
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The problem with the average non paying attention to what is going on - person - such as U Harbal - is that you are like many others around the traps here...its red no its blue. Its black no its white.
THOSE British people that are violently stupidly at times protesting are doing so because they have been paying far greater attention than you Harbal as to WHY you and they KNOW the illegal immigration --- INVASION --- needs to stop - they are just a LOT more pissed off right now and they know - nobody in WESTMINSTER is going to listen until they come close to what kicked off in LEEDS two weeks ago - when a bunch of > 90% Muslims torched a police car and a double decker bus AND the police allowed them to do it - they LITERALLY RAN away.
So.
Yes - they want WESTMINSTER ELITES to listen ----? --->> HOW Harbal? How will they get Queer Starmer - the least in touch politician EVER to comprehend their plight?
Your chance Harbal - wot do they do - send Queer Starmer a very nasty letter in the post signed by the working-class of BRITAIN?
C'mon Harbal - wot?
THOSE British people that are violently stupidly at times protesting are doing so because they have been paying far greater attention than you Harbal as to WHY you and they KNOW the illegal immigration --- INVASION --- needs to stop - they are just a LOT more pissed off right now and they know - nobody in WESTMINSTER is going to listen until they come close to what kicked off in LEEDS two weeks ago - when a bunch of > 90% Muslims torched a police car and a double decker bus AND the police allowed them to do it - they LITERALLY RAN away.
So.
Yes - they want WESTMINSTER ELITES to listen ----? --->> HOW Harbal? How will they get Queer Starmer - the least in touch politician EVER to comprehend their plight?
Your chance Harbal - wot do they do - send Queer Starmer a very nasty letter in the post signed by the working-class of BRITAIN?
C'mon Harbal - wot?
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What "misinformation" - I am simply attempting to answer Y some of the working-class British feel the need to cause issues and protest while FAR MORE have the same angst but are sitting on their couch feeling helpless.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:27 pmThis atto guy is the single most prolific spreader of misinformation on any philosophy forum I've ever been a part of. He's so incessantly - and deliberately, I believe - dishonest it's ridiculous.
What misinformation? The LEEDS Muslim Riot:--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q3mXFOSA4Y
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So far the information on the top of my head is:attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:33 pmWhat "misinformation" - I am simply attempting to answer Y some of the working-class British feel the need to cause issues and protest while FAR MORE have the same angst but are sitting on their couch feeling helpless.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:27 pmThis atto guy is the single most prolific spreader of misinformation on any philosophy forum I've ever been a part of. He's so incessantly - and deliberately, I believe - dishonest it's ridiculous.
What misinformation? The LEEDS Muslim Riot:--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q3mXFOSA4Y
girls stabber is muslim, you're not going to gaslight me that you've never said that in this forum.
Starmer said the thing you claimed he said - nope, he didn't, you don't have a quote of him saying that and you refuse to acknowledge that.
You're just making shit up constantly, and never once saying "whoops sorry I think I was wrong on that one, my bad, maybe that isn't true / maybe he didn't say that."
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Straight away that is a LIE - I have NEVER stated that the man that slaughtered three young girls is a Muslim - U R A LIAR.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:49 pmSo far the information on the top of my head is:attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:33 pmWhat "misinformation" - I am simply attempting to answer Y some of the working-class British feel the need to cause issues and protest while FAR MORE have the same angst but are sitting on their couch feeling helpless.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:27 pm
This atto guy is the single most prolific spreader of misinformation on any philosophy forum I've ever been a part of. He's so incessantly - and deliberately, I believe - dishonest it's ridiculous.
What misinformation? The LEEDS Muslim Riot:--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q3mXFOSA4Y
girls stabber is muslim, you're not going to gaslight me that you've never said that in this forum.
I stated Starmer called the rioters "FAR-RIGHT THUGS" - correct - he stated "THUGS" - but I am certain I could track him somewhere positioning it as "FAR RIGHT" ---FFS Jesus - u are doopid.Flannel Jesus wrote:Starmer said the thing you claimed he said - nope, he didn't, you don't have a quote of him saying that and you refuse to acknowledge that.
