Going 50/50

[godelian]

Oh, right... you don't know how to create any value/wealth.

What difference does it make? Wealth is wealth.

[godelian]

Oh, right... you don't know how to create any value/wealth.

What difference does it make? Wealth is wealth.

[Skepdick]

Oh, right... you don't know how to create any value/wealth.

What difference does it make? Wealth is wealth.

The difference is you can neither double your wealth, nor amass it again.

Your "strategy" was luck, not wealth-creation.

If somebody stole your bitcoins you'll never be wealthy again.

It's probably why you worship Bitcoins

[godelian]

Oh, right... you don't know how to create any value/wealth.

What difference does it make? Wealth is wealth.

The difference is you can neither double your wealth, nor amass it again.

Your "strategy" was luck, not wealth-creation.

If somebody stole your bitcoins you'll never be wealthy again.

It's probably why you worship Bitcoins

Possibly. I am not even trying, actually.

[Skepdick]

Possibly. I am not even trying, actually.

So your "wealth" isn't self-regenerating.

Weird... some people would consider that a defining property.

If somebody empties out my bank accounts - I've lost a few weeks of revenue. Is all.

[godelian]

So your "wealth" isn't self-regenerating.

No, not needed.

It would require me to organize something more elaborate than merely "hodling". I've been hodling for 7 years now. I don't even have passive income.

I may one day become economically active again, but at the moment I am not interested.. I've got other interesting things to keep me busy.

If somebody empties out my bank accounts - I've lost a few weeks of revenue. Is all.

In theory, all assets can be lost, stolen, or confiscated. In practice, it is possible however to bring down the probability somewhat that this would happen.

[Skepdick]

So your "wealth" isn't self-regenerating.

No, not needed.

It would require me to organize something more elaborate than merely "hodling". I've been hodling for 7 years now. I don't even have passive income.

I may one day become economically active again, but at the moment I am not interested.. I've got other interesting things to keep me busy.

Precisely my point.

Please show me one wealthy person whose indefinite strategy for financial freedom is to hold money...

In theory, all assets can be lost, stolen, or confiscated. In practice, it is possible however to bring down the probability somewhat that this would happen.

Yeah. In theory. But in practice some assets are way more antigragile...

[bahman]

I just saw this video where a woman is complaining about men wanting to go 50/50.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdC-pSq2gCo

Modern Woman Gets FURIOUS Because Men Don't Pay Anymore

In my opinion, many men are naturally inclined to pay for a woman's expenses.

However, if a man routinely does that, the western feminist government will demand that the man keeps paying, no matter how badly the woman misbehaves. It becomes an unconditional obligation. No man wants that. Motivated by your biological inclination to provide, as a man you are unwittingly developing a very dangerous habit. It is a trap. It is a scam. It is an ambush, really. Seriously, down that path lies madness.

Nowadays, I live in SE Asia. There is no feminist government disturbing my private life over here. So, I have no problem to liberally and generously provide. Asian women also have the expectation that the man will provide, and I consider that to be the most normal thing in the world. In the West, however, I would absolutely never do that. I am perfectly willing to provide for an Asian woman but not for a western one.

What if an Asian man abuses power? What a woman can do in such a situation when she is financially dependent on her husband?

[godelian]

What if an Asian man abuses power? What a woman can do in such a situation when she is financially dependent on her husband?

Humanity has been around for an estimated 300 000 years. There have always potentially been problems in the relationship between husband and wife. This can simply never be excluded.

The idea that the government would interfere, however, is less than a century old. What we can see again, is that there is no problem in the world that the government won't make worse.

The result is that marriage, cohabitation, and raising children together, has become pretty much impossible in the West nowadays.

The government did not solve the original problem. On the contrary, they have only succeeded in making the problem unsolvable.

The West has effectively stopped reproducing from generation to generation, thereby creating a problem that is several orders of magnitude worse than the original one.

[bahman]

What if an Asian man abuses power? What a woman can do in such a situation when she is financially dependent on her husband?

Humanity has been around for an estimated 300 000 years.

And they are not still wise enough.

There have always potentially been problems in the relationship between husband and wife. This can simply never be excluded.

Glad to see that you admit.

The idea that the government would interfere, however, is less than a century old. What we can see again, is that there is no problem in the world that the government won't make worse.

I don't think so.

The result is that marriage, cohabitation, and raising children together, has become pretty much impossible in the West nowadays.

The government did not solve the original problem. On the contrary, they have only succeeded in making the problem unsolvable.

The West has effectively stopped reproducing from generation to generation, thereby creating a problem that is several orders of magnitude worse than the original one.

I simply disagree.

[godelian]

I simply disagree.

Yes, but in the end, it is still men who choose to commit or not.

I do not even agree to attend wedding parties in the West.

The man is preparing the ground for him to get ripped off with alimony, child support, and losing half his assets. What is there actually to celebrate except for his stupidity? Let him celebrate by himself because I am certainly not showing up for that.

[bahman]

I simply disagree.

Yes, but in the end, it is still men who choose to commit or not.

So that has to be changed.

[godelian]

I simply disagree.

Yes, but in the end, it is still men who choose to commit or not.

So that has to be changed.

There has never been an obligation to commit and there will never be.

If you want someone else to do something for you, then you'd better figure out what you will do in exchange for them. If the deal does not look attractive enough to them, they won't do it.

Men have increasingly stopped offering marriage in the West because the deal no longer makes sense and is even considered financially hazardous. There is a growing consensus that a man needs to leave the West, if he still wants wife and children.

[godelian]

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