Oh I don't need to be sorry about anything - please though - rather than just stating BLATANT lies about me - please, if you are going to continue to state I have MORE MISINFORMATION that ANYONE you have seen on a "philosophy forum"Flannel Jesus wrote:You're just making shit up constantly, and never once saying "whoops sorry I think I was wrong on that one, my bad, maybe that isn't true / maybe he didn't say that."
WELL??
WOT U ACTUALLY GOT RATHER THAN LIES?
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You practically called the dude Arab Joe Al-ArabFace you cheeky fuck.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:56 pmStraight away that is a LIE - I have NEVER stated that the man that slaughtered three young girls is a Muslim - U R A LIAR.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:49 pm girls stabber is muslim, you're not going to gaslight me that you've never said that in this forum.
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...o how the lies they (LEFT) wish for continue. 
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Your gaslighting seems not to be working on anybody at all.
You should consider just becoming a truthful person, it saves so much effort.
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You are moving the goal posts now. You said:attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:56 pmStraight away that is a LIE - I have NEVER stated that the man that slaughtered three young girls is a Muslim - U R A LIAR.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:49 pmSo far the information on the top of my head is:attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:33 pm
What "misinformation" - I am simply attempting to answer Y some of the working-class British feel the need to cause issues and protest while FAR MORE have the same angst but are sitting on their couch feeling helpless.
What misinformation? The LEEDS Muslim Riot:--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q3mXFOSA4Y
girls stabber is muslim, you're not going to gaslight me that you've never said that in this forum.
I stated Starmer called the rioters "FAR-RIGHT THUGS" - correct - he stated "THUGS" - but I am certain I could track him somewhere positioning it as "FAR RIGHT" ---FFS Jesus - u are doopid.Flannel Jesus wrote:Starmer said the thing you claimed he said - nope, he didn't, you don't have a quote of him saying that and you refuse to acknowledge that.
Oh I don't need to be sorry about anything - please though - rather than just stating BLATANT lies about me - please, if you are going to continue to state I have MORE MISINFORMATION that ANYONE you have seen on a "philosophy forum"Flannel Jesus wrote:You're just making shit up constantly, and never once saying "whoops sorry I think I was wrong on that one, my bad, maybe that isn't true / maybe he didn't say that."
WELL??
WOT U ACTUALLY GOT RATHER THAN LIES?
The disgusting Queer wants facial recognition implemented and insists everyone that is vocally opposed to illegal immigration are "FAR-RIGHT" --- "THUGS"
Now you've moved the goal posts to
Starmer called the rioters "FAR-RIGHT THUGS"
You're being dishonest even in your attempt to defend your honesty. You're terrible.
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What a stupid thing to say, fishy. The only reason we are arguing is because you see things in black and white, while I refuse to.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:10 pm The problem with the average non paying attention to what is going on - person - such as U Harbal - is that you are like many others around the traps here...its red no its blue. Its black no its white.
Those "British people" are probably busy being football hooligans when they have no other excuse to smash things up. Ordinary, normal people don't behave like that, no matter how angry they are about something.THOSE British people that are violently stupidly at times protesting are doing so because they have been paying far greater attention than you Harbal as to WHY you and they KNOW the illegal immigration --- INVASION --- needs to stop -
And I am against illegal immigration as much as anybody; in fact, I think there should be far tighter restrictions on legal immigration. There are far too many people from incompatible cultures to ours living in the country. The fact that it has been allowed to happen is sheer stupidity. But is that not bad enough, without adding violence and destruction on our streets to our troubles?
I don't like Kier Starmer; I never have, but your calling him Queer Starmer is just a demonstration of the moronic mentality I am talking about. Great, let's just whip each other up into a frenzy and go round smashing things up, that'll fix it. Governments typically respond to extreme situations by imposing restrictions that make life worse for everybody. Not that that will affect you; you don't even fucking live here. You have decided to demonstrate your love of country by moving as far away from it as possible, so the rest of your logic concerning this matter should hardly come as a surprise to anybody.Yes - they want WESTMINSTER ELITES to listen ----? --->> HOW Harbal? How will they get Queer Starmer - the least in touch politician EVER to comprehend their plight?
Your chance Harbal - wot do they do - send Queer Starmer a very nasty letter in the post signed by the working-class of BRITAIN?
C'mon Harbal - wot?